The new update just broke my music library!

[Mixeur 0]

One NOK Track : 

Input #0, mp3, from 'V:\Albums\NRJ Back to School 2021\0101 - Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits.mp3':
  Metadata:
    album_artist    : Various Artists
    track           : 1
    title           : Bad Habits
    artist          : Ed Sheeran
    album           : Nrj Back To School 2021
    comment         :
    genre           : Pop
    copyright       : An Asylum Records Uk Release, A Division Of Atlantic Records Uk, ┬® 2021 Warner Music Uk Limited
    composer        : Ed Sheeran/Fred Gibson/Johnny Mcdaid
    publisher       : Atlantic Records Uk
    disc            : 1
    TSRC            : GBAHS2100318
    ALBUM ARTIST    : ED SHEERAN
    BARCODE         : 190296614316
    ITUNESADVISORY  : 0
    LENGTH          : 231
    date            : 2021
  Duration: 00:03:51.08, start: 0.025056, bitrate: 322 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 320 kb/s, Start-Time 0.025s
    Metadata:
      encoder         : LAME3.99r
    Stream #0:1: Video: mjpeg (Baseline), yuvj420p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 590x600 [SAR 96:96 DAR 59:60], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc, Start-Time 0.025s (attached pic)
    Metadata:
      comment         : Cover (front)

ffprobe and Emby are consistent. But where is coming this Album Artist Tag with ED SHEERAN in it !!??

I can see it nowhere !

Edited August 5, 2021 by Mixeur

[Mixeur 0]

Wait... There are 2 Album Artist tags : "Album Artist" and "ALBUM ARTIST" ! Album Artist is conform to what I see everywhere. Issue is on ALBUM ARTIST which seems to be used by Emby.

ALBUM ARTIST is ID3V1 tag ? or something else very new I cant access with my old tag software ?

Edited August 5, 2021 by Mixeur

[Happy2Play 9140]

3 minutes ago, Mixeur said:

One NOK Track : 

Input #0, mp3, from 'V:\Albums\NRJ Back to School 2021\0101 - Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits.mp3':
  Metadata:
    album_artist    : Various Artists
    track           : 1
    title           : Bad Habits
    artist          : Ed Sheeran
    album           : Nrj Back To School 2021
    comment         :
    genre           : Pop
    copyright       : An Asylum Records Uk Release, A Division Of Atlantic Records Uk, ┬® 2021 Warner Music Uk Limited
    composer        : Ed Sheeran/Fred Gibson/Johnny Mcdaid
    publisher       : Atlantic Records Uk
    disc            : 1
    TSRC            : GBAHS2100318
    ALBUM ARTIST    : ED SHEERAN
    BARCODE         : 190296614316
    ITUNESADVISORY  : 0
    LENGTH          : 231
    date            : 2021
  Duration: 00:03:51.08, start: 0.025056, bitrate: 322 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 320 kb/s, Start-Time 0.025s
    Metadata:
      encoder         : LAME3.99r
    Stream #0:1: Video: mjpeg (Baseline), yuvj420p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 590x600 [SAR 96:96 DAR 59:60], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc, Start-Time 0.025s (attached pic)
    Metadata:
      comment         : Cover (front)

ffprobe and Emby are consistent. But where is coming this Album Artist Tag with ED SHEERAN in it !!??

I can see it nowhere !

All I can say would be clearing existing tags and retagging the item, unless there is a program that covers all different variable fields.  I honest don't know how all the different tags are written or the priority of same name tags.

Album Artist

Album_Artist

AlbumArtist

@Lukewhat is the tag priority when these tags are actually mismatched in this case?

[Mixeur 0]

Anyway, Emby seems to use ALBUM ARTIST and I don't think that this is correct to my experience with all other software. It should use "Album Artist" tag.

And I think that this is the reason of other people's issue,  complaining of same problem and claiming that their tags are correct.

Edited August 5, 2021 by Mixeur

[Carlo 4478]

Does it perhaps use the newest ID3V tag perhaps.  IE ID3V1 over ID3V1?

[Happy2Play 9140]

1 minute ago, Mixeur said:

Anyway, Emby seems to use ALBUM ARTIST and I don't think that this is correct to my experience with all other software. It should use "Album Artist" tag

I could be wrong but don't believe the case has anything to do with this.  As yours is Album_Artist vs Album Artist.

[Happy2Play 9140]

1 minute ago, cayars said:

Does it perhaps use the newest ID3V tag perhaps.  IE ID3V1 over ID3V1?

That is all I can think of and the only way to correct would clearing tags and retagging that I know of.

[Mixeur 0]

5 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

I could be wrong but don't believe the case has anything to do with this.  As yours is Album_Artist vs Album Artist.

Yes, I should have written Album_Artist in my previous message. Same logic anyway.

[Mixeur 0]

Last confirmation with ffprobe : OK Albums have no "ALBUM ARTIST" tags

 

Input #0, mp3, from 'V:\Albums\NRJ Smash Hits 2020\0101 - Angèle - Oui ou non.mp3':
  Metadata:
    album_artist    : Artistes divers
    album           : NRJ Smash Hits 2020
    artist          : Angèle
    genre           : Pop
    title           : Oui ou non
    track           : 01
    comment         :
    disc            : 1
    date            : 2020
  Duration: 00:03:16.83, start: 0.025056, bitrate: 323 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 320 kb/s, Start-Time 0.025s
    Metadata:
      encoder         : Lavc57.24
    Stream #0:1: Video: mjpeg (Baseline), yuvj420p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 500x500 [SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc, Start-Time 0.025s (attached pic)
    Metadata:
      comment         : Cover (front)

 

[Happy2Play 9140]

Just now, Mixeur said:

Yes, I should have written Album_Artist in my previous message. Same logic anyway.

Only @Lukecan say the priority logic used when there are multiple variable of the same tag, and in your case different values in these fields.

[Happy2Play 9140]

1 minute ago, Mixeur said:

Input #0, mp3, from 'V:\Albums\NRJ Smash Hits 2020\0101 - Angèle - Oui ou non.mp3':

Metadata:

album_artist : Artistes divers

album : NRJ Smash Hits 2020

And what does Emby show for this item?

Emby show group all tracks with this exact info.  As it groups by same name Album Artist/Album.

[Mixeur 0]

13 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

And what does Emby show for this item?

Emby show group all tracks with this exact info.  As it groups by same name Album Artist/Album.

Emby is grouping all track into one album. It was the OK example used in firsts screenshots.

Let's wait for Luke's answer but I'm pretty sure that the ALBUM ARTIST is not genuine. Looks like an ITUNE trick.

I don't even know how to edit it, it is invisible to all my mp3 softwares... And I don't manage to clear it. When I try to clear all, all the 'capital letters Tags' are kept...

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Input #0, mp3, from 'V:\Albums\NRJ Back to School 2021\0101 - Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits - Copie.mp3':
  Metadata:
    copyright       : An Asylum Records Uk Release, A Division Of Atlantic Records Uk, ┬® 2021 Warner Music Uk Limited
    TSRC            : GBAHS2100318
    ALBUM ARTIST    : LBUM ARTIS
    BARCODE         : ARCODE
    ITUNESADVISORY  : T
    LENGTH          : ENG
    comment         :
  Duration: 00:03:51.08, start: 0.025056, bitrate: 322 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 320 kb/s, Start-Time 0.025s
    Metadata:
      encoder         : LAME3.99r
    Stream #0:1: Video: mjpeg (Baseline), yuvj420p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 590x600 [SAR 96:96 DAR 59:60], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc, Start-Time 0.025s (attached pic)
    Metadata:
      comment         : Cover (front)

You can see that cleraring all is making a mess in those tricky tags, like seen one some files in previous examples...

 

Anyway thank you guys for helping me to understand this issue.

Edited August 5, 2021 by Mixeur

[Happy2Play 9140]

6 minutes ago, Mixeur said:

Let's wait for Luke's answer but I'm pretty sure that the ALBUM ARTIST is not genuine. Looks like an ITUNE trick

Some discussion here as there are multiple variable depending on the tagging tool used.

AlbumArtist or Album Artist? Which tag does MB use? - General/Windows - Emby Community

But all of mine are Album_Artist tagged by mp3tag or Picard that I have checked looking for examples, but will keep looking.

[Happy2Play 9140]

 

9 minutes ago, Mixeur said:

Input #0, mp3, from 'V:\Albums\NRJ Back to School 2021\0101 - Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits - Copie.mp3':

  Metadata:
    copyright       : An Asylum Records Uk Release, A Division Of Atlantic Records Uk, ┬® 2021 Warner Music Uk Limited
    TSRC            : GBAHS2100318
    ALBUM ARTIST    : LBUM ARTIS

Could you post of pm this track for testing?

[Mixeur 0]

2 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

 

Could you post of pm this track for testing?

done

[Happy2Play 9140]

5 minutes ago, Mixeur said:

done

mp3tag shows the multiple AA tags and corrupt tags on copy

[Mixeur 0]

OK I will try that. Thank you very much.

But in my opinion Emby should behave like other softwares, especially those most widely diffused like windows explorer, windows media player, groove music (yes, like most people, I'm on windows...). Otherwise people (not me, now I have the solution), will continue to have problem and continue to complain.
I hope Luke want to/can fix it.

[Happy2Play 9140]

4 minutes ago, Mixeur said:

I hope Luke want to/can fix it.

But everyone uses different software and that software does not tag the same way.  So there will always have to be a priority order.

[Mixeur 0]

2 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

But everyone uses different software and that software does not tag the same way.  So there will always have to be a priority order.

Sure. But Emby cannot work a way that no other players do. Like using that ARTIST ALBUM tag which is ignored by Windows, which is quite a standard...

Actually it would be interesting to know what SW is using it. Maybe Itunes.

[Happy2Play 9140]

There is also a conflict of what the tag software actually shows.

mp3tag shows ALBUM ARTIST and ALBUMARTIST

picard shows Album Artist and ALBUM ARTIST

FFPROBE shows album_artist and ALBUM ARTIST

So "Various Artist" is shown as ALBUMARTIST, Album Artist, and album_artist in three different program supposedly showing the same field.

But all three show "Ed Sheeran" in ALBUM ARTIST.

So what is the true Album Artist field?   To me this is still subjective, if multiple same tags exist there is a tagging issue to me.  But I am just a user not the dev.

[pünktchen 1332]

45 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

So "Various Artist" is shown as ALBUMARTIST, Album Artist, and album_artist in three different program supposedly showing the same field.

The id3 tag values are not stored under those descriptive strings that you see in a tag editor. The values are stored under fields with a special id, for example TPE2 is used for "Band/Orchestra/Accompaniment", or better known as "album artist". It's up to the software to give that id a meaningful name. And unfortunately every software does it different.

[Luke 38823]

@Mixeur has this helped you resolve it?

[Mixeur 0]

Hi Luke,

My problem is solved, sure, thanks to Happy2play mostly, by erasing the unwanted tag. But I'm pretty sure that the tag priority in emby is wrong.

Common tag (TPE2) has less priority than that strange custom like tag (no idea where it was stored in the metadatas) that was used on some of my albums.

[Luke 38823]

Thanks for the feedback.

[513 3]

@Lukehow do I fix this ?