rbjtech 4312 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 yep - must have been a blip as GET responses are now error free. Very odd .. maybe they did some maintenance during the out of hours (US) peak time. It's good that it is back - it is definitely more accurate with TV series than the other providers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revengineer 127 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 11/15/2020 at 4:22 AM, cayars said: The worst case situation would be that each user would need to subscribe to the meta-data provider, if they want to continue using them, not unlike a VIP subscription to Open Subtitles. This is the way this should be implemented in emby. I strongly disagree with emby negotiating to include this in Emby Premiere as it would contribute to making the lifetime subscription unsustainable. I do not use these data and do not want to subsidize those who do. Those who want it should by their own subscriptions. Just my 2 cents... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mibok 119 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 It seems that trakt will switch to TMDB.https://blog.trakt.tv/tmdb-transition-ef3d19a5cf24 I personally prefer TMDB, is the only one that supports multiple versions for each language. And is not a small detail as almost every movie and various series have different names in Spain and Mexico (latin america). And when asked for this feature in thetvdb through their ticket system the answer with a "declined, there is no need for multiple versions of spanish". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dual-o 19 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I can't scrape the Series with tvdb. Got anyone the same Problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37178 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, dual-o said: I can't scrape the Series with tvdb. Got anyone the same Problem? Hi there, we're happy to help. Please see how to report a problem. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3324 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 11/15/2020 at 10:22 AM, cayars said: There is a lot of time before this will change and the team is aware of the situation at looking at ways to resolve this as well as other alternatives. Can't really comment more on this at this time. The worst case situation would be that each user would need to subscribe to the meta-data provider, if they want to continue using them, not unlike a VIP subscription to Open Subtitles Guess that time is coming closer, what is the actual progress on this? And the v4 API implementation? Will it be system-wide or subscription based? Or any alternatives will come in play? I don't mind paying dollar-a-month, but at the moment have no idea about the actual vision Dev team is having. Thanks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14948 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, GrimReaper76 said: Guess that time is coming closer, what is the actual progress on this? And the v4 API implementation? Will it be system-wide or subscription based? Or any alternatives will come in play? I don't mind paying dollar-a-month, but at the moment have no idea about the actual vision Dev team is having. Thanks It isn't finalized yet but, most likely, there will be a place for you to enter your tvdb key into the plugin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmack3000 84 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Any updates on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37178 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Bigmack3000 said: Any updates on this? Hi, please see ebr's response above. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8330 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just the supposed cutoff is maybe a month away. But TVDB has not said anything about this except a cutoff in March when they stated v4. Unless some one has seen something different. So everyone is pretty much in the dark until the last minute when they flip the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmack3000 84 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, Luke said: Hi, please see ebr's response above. Thanks. 37 minutes ago, Happy2Play said: Just the supposed cutoff is maybe a month away. But TVDB has not said anything about this except a cutoff in March when they stated v4. Unless some one has seen something different. So everyone is pretty much in the dark until the last minute when they flip the switch. Will there be a small gap between the switch to v4 and when the Emby plugin is updated? Or do you think it will be ready before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Maybe Emby and another media server or two should boycott the change and send them a message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGo 103 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, cayars said: Maybe Emby and another media server or two should boycott the change and send them a message. Completely agree, I've changed my scraping over to the open movie database a couple of weeks ago, it's not as good but I'm not paying for thetvdb, Trakt announced they changed a few weeks ago. Hopefully others will follow Trakt in switching. It would be easier (in terms of coding) no doubt for emby to just 'delete' tvdb as an option, but not great for people who wish to pay for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8330 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, GiGo said: It would be easier (in terms of coding) no doubt for emby to just 'delete' tvdb as an option, but not great for people who wish to pay for it. All you have to do is remove the plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmack3000 84 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, GiGo said: Completely agree, I've changed my scraping over to the open movie database a couple of weeks ago, it's not as good but I'm not paying for thetvdb, Trakt announced they changed a few weeks ago. Hopefully others will follow Trakt in switching. It would be easier (in terms of coding) no doubt for emby to just 'delete' tvdb as an option, but not great for people who wish to pay for it. I know the way tvdb went about this was horrible and controversial, but when looking just at the metadata it brings in "not as good" is worth a dollar a month to me. Should TMDB equal or surpass TVDB in a few months then awesome. But until then it's not worth rescrapping hundreds of shows and checking each episode for mistakes/order changes/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neik 837 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Bigmack3000 said: I know the way tvdb went about this was horrible and controversial, but when looking just at the metadata it brings in "not as good" is worth a dollar a month to me. Should TMDB equal or surpass TVDB in a few months then awesome. But until then it's not worth rescrapping hundreds of shows and checking each episode for mistakes/order changes/etc. Same here. I just don't know if it's worth all the hazzle because of a buck. No doubt their move was controversial though. Some sort of a dilema here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14948 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 5 hours ago, neik said: I just don't know if it's worth all the hazzle because of a buck. I'm pretty sure they were in the situation of - either we shut this down, or we find a way to keep it going. Put it this way - if you'd been working for free for several years and finally run out of savings, you might be forced to take a job that pays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 That is true ebr. But what rubs many people the wrong way isn't that THEY created something but instead are reselling USER DATA essentially. Of course it's their infrastructure and programming but the "product" itself is user generated data. I surely understand their situation from a business standpoint, but also understand frustration for those who have contributed over the years to make it what it is. What personally bugs me however is shutting down communication channels. With that said I'm sure I'll be a customer and subscribe regardless of what I've said or my own personal feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3324 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) While I agree with most of your points there, @cayars, I don't quite share your understanding for contributors and their moaning. If not all, then most (or not?) of us have at some point or another uploaded a bit of two there, but the amount of data retreived is infinitely larger, at least in my case. Granted, I'm positive there is/was a number of serious content uploaders there, with ratio reversed, albeit I'm also positive that content consumers are vast majority, by far. And therein lies the problem: "We created content there, so it's ours." No, it ain't. Nor it ever was. Nobody was prevented to create their own site, service or whatever. And be in total control. (And likely fail graciously). And all this uproar for - where I come from - price of HALF cup of coffee is beyond me. Even contemplating that to be a deal-breaker for me is, sincerely, ridiculous. And the choice of having that data for miserable sum (while in the same time overpaying for number of services which I use by an order of magnitude less than TVDB data) or not having it at all - is no choice at all. My 2c. Edited February 27, 2021 by GrimReaper76 Typos, of course 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Very well said and worth more than 2c. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37178 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 hours ago, neik said: Same here. I just don't know if it's worth all the hazzle because of a buck. No doubt their move was controversial though. Some sort of a dilema here... I don't think it was a question of stay free vs. try to make money. I think it was more a question of either go premium or face having to shut down altogether due to cost. They are too big now for the developers to treat it like a hobby project and just spend their free time on it. They need full time staff including software developers, customer support, etc., and all of that costs a lot of money. The funds have to come from somewhere or you can't keep it going anymore. If everybody swarms to MovieDb they could eventually end up facing the same dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 That's probably the best summary given yet. One thing for sure they priced things decently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neik 837 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 16 hours ago, cayars said: But what rubs many people the wrong way isn't that THEY created something but instead are reselling USER DATA essentially. On one hand: Exactly this. 12 hours ago, cayars said: One thing for sure they priced things decently. On the other hand: Also absolutely true. So, in my case I will just pay the buck per month and that's it. Easily solved and worth to invest more time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14948 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 20 hours ago, cayars said: But what rubs many people the wrong way isn't that THEY created something but instead are reselling USER DATA essentially. Yeah, that's what rubs people but people are not looking at that correctly. The product isn't the data. It is the access to the data. For instance. The original Google search engine didn't provide a single bit of data themselves. It just provided you easy access to data. Same thing. It still costs money to produce, maintain and support such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, ebr said: Yeah, that's what rubs people but people are not looking at that correctly. The product isn't the data. It is the access to the data. That's like saying Emby doesn't provide the media only access to the person's media. You're not allowed to use that kind of logic here. LOL Of course you're absolutely correct as well. You could also likely say that anyone who has contributed in the past has more than likely greatly benefited on the receiving end of data as well far more than they ever contributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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