speedy78 1 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Hallo, ich installierte Emby auf meinem neuen NAS. Die Einstellungen wurde 1:1 erneut konfiguriert (nfo, images etc. in Media-Verzeichnis gespeichert) und die alten Media-Dateien waren an Ort und Stelle (inkl. nfo). Warum erkennt Emby den Film trotzdem automatisch falsch ? Ich musste ihn manuell korrekt identifizieren. Es war "Der Medicus (2013)" - in der nfo-Datei steht alles inkl. der IDs zur richtigen Zuordnung. Für mich bedeutet das, Emby nutzt diese nfo-Dateien nicht für die Erkennung der Filme. Wieso nicht, würde viel Zeit ersparen. Schönen Abend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Hi, why do you think it was recognized incorrectly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Because in the nfo file there was already every information. If Emby would had read them, It would have recognized the movie right not false. Its not possible to recognize the movie false by using the IDs. So Emby didn´t use the nfo file: <imdbid>tt2101473</imdbid> <tmdbid>169881</tmdbid> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 What ID was in the NFO file? What ID did Emby match it to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 3, 2021 Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 I already posted the IDs, how can´t you read that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, speedy78 said: I already posted the IDs, how can´t you read that? Which is which is what I was asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 3, 2021 Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 This should be and was until emby new installation on new nas (the nfo lines above) https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/169881-the-physician This was recognized automatically, i had to manually identify it https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/299118-der-kleine-medicus-geheimnisvolle-mission-im-k-rper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Please attach the emby server log from when it was imported. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 3, 2021 Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 Thank you, but I can´t read the word "logfile" anymore. I don´t post or send a unfiltered complete log, there are many things in it, perhaps about me / my license All log lines shows that you are never searching by ID, always with name in queries Like 2021-02-02 14:16:45.902 Info HttpClient: GET https://api.themoviedb.org/3/search/movie?api_key=XXX&query=Der+Medicus&language=de I am not wondering its not working, its like gambling. Like I told you, emby don´t read the IDs on NFO-Files. It was a automatically search, not one I manually did to correct wrong entries. Why always the difficult user way ? You know your software. You know You are not searching by IDs. I don´t have time always XXX everything in logfiles, I have some doubts. Honestly I justed wanted to help, but for me its less work posting nothing, discuss / proof nothing and just correct the few mismatched movies, instead of grabbing the right logfile and searching thousands of lines. I am not a english native speeker, its not that easy and annoys me. After new installation, there is my whole collection in the log files, emby had to scan on first run ! Same problem with "Der Schakal" recognized as "Der rote Schakal" - nfo with right IDs still existed in this case, too. Years later on TV shows there is still much more (10 times more) not working recognizing it, don´t shows the covers (only generated thumbnail / preview) And there manually finding it, changes nothing. We still discussed it, but It changed nothing. Then its not worth spending time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpi 72 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Tja, um mir solchen Stress zu sparen, erstelle ich schon immer die nfo (bzw. früher xml) Dateien selbst (und auch alle Bilder) und lasse die von Emby nur einlesen. Da habe ich die volle Kontrolle, was geschieht und muss nicht ständig das System kontrollieren. Aktuell nutze ich den Ember Media Manager. Der Einstieg kann etwas holprig sein, aber am Ende bekommt man gute Ergebnisse, vor allem gibt es auch vernünftige deutschsprachige Quellen für die Metadaten, wie z.B. OFDb. Ciao, Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 Die nfo-Dateien waren bereits vorhanden, Emby liest diese aber NICHT ein, z.B. bei Emby Neuinstallation mit Scan der vorhandenen Dateien. Wie bereits oben beschrieben sucht es eben bei der Verbindung zu z.B. TheMovieDb NICHT nach der ID (siehe Link oben aus dem Logfile query=Titel und nicht query=ID), die ja in der nfo-Datei steht und damit eine eindeutige 100% genaue Suche ermöglichen würde - sondern sucht nach dem Namen (Titel). Die Suche nach dem Namen ist aber beschissen, weil fehlerträchtig, wie meine Beispiele zeigen. Die Coder von emby müssen das wissen, verstehe deshalb die Bitte nach dem Logfile nicht - oder wer hat das sonst programmiert ? Kontrolle hast du mit deiner manuellen Erstellung trotzdem über nichts, weil Emby mit deiner nfo macht was es will und in dem Fall will es die ID nicht zur Suche verwenden, sondern nach dem Namen suchen. Darüber hinaus musst du viel Freizeit haben oder wenige Filme ? ;-) Die Bilder selbst erstellen ... ein Scan von Emby und es löscht viele davon und das weiß ich dank Snapshots 100%ig. Ständig fehlen nach Scans / Aktualisierungen wieder Bilder, es kommen zwar oft auch welche hinzu wie fanart usw. - ich frage mich jedoch, warum überhaupt Bilder gelöscht werden. Haben diese ein Ablaufdatum, werden die schlecht - oder was soll der Unsinn ?. Ich wähle immer nur "nach fehlenden Metadaten suchen" aus und nicht "Alle Metadaten ersetzen" ! Bei Option 1 sollte es NUR ergänzen nichts löschen, bei Option 2 alles ersetzen, wäre es logisch, dass es Bilder ersetzt Ich wäre endlich einmal für einen Feature-Stop und man soll Emby auf eine solide Basis stellen, zuverlässig und weitgehend fehlerfrei machen in BASIC-Funktionen. Es funktionieren seit Jahren so viele Sachen nicht zuverlässig, aber ständig neuen Kram in die Software packen. Macht echt keinen Spaß, jeden Scheiss 100x mal zu machen - z.B. eben Filme und Serien manuell identifizieren, weil Emby zu dumm ist, die Nfo-Files zu verwenden. Man müsste meinen das man das nur 1x machen muss - ja von wegen. Mit jeder Neuinstallation geht alles von vorne los, obwohl sämtliches zum Film im Film-Verzeichnis gespeichert wird. Es muss nur die Daten einlesen und die Datenbank füllen. Oder ständig verzweifelt das identifizieren wiederholen und trotzdem wird statt dem Cover nur ein Thumbnail angezeigt, bei der Film / Serien Suche wurde aber im Suchfenster das Cover angezeigt - nur eben nicht in der Übersicht. Auch dieses Problem besteht seit Jahren ! Viele Filme / Serien sind nicht dazu zu bewegen das Cover zu verwenden, obwohl die Datei online bei TheMovieDb o.ä. vorliegt. Momentan bin ich echt genervt, ich will mich mit Emby erholen, Filme genießen und nicht noch mehr Stress haben. Dann kann ich auch mal wieder testen, ob es andere Software besser kann. Immer nur eine tolle Fassade und im Detail funktioniert vieles nicht und das schlimme vieles seit Jahren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Hi there, can we please look at an example? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) Hi Luke, you already got an example thats show the problem. Your are searching by name not by id. 2021-02-02 14:16:45.902 Info HttpClient: GET https://api.themoviedb.org/3/search/movie?api_key=XXX&query=Der+Medicus&language=de I have no logs from this case anymore, last is 3.2. on server - new installation was 2.2 Edited February 6, 2021 by speedy78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Ok, if you can please attach the emby server log from when it was imported, that will help us find out why. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 I know, but like i said, the last is from 3.2 on server. I need 2.2, on this date the event happened. I did new installation and everything like create Bibliothek on 2.2. But you know, where to search, you are searching by name. If you want a 100% match, you have to search by id of nfo file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 Found it snapshot, apps@emby.media right ? I don´t public it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 @speedy78 can you please send the complete emby server log? What you sent is only a small snippet. I cannot see the full picture with just that little bit on information. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 How long do you think I keep all old data / logs ? You answered 2 weeks later and wants more now. If I didn´t have snapshots from my NAS, the emby software would have deleted it already 2-3 times in 2 weeks and you would have nothing. There are only a few old logs in normal case emby keeps without any system backups. Now I don´t have anything more for problems in around january, because Synology is configured to delete old snapshots I don´t need after some time. In the snippet was everything from starting the process till end, everything else was not relating to this problem. I searching in it very carefully. All other is the same like in snippet, just relating others movies. Like I already told, I did a FRESH installation, so everything else is about hundreds of others movies in my library. There is a lot private data, I never every send full logs to anybody, still If I would have it. Such logs after fresh installation have thousands of lines. I still not understand your problem, you are searching by movie name, not by ID - searching by name could find the right movie, but its like a 50:50 chance if there are similar named files. All you have to do is to change your software searching by ID, not by name. Where are your problems ? Does TheMovieDB don´t support searching by ID ? My logs proof, that you do searching only by name and thats the whole problem - period. You are depending by TheMovieDB etc. - if they are performing a wildcard search, the match has a big chance to be not the right one. I don´t unterstand why are not using the IDs in NFO-files for searching and why we have to discuss and waste hours, its just as simple, it couldn´t be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Quote I don´t under stand why are not using the IDs in NFO files for searching and why we have to discuss and waste hours, its just as simple, it couldn´t be easier. If you can provide a full log example, that would help me understand that. Perhaps you disabled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 I already told you, there is no more log from this period in around january, still no snapshot any more. I only keep it around 1-2 weeks, somethimes less, I don´t need more time for just movies. Thats more than enough time for movies, its not daily business data I keep snapshots / backups longer. What should I perhaps have disabled - there is no option anywhere ? In library settings there is only one option with "Metadatenformat: NFO" and thats checked. I save all data in movie directory. Why you don´t simple tell me how to check it - thats why threads are often 100 pages long in such boards - I have to pull everything from everyones nose. Send you screenshots with my settings, now. Why are you not searching your code, where you build up this string from log together ? 2021-02-02 14:16:45.902 Info HttpClient: GET https://api.themoviedb.org/3/search/movie?api_key=XXX&query=Der+Medicus&language=de I am pretty sure, you ALWAYS search by name, not only in some case. query= is your search string and thats key to this problem. The one movie was not the only one, all others movies are searched by name too.' But they are not always similar named movies on TheMovieDB, so I have only to manually identify a little few % of my movies, even though everything is already saved in the nfo file, from last installation. Only if It is not automatically recognized and I do a manually search by identify, then is searching by ID, because at this point the software is working right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 How are your nfo files named? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 Emby named it, I didn´t do anything with it, no rename, no editing of the files. In the automatically not working case for example: Filme\D\Der Medicus (2013)\Der Medicus (2013).nfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 What is the name of the video file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy78 1 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 Der Medicus (2013).mkv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Ok, I don't have an answer at this point but I can that it's not normal. If it happens again with a new title, please send along the emby server log and we'll take a look. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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