JeremyFr79 228 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I was looking to do something interesting and different with my data servers (PCs). I have had proper servers in the past but they were very noisy and took up a lot of space. I have seen people use these open cases for liquid cooling but I wanted to build a file server. After about two months of contemplating I just decided to build one. The first one was the red one, it looked so cool to me that I decided to build two more and redo my whole office area (well, corner of the basement). I took a picture at an angle so you can see how the drives are mounted. There is 40TB in the red one and 30TB in the blue. I run Windows 10 Pro and use StableBit to manage the drives. I also run several VM's across the two.The Emby server is one of the VM's. All systems run Gen 4 i7’s, much of the guts I already had up and running in older full tower cases. The one on the left is my main PC used for light gaming and VPN for work. All the wiring, switches, and whatnot run into cabinets above the PC’s. The cable management is just acceptable and not “cable porn” worthy so I did not bother taking a picture of it. I will take some pics of my home theater and share soon. Enjoy. Looks like the same sound bar I have in my bedroom, love that thing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1legend 45 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Looks like the same sound bar I have in my bedroom, love that thing! Yea, I didn't even think of using a sound bar until I built everything and realized that I did not make room for standard speakers. It's a Vizio 2.1... listening to it right now and it sounds great! I'm glad that I went with it over standard PC speakers, I was going to get studio monitors and mount them on speaker arms but the sound is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Really, most videos are way less than 100Mbps, so why do you even need gigabit, let alone 10GigE? Because we don't want to wait and watch a file transfer. It is all what we prioritize. I'm slowly building my system infrastructure. With 4k becoming more prevalent, I'd like to be able to support as much of it's bandwidth, as I can. From what I read, fully uncompressed 4K exceeds even 10G. So I'm planning ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8356 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Especially if you look at the size of 4K media. 2160P 1 hour x264 episode 36.3GB or 2hr11m hevc movie 61.5GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Especially if you look at the size of 4K media. 2160P 1 hour x264 episode 36.3GB or 2hr11m hevc movie 61.5GB Yeah. Even with HEVC, it can eat 60 MB/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I'm slowly building my system infrastructure. With 4k becoming more prevalent, I'd like to be able to support as much of it's bandwidth, as I can. From what I read, fully uncompressed 4K exceeds even 10G. So I'm planning ahead. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Huh? Which part are you not clear, on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 "fully uncompressed 4K exceeds even 10G. "? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyFr79 228 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) "fully uncompressed 4K exceeds even 10G. "? He's right uncompressed 4k uses around 12Gbps of Bandwidth compared to 3Gps for 1080p/60FPS But that's RAW data which unless you work as a cinematographer you would never be dealing with at home. Edited January 2, 2017 by JeremyFr79 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 "fully uncompressed 4K exceeds even 10G. "? http://www.mellanox.com/blog/2014/04/4k-video-drives-new-demands/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's right uncompressed 4k uses around 12Gbps of Bandwidth compared to 3Gps for 1080p/60FPS But that's RAW data which unless you work as a cinematographer you would never be dealing with at home. I was trying to find out what the bandwidth would be 'on disc'. I can't seem to find that data. Everything I find, refers to streaming. Any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 OK, I found this. I need more power, Scottie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Ok i see what you are getting at now But you are never going to see / use raw streaming in the home and most everywhere else due to the demand of that way of viewing - i guess its used in high end theatre projection??? As for the home 1g ethernet for now, streaming the compressed file, will be good for a while yet - and when it isn't then 10g will be cheap and in the mainstream price bracket (1-2years?) The bitrate of the disc (bluray) is quite low but must be sufficient to play hd and uhd discs via dedicated players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1293 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 But you are never going to see / use raw streaming in the home and most everywhere else due to the demand of that way of viewing - i guess its used in high end theatre projection??? Even high end commercial theater projectors will only have a single gig Ethernet connection in use. Though they do usually come with two gig ports, I've only ever seen one in use. Most commercial projectors have on board hard drives so the movie plays from within the actual projector and not streamed to it. Here is a neat picture of one: https://az877327.vo.msecnd.net/~/media/Downloads/Pictures/2014/DP4K-60L%20low%20persp%20jpg.jpg?v=3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 ha i bet that costs a huge amount of mooooooooooooooooola something for @ to add to his ever growing list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Ok i see what you are getting at now But you are never going to see / use raw streaming in the home and most everywhere else due to the demand of that way of viewing - i guess its used in high end theatre projection??? As for the home 1g ethernet for now, streaming the compressed file, will be good for a while yet - and when it isn't then 10g will be cheap and in the mainstream price bracket (1-2years?) The bitrate of the disc (bluray) is quite low but must be sufficient to play hd and uhd discs via dedicated players Yeah, I know. I'm just looking for excuses to buy stuff Even high end commercial theater projectors will only have a single gig Ethernet connection in use. Though they do usually come with two gig ports, I've only ever seen one in use. Most commercial projectors have on board hard drives so the movie plays from within the actual projector and not streamed to it. Here is a neat picture of one: https://az877327.vo.msecnd.net/~/media/Downloads/Pictures/2014/DP4K-60L%20low%20persp%20jpg.jpg?v=3 I need that! I can't live without it. I'm dying, here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1293 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 LOL, check out this guys youtube page.... I got lost on here for hours once... He shows and explains how commercial projectors work, takes them apart all kinds of good stuff. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyq0AtnLFpLQCsq2TA4ROKg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I went to your link and totally got sidetracked, lol I think this video is apropos to this thread [YouTube] [/YouTube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyFr79 228 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The only time you'd ever see RAW data is coming directly off the sensor in the camera. At no point is RAW camera data ever used past that. It will always be "compressed" in one fashion or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 The only time you'd ever see RAW data is coming directly off the sensor in the camera. At no point is RAW camera data ever used past that. It will always be "compressed" in one fashion or another. But I like to pretend I'm going to have files that big, so I can lie to myself and justify buying a 10G switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I have seen a few posts on other forums that 2.5 and 5g are coming soon - no idea if they will be cheap etc but might be interesting still think if you are windows based a cheap 4 port 1g network card (~ £20 on ebay) in the server and client would be much cheaper than any 5g card and switch - using smb multipath - as no new switch or cards required - or put in two and get 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSattler 387 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I have seen a few posts on other forums that 2.5 and 5g are coming soon - no idea if they will be cheap etc but might be interesting still think if you are windows based a cheap 4 port 1g network card (~ £20 on ebay) in the server and client would be much cheaper than any 5g card and switch - using smb multipath - as no new switch or cards required - or put in two and get 8g MP SMB only does you any good if your Windows server is also your storage server, and if every one of your home clients is a Windows based HTPC. Personally, I've migrated to all Nvidia Shield's, and MiBox players to lower power consumption, and have overall less issues with the clients. In some sense your almost better bonding multiple 1Gbe interfaces, and while no client will be able to get more than 1Gbe of throughput, multiple clients will be balanced across all of your bonded connections. For instance I run the following setup: 2 x SG200-26 Switches Trunked 1 Emby Server with 5 x 1Gbe Bonded Interfaces 2 unRaid Servers with 5 x 1Gbe Bonded Interfaces It uses up a ton of ports, 15 in total, but hence why I've gone with 2 switches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Thats why i said ..if you are windows based... but i believe the newest/in dev samba 4.x is due to have MP functionality in the nearish future so the landscape may well move from windows only bonding/trunking is fine if you have multiple clients accessing at the same time other than also giving you some redundancy should a port fail - as you say there is no increase in speed which is why multipath (windows) is your only option other than an expensive 10g switch if you are looking for more bandwidth to a client pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 The next piece of the puzzle has arrived 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVTD 37 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) I got the same one, It has 2x Xeon E5-2650, 32 ECC ram and a few HDDs. The other servers beneith are backup and data servers, all powered by low power CPU, but with 1gb ram oer Tb HDD. Problem is here in Belgium power prices are too high, the entire build consumes about 200-300 watt idle, comes at about 40-60€/mo, but when a lot of users use it, you can add a few KW per week... PS: Love my pro-Ultra IKEA server rack reversed table build, this rack costed me 39.98€ screws and glue excluded. (The images are older then the video, I added the drive bays and a fan controller to remove all the freaking high plane fan noise, temps are the same at 40% fan speed, CPU is at about 40°, 65° at 100% use (Non-retard temperature Units) Edited January 8, 2017 by PVTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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