Completed FR - Web Client & All Apps - Lyrics for Music

[BenVenn 22]

24 minutes ago, JuJuJurassic said:

I run emby on ubuntu, but with  If I added a smb share, can I cofirm there's no reason this wouldn't work with a windows box running foobar with the plugins, to add the LRC files to the smb share and hence the library.

One question I've already run lyrics finder, and generated the .txt files, will Ihave to delete these?

any guidace would be apprechiated, thanks

 

From my experience it doesn't matter where your media library is, so long as you use Foobar and reference the source files you can download the lyrics for them to be available in Emby.

I did the same as you first time around and removed the plain text lyric (txt) files and replaced them with the lrc files.

[FordGT90Concept 70]

I take it this lyrics still aren't implemented yet?  I used MP3tag to add UNSYNCEDLYRICS field which implements the ID3 2.3.0 USLT frame.  I tried playing the songs after they've been modified to contain this data and I don't see Emby showing any lyrics.

I tried Emby Theater Windows app and Edge browser.  I also tried putting the lyrics in a .txt file as the same name as the .flac and they aren't showing.

 

Ah, gotta click lyrics to show them...

I see a bug though: it's not filtering/consuming the "eng||" which should be according to the ID3 standard:

I also don't like how, when dealing with unsynchronized, it doesn't preserve the original formatting (helps see where verses, chorus, and bridges are).

Yeah...this is terrible for this music (The Lost Birds by Christopher Tin).  Men sometimes are singing the chorus under the women which are singing a verse.  When it's properly displayed, it's easy to understand what's going on but without the proper formatting, the lyrics really aren't helpful at all because I keep getting lost.

The way it is now is fine for sync'ed; if it is unsync'd, just display the original text.


I took the time to make a custom .lrc for one of the tracks and confirmed it is working on Windows via Emby.  I then went to the Xbox One S to try to see the Lyrics and they don't show despite turning the button on and off for lyrics.  It takes about 10 seconds to load after enabling lyrics on Xbox One S. I think this stems from the bigger problem, for example, where I can no longer see favorited songs in the playlist on Xbox One S.  It's like there's not enough room on the right anymore so both lyrics and favorite status are omitted.

Emby Theater on PC also has severe timing problems:
[02:05] By separation’s sorcery
[02:21] Made cruelly more dear. 
The start time for the first one is correct but it seems to ignore the second one.  The singers are repeating "By separation's sorcery..by separation...by separation's sorcery" in that gap but after like 10 seconds, it jumps to the next one anyway which makes the alignment all wrong until about five lines below it.

This issue does not present on Emby via Edge.

The issue does reproduce on Xbox One S.  All I did was start the song, waited for the lyrics to pop up, jumped down the list, then back up to the top and the audio and lyrics desynced by many seconds.


Xbox One S not only struggles to load lyrics (takes >5 seconds), it also fails to handle them in a playlist with lyrics working fine in the first track playing but then stops showing on the second track with lyrics (the space for the lyrics is just blank).

 

Found another Xbox One S presentation bug:

That list of artists does not wrap in Emby Theater (well it does, but not aggressively enough.  It's so long, it pushes the lyrics all the way off the screen.

Edited October 2, 2022 by FordGT90Concept

[FordGT90Concept 70]

It seems Android support isn't present yet?  Or am I just missing it?

[Luke 40063]

47 minutes ago, FordGT90Concept said:

It seems Android support isn't present yet?  Or am I just missing it?

Hi, what version of the android app are you testing with?

[FordGT90Concept 70]

Shield TV

[Luke 40063]

17 minutes ago, FordGT90Concept said:

Shield TV

Hi.  Can you try sideloading our standard android app on the same device and see how that compares?

https://emby.media/emby-for-android.html

Thanks.

 

[FordGT90Concept 70]

That's way too convoluted for me to pull off (have to pair it to a computer or a phone then use other apps to install it).  It's running 2.0.80g of tv.emby.embyatv

Edited October 2, 2022 by FordGT90Concept

[FrostByte 5253]

3 hours ago, FordGT90Concept said:

That's way too convoluted for me to pull off (have to pair it to a computer or a phone then use other apps to install it).  It's running 2.0.80g of tv.emby.embyatv

I wrote a guide if you wish to try.  Once set up it's fairly easy.

Otherwise, you may need to wait until the standard app gets to the store.

 

 

[FordGT90Concept 70]

I'll wait.  So I take it Android Mobile has lyric support but Android TV does not?  Coming soon to TV, I hope?

[FrostByte 5253]

12 minutes ago, FordGT90Concept said:

I'll wait.  So I take it Android Mobile has lyric support but Android TV does not?  Coming soon to TV, I hope?

I don't use lyrics, but others do.

Right now, I believe they are concentrating on getting the standard app ready for the store.  Hopefully that will happen soon.

[FrostByte 5253]

Just tried it for the first time with the standard Android app on my Shield.  So yes, it's there.  Using synced lyrics.

[FordGT90Concept 70]

I don't see how to enable it (Shield 2017):

Yes, that file has an accompanying .lrc file and lyrics work on PC.

Edited October 6, 2022 by FordGT90Concept

[FrostByte 5253]

4 minutes ago, FordGT90Concept said:

I don't see how to enable it (Shield 2017):

Yes, that file has an accompanying .lrc file and lyrics work on PC.

I believe they are concentrating most of their efforts on the standard Android app right now in order to get it into the store.

[CDagon 1]

On 10/1/2022 at 1:24 PM, FordGT90Concept said:

I see a bug though: it's not filtering/consuming the "eng||" which should be according to the ID3 standard:

I also don't like how, when dealing with unsynchronized, it doesn't preserve the original formatting (helps see where verses, chorus, and bridges are).

Yeah...this is terrible for this music (The Lost Birds by Christopher Tin).  Men sometimes are singing the chorus under the women which are singing a verse.  When it's properly displayed, it's easy to understand what's going on but without the proper formatting, the lyrics really aren't helpful at all because I keep getting lost.

The way it is now is fine for sync'ed; if it is unsync'd, just display the original text.
 

Agreed, the original text should just be displayed instead of a list of each individual line, which, in and of itself is also not a great reading experience due to odd styling choices (e.g. text color thats fails WebAIM's Contrast Checker).
Im only using unsynced as its the easiest to fit into a workflow and i dont really care for synced.
Atleast with the web view i can adjust the css, but not being able to adjust the android apps style is a pain.

For reference these are the overrides which make it more palatable for me:
 

.lyricsScroller {
  -webkit-mask-image: none !important;
}

.lyricsItem {
  margin: 0px !important;
}

.listItemBodyText-secondary, .secondaryText, .fieldDescription, .cardText-secondary {
  color: inherit !important;
}

 

[MindBullet 71]

Hey there guys,

+1 for this and awesome that there has been a lot of progress.

However, are there any plans to implement some lyrics database for people who do not have embedded lyrics in their songs?

Something like musixmatch or similar? 

This would be huge!

[ebr 15662]

Hi.  I don't think we'll have any plans to try and store or distribute these as lyrics are typically copyrighted material.

[MindBullet 71]

Hey ebr, I wasn't talking about storing or distributing them. Just as a Plugin, like other music platforms do. For instance Spotify or similar, who use musixmatch as a plugin for lyrics

[ebr 15662]

Possibly but it would probably require some sort of separate subscription and a large demand.

[MindBullet 71]

I see Alrighty then, but I tried

[devolegkosare 0]

On 9/27/2023 at 8:22 AM, ebr said:

Possibly but it would probably require some sort of separate subscription and a large demand.

My advice to you:

1. Basic features like searching and displaying lyrics are already included in Kodi. Including them in a subscription feels out of place, like transporting a suitcase on a truck. These features should be available at no extra cost. They are fundamental to the usability of your service.
2. The same goes for screensavers. These basic elements of the user experience should be available to all users without the need for a subscription. The feeling that you have to pay for such features can significantly detract from the overall experience of the service.

If this continues, we will soon see restrictions such as a maximum of 50 artists in the media library, and each artist will have a maximum of 100 songs. This creates the impression that basic features are offered through a subscription, which may lead users to abandon your "very good" service in favor of more affordable alternatives.

I understand that in the case of streaming services like Spotify, where I access music in the cloud, I do not mind paying to download tracks. But when my library is already stored on the server and I have to pay extra for downloading or accessing additional features, it seems absurd. If your service offers paid features under such conditions, perhaps you should consider making the entire service paid.

On the other hand, I support the idea of automatically uploading photos from a phone, but as far as I remember, this feature is free in Plex. This makes your subscription less attractive compared to competitors.

In general, reconsider your pricing policy. It is not about the price, but that basic features should not be part of a paid subscription. This will help improve the perception of your service and increase user loyalty.

Edited August 10, 2024 by devolegkosare

[Luke 40063]

23 hours ago, devolegkosare said:

My advice to you:

1. Including them in a subscription feels out of place

@devolegkosarethe issue is that, if you think they should be available for free, then where should they come from and who should provide them to you? 

If there's a free lyrics source available, and their terms of use allow other applications to download from them, then we'll be happy to look at incorporating it. I think when you read ebr's comment, you may have interpreted that as Emby would require payment to search lyrics. Emby wouldn't ask you to pay for the ability to search lyrics, but we might have to require payment for a specific source. For example, Musixmatch is not a free service, so if we were to use in Emby then we would have to be able to cover the cost for it.

[devolegkosare 0]

On 8/11/2024 at 3:37 PM, Luke said:

@devolegkosarethe issue is that, if you think they should be available for free, then where should they come from and who should provide them to you? 

If there's a free lyrics source available, and their terms of use allow other applications to download from them, then we'll be happy to look at incorporating it. I think when you read ebr's comment, you may have interpreted that as Emby would require payment to search lyrics. Emby wouldn't ask you to pay for the ability to search lyrics, but we might have to require payment for a specific source. For example, Musixmatch is not a free service, so if we were to use in Emby then we would have to be able to cover the cost for it.

For starters, I would like to see support for local downloads, as Jellyfin does with LRC and the LRCGET utility (GitHub - tranxuanthang/lrcget: Utility for mass-downloading LRC synced lyrics for your offline music library.). Creating plugins before purchasing a subscription seems impractical.

I find Jellyfin much more convenient, which already provides 90% of the necessary features for free, compared to Emby, which requires a subscription and only covers about 50% of the necessary features. Jellyfin also does a better job of scanning the library, while Emby does it slowly and inefficiently.

Also, lyrics can be easily downloaded from https://lrclib.net/, and there is already a plugin for this in Jellyfin, available at https://github.com/crobibero/jellyfin-plugin-lrclib.

It is important to note that using local data such as LRC files is a basic feature and should not require additional costs. If the basic functionality is not included in the standard package, this raises questions about the feasibility of additional paid options.

Edited August 13, 2024 by devolegkosare

[devolegkosare 0]

P.S.
Interestingly, Plex, even with its paid features, supports LRC files for syncing lyrics in its free version. More information can be found on the official Plex page: Adding Local Lyrics. This shows that basic capabilities like LRC support can be available at no extra cost in other solutions.

[Luke 40063]

We can certainly look into LrcLib.

[ebr 15662]

10 hours ago, devolegkosare said:

I find Jellyfin much more convenient, which already provides 90% of the necessary features for fre

Because we personally developed 90% of the code for them...