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#21 ebr OFFLINE  

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Posted 18 April 2020 - 09:49 AM

no one here asked to get any "discount" or anythig free that costed money before or even about the costs itself

 

the other way around is the case, the unequal treatment for the same thing was just extended again

and now "forced" users to pay for something, while others can continue using it for free

and thats not a good thing

 

The issue here is your perception of "the same thing".  First, it is not necessarily all that uncommon for different usages of "the same thing" to cost different amounts. Happens all the time in a number of normal contexts (airline seats, taxi rides, theme park tickets, user software licenses vs. commercial software licenses, etc.).

 

However, in our context, at some level it is all "the same thing".  It is all Emby and many pieces of Emby's technical implementation are the same in many different apps and platforms (and some are different by necessity).  You have chosen to view "the web app" as a particular thing and this is really our fault because we defined it that way. 

 

The reality is that that is an arbitrary distinction so we need to redefine how we present this with respect to our feature matrix.  As I said previously, we should change this to be by platform instead of "app".  We will do that.

 

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Posted 18 April 2020 - 11:35 AM

the same thing is the same thing, it's pretty clear here

 

just that you "correct" now your fault by randomly redefining what is a "website" and/or what is an "app", does not give it any sense nor changes the situation of inequality

 

jag a NUC to your tv, run the webclient from your couch -> free

jag a Xbox to your tv, run the webclient from your couch -> get premium

^ would be nice to finally point the difference, that justifies the monitary difference, what all this here is about and stop generalizing and trying to make the "stingy" users bad feelings


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Posted 18 April 2020 - 12:23 PM

the same thing is the same thing, it's pretty clear here

 

just that you "correct" now your fault by randomly redefining what is a "website" and/or what is an "app", does not give it any sense nor changes the situation of inequality

 

^ would be nice to finally point the difference, that justifies the monitary difference, what all this here is about and stop generalizing and trying to make the "stingy" users bad feelings

 

The web client will not function in the same way but, again, you keep asking for specific justification and I've already explained that.  All these distinctions are arbitrary.  The economic reality is that we have to charge for some forms of usage of the system or the system cannot exist.  Basically, the people paying are subsidizing or paying for the people who are not.  In which situations you need to pay is something we define as some subset of the functionality and service we provide.   

 

You cannot "justify" why the guy sitting next to you on a plane paid either half or twice what you did.  It is just an economic model that allows the airline to exist by creating an average revenue value for the entire plane.

 

Nothing is free.  Someone is paying something, somehow.



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Posted 11 May 2020 - 04:55 PM

so to clarify using a web browser on a PC can access the server for free, but now if you use a web browser on a console, you have to pay for premier like you would if you wanted to use the app on it?

 

the app I can understand, but web browser i'd expect to be the same across the board, is there something different when accessing through a console for it to be a premiere function?



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Posted 12 May 2020 - 09:19 AM

so to clarify using a web browser on a PC can access the server for free, but now if you use a web browser on a console, you have to pay for premier like you would if you wanted to use the app on it?

 

the app I can understand, but web browser i'd expect to be the same across the board, is there something different when accessing through a console for it to be a premiere function?

 

Hi.  My post right above yours attempts to explain this. 


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Posted 16 May 2020 - 06:40 PM

I don’t know about anyone else, but I would feel a lot better about this if it had been transparently announced first.

My family’s main usage of Emby is through the Xbox browser. I’ve already bought app access for several phones and would probably have bought access to the Xbox app too, but this feels sneaky and I am definitely not going to pay for an ongoing subscription. Guess I should have just gone “Lifetime Premier” in the beginning. Instead, I’m probably just going to stop using Emby.





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