rbjtech 4265 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, ebr said: But that is really the main issue. Many backdrops will not look good when cropped this way. Agreed - but with this 'spotlight' function, the idea is the Admin is ultimately responsible for vetting the images. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14913 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 10:44 AM, rbjtech said: Agreed - but with this 'spotlight' function, the idea is the Admin is ultimately responsible for vetting the images. So that makes it cater to an extremely small user base willing to curate this kind of thing. We have to spend our time on things that "just work" without a bunch of extra requirements because most people simply will not do the work and then complain that it is "half assed" or looks bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4265 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ebr said: So that makes it cater to an extremely small user base willing to curate this kind of thing. We have to spend our time on things that "just work" without a bunch of extra requirements because most people simply will not do the work and then complain that it is "half assed" or looks bad. As explained above - the default could be to just use the 'banner.jpg/png' - assuming the user has chosen the option to include it - as by default it is not there. It may look like cr*p (due to a low res banner) but the user has a choice to replace it - it's just metadata at the end of the day. If the user chooses to manually curate or a plugin choses to automatically curate an alternative (lets call it 'spotlight.jpg') then we just need the feature to use that instead of banner.jpg This caters for both the users that don't want to curate and those that do - win win for everybody. Edited December 13, 2022 by rbjtech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 851 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Why do people keep insisting on promoting Emby features/designs that use artwork I don't have? These and backdrop-heavy designs are all well and good if you mostly have modern Hollywood blockbusters on your server, but mine is mostly obscure 1940s stuff, random silents, foreign movies, etc. Backdrops are usually just a random screengrab and banners don't exist at all. And for the love of God please put the side menu in the Android apps, I hate having to display the "my media" section and would much rather just get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaku 795 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, crusher11 said: Why do people keep insisting on promoting Emby features/designs that use artwork I don't have? These and backdrop-heavy designs are all well and good if you mostly have modern Hollywood blockbusters on your server, but mine is mostly obscure 1940s stuff, random silents, foreign movies, etc. Backdrops are usually just a random screengrab and banners don't exist at all. And for the love of God please put the side menu in the Android apps, I hate having to display the "my media" section and would much rather just get rid of it. It's possible that they are not you and have different multimedia libraries than you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 851 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, roaku said: It's possible that they are not you and have different multimedia libraries than you. Obviously? I literally said that. But any UI design needs to work for everyone, to the greatest extent possible. I don't understand your hostility to me providing input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaku 795 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, crusher11 said: Obviously? I literally said that. But any UI design needs to work for everyone, to the greatest extent possible. I don't understand your hostility to me providing input. You asked why people were requesting, sorry *insisting* on, something you weren't requesting. I provided a possible reason. Edited December 13, 2022 by roaku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, crusher11 said: Obviously? I literally said that. But any UI design needs to work for everyone, to the greatest extent possible. I don't understand your hostility to me providing input. Exactly, and for example, if you look at the Collection screen where you had feedback about the backdrop, you were right about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef 3745 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 3:04 PM, arrbee99 said: Ok, I'm not very good at resisting temptation, so time to bore you all, again - I really like the last one you showed here with the white frame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Luke said: Exactly, and for example, if you look at the Collection screen where you had feedback about the backdrop, you were right about that. No he wasn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, chef said: I really like the last one you showed here with the white frame. I live in hope it''l be an option to have it everywhere, but css has to do for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8282 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, crusher11 said: but mine is mostly obscure 1940s stuff, random silents, foreign movies, etc. Backdrops are usually just a random screengrab and banners don't exist at all. And for the love of God please put the side menu in the Android apps, I hate having to display the "my media" section and would much rather just get rid of it. And who is going to spotlight this media? But in the end, it is impossible to please or design for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 It would help if there was some kind of simple css like stuff for the apps as well, but I guess it just doesn't work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1560 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) Squint a bit and pretend this isn't (stripey) My Media but just normal but big images - so not as good but less problematic ? Edited December 13, 2022 by arrbee99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I would absolutely hate this being a standard addition to the clients. It's yet another thing I have to click past to browse my media. Options are always fine of course, even if they make zero sense to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsung2100 21 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Deathsquirrel said: I would absolutely hate this being a standard addition to the clients. It's yet another thing I have to click past to browse my media. Options are always fine of course, even if they make zero sense to me. Everyone has different taste, I love options and I want that banner that Luke is making for us, can't wait until he's done making it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 851 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 The thing is, Netflix and the like have these sorts of features to advertise what's on them, because they're trying to interest you in their service. Emby doesn't need to do that, because that's not what makes them their money and because it's all your own media anyway. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanbuff 840 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, crusher11 said: The thing is, Netflix and the like have these sorts of features to advertise what's on them, because they're trying to interest you in their service. Emby doesn't need to do that, because that's not what makes them their money and because it's all your own media anyway. Again, use cases are always different. You may be the only user watching your own content, but others are Admins who have friends and family as users that they'd often like to recommend content to. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeko 34 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 12:17 AM, Luke66689 said: I personally like the "superman" theme backdrop on my android phone, but it's completely missing on the android TV app. I think that's what he or she might wanted to say or at least that's what I am missing and thinking about. Please bring backdrops on Android-TV app! Please fix the backdrops on the iOS app! best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 851 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 7 hours ago, seanbuff said: Again, use cases are always different. You may be the only user watching your own content, but others are Admins who have friends and family as users that they'd often like to recommend content to. In which case they can just say that to them, directly. Or there are things like the top picks plugin. My personal method is to log in as the other user and just start favouriting things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4265 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 14 hours ago, Happy2Play said: And who is going to spotlight this media? But in the end, it is impossible to please or design for everyone. Not with a single design choice no - but give some flexibility/options and you'll please most. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglejim 351 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 14 hours ago, Happy2Play said: And who is going to spotlight this media? But in the end, it is impossible to please or design for everyone. Yea I agree, you can't please everyone. That's just the way it is. It must be optional, that's the first step. As to who will spotlight... maybe a Admin thing or it could be random (release date/recently added)? I still think the banner will be more plug n play option but as stated above in this thread there could be a meta option to upgrade the image. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4265 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Junglejim said: Yea I agree, you can't please everyone. That's just the way it is. It must be optional, that's the first step. As to who will spotlight... maybe a Admin thing or it could be random (release date/recently added)? I still think the banner will be more plug n play option but as stated above in this thread there could be a meta option to upgrade the image. The Top Picks plugin is a combination of manually picked items - that's how it started (from the 'Recommendations/Spotlight thread) but now also has some bells and whistles, recently added, Popular Items etc. Ultimately - IF this Plugin had the ability to a) display the images much larger (full width) and b) display it above 'My media' - then you can rename Top Picks and call it Spotlight - but they are essentially the same thing. KEEP IT SIMPLE - and then enhance it. We just need the ability to do the two items listed above - that's it... @chef Edited December 14, 2022 by rbjtech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsung2100 21 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 22 hours ago, seanbuff said: Again, use cases are always different. You may be the only user watching your own content, but others are Admins who have friends and family as users that they'd often like to recommend content to. Nicely said my friend, The banner at the top will make emby look fantastic, people are going to love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsung2100 21 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 @crusher11 Honestly my friend, how can you not like this ? This looks beautiful and will make emby sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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