The new update just broke my music library!

[513 3]

@Lukeit just looks like this 

the old one was prefect in the way it show stuff that. I get that is more accurate in showing the files. that's why I'm asking if its possible to make it into its own tab.

   

[pwhodges 1743]

The present state is a considerable improvement over the earlier beta version, I can assure you (having come from the same position myself).

I get why they can't just slot the old album view back into the folder view (the old folder view wasn't one really).  I am hoping that they will continue adding back more information - maybe giving us a list of options to display for each track (it would revolutionise my usage if they would enable me to show the composer tag, for instance).  In the end they could build (or let us build) something approaching the old album view, but based simply on the tracks in the folder.

Also, at present you can only play all, shuffle or play a single track - unless you build a playlist.  I would love it if they would have an option to play from any selected track to the end (as the album view did), or to multi-select tracks and make them a playlist.  That would enable me to listen to a single string quartet on a disk with several, for instance.

In the end, the more of us who continue saying these things, the more incentive they have to indulge us...

Paul

[Luke 38823]

Here's an idea that will give you what you want in exchange for a small amount of manual work.

Add albums to collections by using the 3-dot menu -> Add to Collection.

Then you can go into your album list and use the 3-dot menu to "group items into collections". This will allow you to preserve a one-level hierarchy, and when you click onto the album, you get to see the full album metadata.

Music libraries currently do not have a Collections tab, but we could also add this into a 4.6.1 maintenance release.

[pwhodges 1743]

The reason I don't even try to use any views other than the folder view is because the hierarchy of the folders can be as deep as I wish - for instance: "Composers\Bartók\Chamber\String Quartets\Selected\1998 New York Trombone Quartet" (yes, I have Bartók's 4th String Quartet played on trombones - it works surprisingly well, even the pizzicato movement). 

Maybe your suggestion would help someone else, but certainly not me unless I seriously misunderstood it.

Paul

[513 3]

@Luke @pwhodgesI can agree the folder view is just better in a way it's more organized and you know exactly where stuff is. That's why we keep bothering you about it. The old player was just better in that way. I think if y'all could make a separate tab just for that it would be great. And on that note one of the reasons why I don't use the album tab is because it makes alto of duplicate even tho there in the same album 

[Brendon 103]

5 hours ago, Luke said:

Apologies. Our musicbrainz server has been getting hit hard following the release, and we've had to scramble and upgrade it quickly. Try refreshing the metadata on some of these albums.

I have tried that several times @Lukeincluding again just now, the album details etc.. are fine it is simply not applying the folder.jpg, if i go to folder view emby is seeing the artwork just fine but for some reason not applying it in albums view, a coverart issue maybe?

[Luke 38823]

20 minutes ago, 513 said:

@Luke @pwhodgesI can agree the folder view is just better in a way it's more organized and you know exactly where stuff is. That's why we keep bothering you about it. The old player was just better in that way. I think if y'all could make a separate tab just for that it would be great. And on that note one of the reasons why I don't use the album tab is because it makes alto of duplicate even tho there in the same album 

The duplicates are due to the embedded information in your audio files which can easily be cleaned up with something like Picard.

[Carlo 4478]

Does the artwork you see match what is embedded in the album tracks?

[Luke 38823]

5 minutes ago, Brendon said:

I have tried that several times @Lukeincluding again just now, the album details etc.. are fine it is simply not applying the folder.jpg, if i go to folder view emby is seeing the artwork just fine but for some reason not applying it in albums view, a coverart issue maybe?

To use local artwork, see my responses here:

His questions are about audio books but it applies to music as well.

[pwhodges 1743]

23 minutes ago, Luke said:

The duplicates are due to the embedded information in your audio files which can easily be cleaned up with something like Picard.

Much of my library is not mainstream enough to be on MusicBrainz at all, not only my own recordings, but also hundreds of the commercial ones; many of these items have no metadata at all, and some only partial which I have added over the years.  The stuff which is on MusicBrainz is frequently tagged in weird and wonderful ways which are not consistent in style, and do not represent the way I view my library.  Picard is of no use to me whatsoever.

I don't mind that Emby can't make use of metadata to organise my library, because I can do that better myself; all I want in respect of display the library contents is the possibility to show with each track the metadata items I nominate (including, in particular, composer - which I use a lot), if they are present in the media concerned.

Paul

[Luke 38823]

11 minutes ago, pwhodges said:

Much of my library is not mainstream enough to be on MusicBrainz at all, not only my own recordings, but also hundreds of the commercial ones; many of these items have no metadata at all, and some only partial which I have added over the years.  The stuff which is on MusicBrainz is frequently tagged in weird and wonderful ways which are not consistent in style, and do not represent the way I view my library.  Picard is of no use to me whatsoever.

I don't mind that Emby can't make use of metadata to organise my library, because I can do that better myself; all I want in respect of display the library contents is the possibility to show with each track the metadata items I nominate (including, in particular, composer - which I use a lot), if they are present in the media concerned.

Paul

Yes I expect that we'll keep building up the folder views to allow more fields of information to be dipslayed.

[Brendon 103]

1 hour ago, Luke said:

To use local artwork, see my responses here:

His questions are about audio books but it applies to music as well.

I had actually tried this @Luke, problem is the setting doesn't stick, as soon as i exit music library options that setting returns to default.

[Luke 38823]

54 minutes ago, Brendon said:

I had actually tried this @Luke, problem is the setting doesn't stick, as soon as i exit music library options that setting returns to default.

It sticks, but it's just that if you change the setting and immediately click back into the settings dialog, you might not see it reflected. I'll look at that.

[Brendon 103]

10 minutes ago, Luke said:

It sticks, but it's just that if you change the setting and immediately click back into the settings dialog, you might not see it reflected. I'll look at that.

I just ran another test while at work @Luke, made a new library called Music TEST pointed it a folder that i created with a cple of albums in it, had the setting "Perfectly organised into artist\album folders, with tracks directly in the album folders." selected. Same result no album artwork is populated at all and if you click on the album it shows the background artist image as the album image as seen in the previous screen shots i posted.


My file structure is;

\\HAF-X-SLAVE\Music Archive #1\Albums by Artist\Artist Name\Album Year - Album Title\Track#. Track Title

It was perfect like that until the update, everything else came back normal as you said it would after the scan it just does not want to acknowledge the folder.jpg

[denz 450]

So I fixed it by having Album Artist the same even though this compilation. To me this is illogical you have an Album tab but it is not grouping it as an Album even though there is clearly an Album tag in the file. 

[Luke 38823]

23 minutes ago, denz said:

So I fixed it by having Album Artist the same even though this compilation. To me this is illogical you have an Album tab but it is not grouping it as an Album even though there is clearly an Album tag in the file. 

Album name alone is not enough. You could have albums of the same name from two different album artists. that's why the album artist tag is needed.

[Brendon 103]

@Luke @cayars, ok after attempting another experiment all my cover art suddenly kicked in mate, i wanted to see if it would read embedded art so went to the first artist in the library and put the art into the tags on those 4 albums alone, suddenly another library scan kicked in and every single album had its art populated. I removed the embedded art from the 4 albums i tested with and everything is all good artwork is showing as it should. I do have a few multidisc albums that have suddenly split apart although at a glance they appear to be minor tag discrepancies between discs so manual corrections are needed.

I have no explanation as to why an artwork tag edit on 4 lone albums suddenly kicked everything into gear though and fixed 2500 albums.

[Carlo 4478]

Likely because you embedded the artwork which it read.

This is actually what you really want to do. If all information is embedded in the tracks then Emby will read an use it.  If you ever needed to reload or recreate a library you would know Emby is going to read that info again regardless of folder layout as it's embedded.

[letterman 40]

On 5/20/2021 at 8:07 PM, 513 said:

@Luke well i belive that the old folder browsing was better in the way it show all of its content in a neat way  

mow it just looks like this 

i get that is hard to develop such complicated programs but i wish it was possible to use the old folder viewer or just make a separated tab for it 

My wish is exactly your wish. We have written a lot about this problem in the beta phase and collected good ideas. Luke & the whole emby-team definitly know about it. Lots of users have the same problem now. I hope that this problem will be solved in the short term. I also can't work with the new folder-view structure. I have hundreds of folder-based collections and the navigation is horrible currently.

 

 

[BillybobBilly 15]

Jumping in here to say that I too am experiencing issues with the new update. Many of my albums are split like other users posted in this thread. I have done a full library scan.

I will try again but generally this update is a pretty big mess...

[Siutsch 9]

I'm also not really satisfied with the new plot of audio files.

For example, I have a library "Sampler".
Here are among others folders with songs organized by myself.
These were previously displayed in this library also as a single object incl. the folder.jpg file within this folder.

Now the songs are displayed individually and when I open this, then the complete associated album with all tracks is automatically displayed, which comes from another library (FullAlbum).
I don't want Emby to automatically orphan the other libraries here, I want e.g. a sampler folder to still appear as a single (self compiled) album.
This is only possible with the folder view.

Couldn't you e.g. choose the folder view as default for single libraries and set this automatically for all users? That would already help.
It would also be nice if you could adjust the display in the home screen, e.g. also use the folder view here, this is currently not selectable at all, I think.

Or is there another trick that I just don't see at the moment?

Thank you,
Siusch.

[Carlo 4478]

The "trick" is to control what you see in Emby by editing the tags in the albums you have.  Emby is going to build it's albums and artists views based on your tags.
This puts you squarely in control.

It can make compilation and singles a bit tricky depending on how you want them displayed but is an easy tag edit to get them to display the way you want.

[Siutsch 9]

Is it enough to give the folder a tag in the folder view, or do I have to give every single track a (tag this folder tag) as well?

That would then hardly be feasible.

Update:

I once tagged the folder of a sampler in the folder view.

Now a new menu item "Tag" appears in the overall view of the library with this new tag.

But I don't understand yet, where the difference should be to select this folder via the folder view.

After creating a tag for a folder, does this Sampler-Folder (with it's songs inside) appear in the home menu as one entry again, like an album (then also with the correct image of the folder.jpg file)?

Edited May 22, 2021 by Siutsch

[Deathsquirrel 743]

4 hours ago, BillybobBilly said:

Jumping in here to say that I too am experiencing issues with the new update. Many of my albums are split like other users posted in this thread. I have done a full library scan.

I will try again but generally this update is a pretty big mess...

I had the same issue and, in my case, it was consistently caused by bad tagging.  The most common issue was different musicbrainz album IDs on different tracks in the same album.  I exported an album report to excel, highlighted duplicates, popped those open in MP3tag, and updated the Album and MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMID tags to be consistent on my problem albums.  One library scan later and all is well.

[Deathsquirrel 743]

1 hour ago, Siutsch said:

Is it enough to give the folder a tag in the folder view, or do I have to give every single track a (tag this folder tag) as well?

That would then hardly be feasible.

Update:

I once tagged the folder of a sampler in the folder view.

Now a new menu item "Tag" appears in the overall view of the library with this new tag.

But I don't understand yet, where the difference should be to select this folder via the folder view.

After creating a tag for a folder, does this Sampler-Folder (with it's songs inside) appear in the home menu as one entry again, like an album (then also with the correct image of the folder.jpg file)?

The tags they're talking about aren't Emby tags.  They're referring to IDV3 tags, and similar functions for files other than MP3s.  These can all easily be edited using MP3tag.  My recommendation is to have Musicbrainz Picard ID all your albums, assuming they all exist there, and then do cleanup in MP3tag.