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Posted 20 November 2019 - 11:41 AM

I think the max for optical is 640kb/s...

 

But, the problem is probably the optical connection as that doesn't have any way to report what it does support.  So, to the app, I believe it looks like only stereo is supported (just like the settings seem to indicate).  So we are mixing it down.

 

Probably the only way to make this particular situation (no external device and only optical connection) work is with some sort of "force" option in the app - which brings with it its own problems (mostly support issues for us).  We'll have to consider...



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 11:56 AM

I think the max for optical is 640kb/s...

 

But, the problem is probably the optical connection as that doesn't have any way to report what it does support.  So, to the app, I believe it looks like only stereo is supported (just like the settings seem to indicate).  So we are mixing it down.

 

Probably the only way to make this particular situation (no external device and only optical connection) work is with some sort of "force" option in the app - which brings with it its own problems (mostly support issues for us).  We'll have to consider...

 

yes i was hoping to find some way to force the output. so for now i just have to wait.

 

if i use an external box like the nvidia shield i can pass through the receiver because it don't have 4k support.

and i can't use HDMI because there is no support for ARC in my receiver.

 

my options are to just plug an external drive to the TV, or use DLNA. :(



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:02 PM

and i can't use HDMI because there is no support for ARC in my receiver.

 

The receiver doesn't necessarily have to know it is ARC.

 

Can't you just Hook the ARC channel to your receiver (on any input) and then just use that input on the receiver to hear the sound?



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:02 PM

He's trying to play eac3 through optical. It doesn't support it. It won't work!

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:03 PM

Audio Title English Dolby Digital 5.1

Language English
Codec AC3
Layout 5.1
Channels 6 ch
Bitrate 640 kbps
Sample rate 48,000 Hz
Default No
 

 

That is not EAC3...



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:05 PM

The receiver doesn't necessarily have to know it is ARC.

 

Can't you just Hook the ARC channel to your receiver (on any input) and then just use that input on the receiver to hear the sound?

 

i have already tried that and it wont work, i think its because the ARC port on the tV is an input.



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:13 PM

While it was connected that way, did you check your TV settings to see if there was somewhere you needed to tell it to send audio out the ARC?



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:15 PM

While it was connected that way, did you check your TV settings to see if there was somewhere you needed to tell it to send audio out the ARC?

 

the TV let me configure for TV speakers and Audio system. let me check right now.



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 12:26 PM

the TV let me configure for TV speakers and Audio system. let me check right now.

 

just tried, and nop. nothing happens the receiver wont get signal from the ARC input.



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 01:01 PM

https://www.google.c...ou-need-to-know
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Posted 20 November 2019 - 01:09 PM

 

this is weird, becase in this case i'm getting 5.1 with the same movies that have 640kbp/s that is not supported by the TOSLINK.

 

 

so my only alternative is get a better receiver :(, i just got the TV, my wallet is crying.

 

btw that comaprative table is great.


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 01:36 PM

It's probably resampling the audio. And you're sure you can't get ARC to work? That would support the audio.

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 01:41 PM

It's probably resampling the audio. And you're sure you can get ARC to work? That would support the audio.

 

i don't think it would work but i will keep looking into that.

 

but i don't have so much hope

 

 

ARC capability requires handshaking, therefore both "ends" of the HDMI link must be ARC-enabled (and on the right HDMI port) for ARC to work. It's that way for most of HDMI options - lowest common denominator principle.

ARC is very simple in concept. It's designed for listening to audio generated by a TV tuner (or server) on the AVR. This is opposite of the way audio and video normally flows (from AVR to TV). It is done as a separate audio stream that uses a separate connection within the HDMI cable to send a low datarate audio signal back to the AVR. The AVR must have the appropriate chipset to read the connection as well as software/firmware to process the audio data. That's why both the TV and AVR must be ARC compatible for it to work. It's a separate audio stream from the normal one.

The ARC audio is limited to the following:
1) 2-channel stereo
2) 2.0/5.1-channel Dolby Digital compressed audio
3) 5.1-channel DTS compressed audio

None of the high resolution audio codecs (such as Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA) can be sent over the ARC connection. Some TVs also limit ARC to only TV- generated audio and don't allow external audio to be "backed" through the ARC.

An ARC-enabled AVR will have a menu option to allow selection of standard HDMI audio or the ARC audio for the HDMI input dedicated to ARC.

If your AVR is not ARC-enabled, you can get the same audio by connecting an optical (or coax, if available) digital audio output from the TV to the AVR, as Otto mentioned.


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 02:26 PM

But the bandwidth of ARC would support 640Kb/s. It won't support E-AC3 but core audio it will. But all of your equipment has to also support the requirements.

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 02:31 PM

yes, and for that reason i'm doomed ahahaha



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Posted 20 November 2019 - 03:03 PM

Lol... Well, it sounds like Santa is gonna bring you an upgrade :D

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 02:10 AM

There are several people using Emby Theater, that I have helped with a similar issue. So it's fairly common. Unfortunately, you can't do this with Android TV, but here are some links.

 

https://emby.media/c...sthroufh/?hl=af

 

https://emby.media/c...oding/?p=685797

 

https://emby.media/c...tereo/?p=540647

 

https://emby.media/c...-theater/?hl=af



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 07:33 AM

There are several people using Emby Theater, that I have helped with a similar issue. So it's fairly common. Unfortunately, you can't do this with Android TV, but here are some links.

 

https://emby.media/c...sthroufh/?hl=af

 

https://emby.media/c...oding/?p=685797

 

https://emby.media/c...tereo/?p=540647

 

https://emby.media/c...-theater/?hl=af

 

 

maybe some day we will be able to do this on android TV :D



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 10:57 AM

It might be possible to make an option for it.

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 03:37 PM

Same there with EAC3. Can we have a option to disable EAC3 passthru like the dts passthru one or a option to force transcode on audio only?
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