Luke 37106 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 All this talk about 6-button remote has me wondering... what about those that prefer remotes with many more buttons? Is it safe to assume we'll have the ability to make use of all those other buttons for direct access to functions? Those buttons are still supported, they're just not considered essential. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schimi 26 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Would it work if i press "T" on my mce remote the movie or tv-show "screen" would jump to the first item with t? How it works in emby for media center? That is the one thing why my wife still use emc.... ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37106 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Would it work if i press "T" on my mce remote the movie or tv-show "screen" would jump to the first item with t? How it works in emby for media center? That is the one thing why my wife still use emc.... ☺ Yes, I'm sure that will get done but right now we're starting with an on-screen jump list that makes it very fast to scroll through content and only requires directional input. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshaun 31 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yes, I'm sure that will get done but right now we're starting with an on-screen jump list that makes it very fast to scroll through content and only requires directional input. Nice. Though jump lists more tricky when sorted by rating or run time though. Just not have them in those cases? Or maybe 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 minutes and Low, Average, High, Very High (~ 6, 7, 8, 9) for ratings. Distribution for ratings hardly spread out... i.e. https://rulesofreason.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/figure1.png Same with run time: http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/runtime-histogram.jpg And if it's descending do you you reverse the order of the jump list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14926 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Nice. Though jump lists more tricky when sorted by rating or run time though. Just not have them in those cases? Or maybe 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 minutes and Low, Average, High, Very High (~ 6, 7, 8, 9) for ratings. Distribution for ratings hardly spread out... i.e. https://rulesofreason.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/figure1.png Same with run time: http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/runtime-histogram.jpg And if it's descending do you you reverse the order of the jump list? Yes the logic needs to understand context, but none of those issues are unique to the on-screen jump list. They are there with the method requested as well. EMC does adjust its on-screen jump list (did you even know it was there?) in many of these scenarios. ET can do the same as it develops. At first, it just may only be there when sorted alphabetically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianW 1053 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 EMC does adjust its on-screen jump list (did you even know it was there?) in many of these scenarios. I knew it was there (isn't it mapped to green or blue?) - but it never gets used in our house. I tend to use the triple-tap alpha input to jump to the correct letter, or just page up / page down to jump larger distances. I hope ET at least adds the page up/page down big jumps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshaun 31 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Yes the logic needs to understand context, but none of those issues are unique to the on-screen jump list. They are there with the method requested as well. EMC does adjust its on-screen jump list (did you even know it was there?) in many of these scenarios. ET can do the same as it develops. At first, it just may only be there when sorted alphabetically. Sorry no, too long ago, and only tried EMC for a very short period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skwerl 1 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hi, guys. I sure hate to do be the asshole to bother you about release dates, but I wanted to see if you are gunning for a release before Christmas. I'm wanting to build an HTPC for my father as a gift, but I have reservations about putting the current MBT on it, as it's a big pain in the ass ( for anyone but me) to operate with a mouse from the couch due to the turbo scrolling speed. I've learned from the past that if it's not easy to use the first time, they won't even try to work with it. And I won't be flying back home until summer, so it will be months before I'd be able to upgrade and "retrain." Thanks so much for your patience. Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifespeed 42 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Skwerl, on 01 Dec 2015 - 11:07 AM, said:Skwerl, on 01 Dec 2015 - 11:07 AM, said: Hi, guys. I sure hate to do be the asshole to bother you about release dates, but I wanted to see if you are gunning for a release before Christmas. I'm wanting to build an HTPC for my father as a gift, but I have reservations about putting the current MBT on it, as it's a big pain in the ass ( for anyone but me) to operate with a mouse from the couch due to the turbo scrolling speed. I've learned from the past that if it's not easy to use the first time, they won't even try to work with it. And I won't be flying back home until summer, so it will be months before I'd be able to upgrade and "retrain." Thanks so much for your patience. Josh Just as a general principle when it comes to new products and (especially) software; if the time frame is close you should plan on it not being available in a usable state. I think you are much more likely to succeed in the summer. Edited December 1, 2015 by lifespeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z0mbi 76 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 my .2c on horizontal vs vertical... why not both? I like how some media apps have creative categorization on the 'home' page, where the categories are horizontally arranged across multiple screens/pages/whatever you call it, yet the chosen content under each category is in a vertical column. Like "More from this director..." "More by this actor..." "recently released..." etc etc. I like how the NXOE incorporated verticality, as well. However, for flat out library viewing, a horizontal coverwall or poster view is much preferred to me. And on that note... I'm hoping the new ET will have a couple of viewing options in that regard as I use coverwall to pick a random video from my collection to watch as it allows you to look at many titles very quickly, but for my 'newly added' media I much prefer a Posterview type rolodex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Horizontal vs. Vertical display should be a component of the theme itself. Then people can always find the style they prefer or theme it themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37106 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Yea certainly, either is possible, we're just going through a number of debates about what we think is best by default. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardameus 220 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I've always find I prefer the horizontal. The old mediabrowser Lotus theme is a good example of a theme I really liked but I could never get into the vertical menu. (I think it was called lotus, one of soultaker's themes) There are still plenty of vertical menu themes in different programs that obviously people like both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigiTM 60 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yea certainly, either is possible, we're just going through a number of debates about what we think is best by default. Maybe Vertical as default. So many more apps these days are doing vertical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits 12 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I think vertical scrolling apps became popular with phones due to the screen being portrait by default. Using a TV or a tablet where the screen is landscape it seems horizontal is more friendly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordy 284 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I think vertical scrolling apps became popular with phones due to the screen being portrait by default. Using a TV or a tablet where the screen is landscape it seems horizontal is more friendly. True that. But if you're a mouse user like me the the scroll wheel comes in very handy. I think a theme with choices in scroll direction will be a winner with everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsnake8 27 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Is the Theater Beta anticipated to be released this year? 63 days left and I am sure family time and vacations for the holidays will subtract from available time. yes, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reluctantflux 38 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I feel vertical scrolling is better because moving down one line displays more new content than scrolling horizontally one line. Just food for thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclausen 41 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 After further contemplation, I now agree that having vertical scrolling by default makes sense, Let's just all agree on that ok? so that we can get the public beta released sooner rather than later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byngo 6 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 All I know is that I keep getting emails saying this and that have been updated especially emby server for various platforms but I'm still longing for an email that says the update to MBT is here. Think I might give up and switch to Kodi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37106 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For the initial release the home screen you saw in the blog teaser will probably remain, because i don't want to create any uncessary delays. a vertical redesign is something we started discussing though and it might happen later. When I say vertical redesign, I'm just talking the home screen, it doesn't mean the entire app is one way or the other. There are already screens that are vertical when appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tman 47 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Ok, I think we can all agree to disagree here. Horizontal media navigation is more familiar, and makes better use of widescreen displays. Vertical scrolling is more modern, and probably shows more media on screen at once, but as Luke has pointed out, this type of discussion will only slow the release down. I think nowadays it should be user choice, so an option for either would be welcome in the setup - themes might be able to take things a step further. It's been two months since the teaser announcement, and we're all still waiting. Let's hope they can get something out for the xmas holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 After further contemplation, I now agree that having vertical scrolling by default makes sense, Let's just all agree on that ok? so that we can get the public beta released sooner rather than later. Never, no way, no how. I mean they might do it, but I'm not agreeing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTiceman 1 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Looking forward to testing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_ray 19 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Looking forward to testing this Me too! Let's get it on!!! I really want this to work on XBone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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