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#21 rene.teniere OFFLINE  

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 08:49 AM

i do the same with a different
back end, mediaportal now dvbviewer. I acknowledge subs concerns but in my view the vast improvement of having emby do the scheduling and the much better overall experience of having one piece of software doing everything far outweighs the one concern he expresses, in that you lose multi rec. personally I just make sure that emby has enough tuners (8 currently) that this isn’t an issue.

 

I currently only have 2 tuners, which could be an issue, however, I only allow access to LiveTV for my account so I just have to be cognizant of the fact. I agree with both points of view. No happy medium? I am not sure how the m3u streams work and how you can tell if there are no more available tuners in a general sense. Do you make a request for the stream and wait for a response, or do you just grab the stream and if it works it works? You probably could figure it out in Emby if only one client is used, but I can see how it would be next to impossible if you had multiple clients. Or am I wrong?



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:04 AM

I currently only have 2 tuners, which could be an issue, however, I only allow access to LiveTV for my account so I just have to be cognizant of the fact. I agree with both points of view. No happy medium? I am not sure how the m3u streams work and how you can tell if there are no more available tuners in a general sense. Do you make a request for the stream and wait for a response, or do you just grab the stream and if it works it works? You probably could figure it out in Emby if only one client is used, but I can see how it would be next to impossible if you had multiple clients. Or am I wrong?

for only 2 tuners then perhaps using the npvr plugin makes more sense.

 

in setting up an m3u you tell emby how many tuners it can access so in your case it wouldnt request a 3rd one and interrupt anything that was already being watched or recorded but the 3rd request would fail

 

also emby uses the same stream for multiple clients if possible so there's no wastage there.

 

i'm not sure how things have changed recently because i've been very happy with my dumb tuner / m3u setup for over a year now but when i last tried the plugins were significantly slower at starting up streaming than doing it all in emby and often transcoded when they didnt need to. Probably the same issue really. And plugin just werent getting any attention from emby dev's. things appear to have improved for the better recently. Although i know by comparison with other people using the ATV app on a shield that my channel start up times are (in my eyes) significantly better than most. 



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:07 AM

Also another thing i have done here (which i think is great :)) is in building my own m3u i could combine m3u from a local source with one from my iptv provider. so i get the best of both world's, the stability of the most popular tv channels on my local dvbviewer install with all the iptv channels covering the various sporting events. recently xteve has automated this process and added several other benefits that are not and will not be available in emby in the foreseeable future.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:08 AM

You miss one can't not modify series timers in NextPVR nor Emby Plug-in

Yup 6 is very annoying when have no image all over the place which why it has be refresh every 6 hours with NextPVR Plug-in

As far multi-tuner this can be address by siting the maximum number of allowed simultaneous streams under M3U Tuner which the Plug-in dosen't have

 

By the why Sub did you get my email ?.


Edited by SHSPVR, 01 February 2019 - 09:56 AM.


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:36 AM

Also another thing i have done here (which i think is great :)) is in building my own m3u i could combine m3u from a local source with one from my iptv provider. so i get the best of both world's, the stability of the most popular tv channels on my local dvbviewer install with all the iptv channels covering the various sporting events. recently xteve has automated this process and added several other benefits that are not and will not be available in emby in the foreseeable future.

 

DVBviewer doesn't support analog and xteve is all but useless it maybe ok in your neck of the wood but in US and there are no IPTV provider in US even the folk at SiliconDust are having a hard time with with all drop channels, beside it just matter of time even where you at things will changes to.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:37 AM

DVB

viewer doesn't support analog and

xteve is all but useless it maybe ok in your neck of the wood but in US and there are no IPTV

provider in US even the folk at SiliconDust are having a hard time with with all drop channels, beside it just matter of time even where you at things will changes to

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:46 AM

for only 2 tuners then perhaps using the npvr plugin makes more sense.

 

in setting up an m3u you tell emby how many tuners it can access so in your case it wouldnt request a 3rd one and interrupt anything that was already being watched or recorded but the 3rd request would fail

 

also emby uses the same stream for multiple clients if possible so there's no wastage there.

 

i'm not sure how things have changed recently because i've been very happy with my dumb tuner / m3u setup for over a year now but when i last tried the plugins were significantly slower at starting up streaming than doing it all in emby and often transcoded when they didnt need to. Probably the same issue really. And plugin just werent getting any attention from emby dev's. things appear to have improved for the better recently. Although i know by comparison with other people using the ATV app on a shield that my channel start up times are (in my eyes) significantly better than most. 

 

 

Yes. So for the like 100th time I have set up my series recordings and discovered that through the NextPVR plugin, when you set up the recording in Emby, you cannot change the settings afterwards. I think this is an NPVR thing because I have similar issues using the NextPVR GUI. In Emby, this can be fixed by allowing the user to change settings BEFORE scheduling the recording. Until that is fixed either on the NPVR or Emby side of things, I will be using the m3u tuner option and limiting the tuners to 2 (since that is all I have).



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:54 AM

sorry I don’t understand

 

DVBviewer doesn't support analog as in Hauppauge HD-PVR model or capture card that has Video Analog input prefer Hardware MPEG-2 encoder to be used from a STB like Sat or Cable no do you understand ?

xteve is europe service I'm in USA there are no Legal USA IPTV service get it ?.

You do know that europe is also working on law why do think Kodi is always in hot water heck in Roku got in a bunch hot water of IPTV service in and no ban from Mexico.


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 10:15 AM

DVBviewer doesn't support analog as in Hauppauge HD-PVR model or capture card that has Video Analog input prefer Hardware MPEG-2 encoder to be used from a STB like Sat or Cable no do you understand ?

xteve is europe service I'm in USA there are no Legal USA IPTV service get it ?.

You do know that europe is also working on law why do think Kodi is always in hot water heck in Roku got in a bunch hot water of IPTV service in and no ban from Mexico.

sorry. no i don't understand why you would think i would care about that. i didn't respond to you and this isn't your thread.

 

also you make some really ridiculous statements that have no basis in reality.

 

i don't know about DVBViewer supporting analogue devices but as the analogue tv signal was turned off in the UK in 2012 you'll forgive me for not thinking that is a problem

 

xteve is europe service I'm in USA there are no Legal USA IPTV service get it ?. You do know that europe is also working on law why do think Kodi is always in hot water heck in Roku got in a bunch hot water of IPTV service in and no ban from Mexico.

 

Absolute crap from start to finish i'm afraid. inform yourself before you start lecturing inhabitants of those countries what is happening in their countries.

 

Don't bother responding



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 10:40 AM

sorry. no i don't understand why you would think i would care about that. i didn't respond to you and this isn't your thread.

 

also you make some really ridiculous statements that have no basis in reality.

 

i don't know about DVBViewer supporting analogue devices but as the analogue tv signal was turned off in the UK in 2012 you'll forgive me for not thinking that is a problem

 

xteve is europe service I'm in USA there are no Legal USA IPTV service get it ?. You do know that europe is also working on law why do think Kodi is always in hot water heck in Roku got in a bunch hot water of IPTV service in and no ban from Mexico.

 

Absolute crap from start to finish i'm afraid. inform yourself before you start lecturing inhabitants of those countries what is happening in their countries.

 

Don't bother responding

 

Last time I check it call discussion forum it doesn't matter who thread it is any one can joint in on the discussion

If that absolute carp then you name me one Legal USA IPTV service other then HDHomeRun service that allow you to record local on your own system that not cloud service.

Then perhaps you take the time to visit torrenfreak as said it just matter of time then I say see I told you so.


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:28 PM

Last time I check it call discussion forum it doesn't matter who thread it is any one can joint in on the discussion
If that absolute carp then you name me one Legal USA IPTV service other then HDHomeRun service that allow you to record local on your own system that not cloud service.
Then perhaps you take the time to visit torrenfreak as said it just matter of time then I say see I told you so.

then ou might want to modify your incredibly aggressive tone

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:48 PM

then ou might want to modify your incredibly aggressive tone

 

How is that an aggressive tone ?



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:30 PM

 personally I just make sure that emby has enough tuners (8 currently) that this isn’t an issue.

 

Yep, that is certainly a good way to alleviate any issues with this approach. It's not suitable for anyone with only one or two tuner - they'll absolutely get regular failed recordings. 



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:35 PM

Like I said though, I am the only one who can access LiveTV and I only have 3 OTA channels available to record from. Pickings are slim. With all the series I have scheduled I don't even have one time slot that overlaps. I can definitely see a country or Province that has many channels OTA having issues. I wish Nova Scotia was one of them  :(.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:36 PM

...tell me if I am correct in my assumptions...

 

Users of unsupported tuner hardware in Emby but supported through NextPVR must:

  1. Have tuner(s) set up and working in NextPVR (You can set up individual recording folders if you like, however, will not make a difference if you record using Emby DVR).
  2. Connect to and set up EPG (Electronic Programming Guide) schedule and updates as per usual so you could record in NextPVR if you wanted to.
  3. Install the NextPVR Plugin in Emby and perform a server restart.
  4. DO NOT set up a tuner card (won't find mine anyway) or create a m3u tuner.
  5. Manually Refresh Guide Data. The channels and content should now automagically appear in LiveTV.
  6. Modify the Emby scheduled task for Refresh Guide Data updates to occur every 6 hours starting at 12:00am (Next PVR EPG is updated at 2:30am).
  7. Set up the Emby DVR folders for default recordings, movies and series (main point of this forum thread).
  8. Now you should be able to record content, go into Series Settings (and hopefully in the future be able to pick a folder to record the content into), etc.
  9. Have the same access to recordings, schedule, etc. as everyone else does with their mainstream tuner directly connected to Emby.

 

 

For #6, I can't see why you'd need updates every 6 hours. Just schedule one for soon after the NextPVR EPG update, say 3:00am. 

 

I don't use Emby myself, so not sure about these other Emby-specific things that I've struck out. 



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:45 PM

You miss one can't not modify series timers in NextPVR nor Emby Plug-in

 

By the why Sub did you get my email ?.

 

It depends what you want to modify. You can't change the 'recording type' (from say a 'one-off recording' to 'all episodes on this channel'), but you can certainly modify all the other properties, like padding, or the number of episodes to keep, or recording directory. If Emby is not allowing your to modify those types of things, then it'll just be some limitation of the Emby plugin. 

 

Yes, I got your email, but I'd been unexpectedly hospitalized for a few nights, so not really in a state to be responding to emails etc. 



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:46 PM

For #6, I can't see why you'd need updates every 6 hours. Just schedule one for soon after the NextPVR EPG update, say 3:00am. 

 

I don't use Emby myself, so not sure about these other Emby-specific things that I've struck out. 

 

here a perfect example of this

https://emby.media/c...npvr-no-images/

If only do it ever 24 hour it end up with no image

 

Darn it posted the wrong URL


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:50 PM

here a perfect example of this

https://emby.media/c...pvr-recordings/

 

If only do it ever 24 hour it end up with no image

 

Nope, that wont require you to update the EPG every 6 hours. As long as Emby has refreshed after NextPVR updated it's EPG, then Emby will be asking for artwork for valid show identifiers, and NextPVR will give it artwork if it is available. 



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:54 PM

It depends what you want to modify. You can't change the 'recording type' (from say a 'one-off recording' to 'all episodes on this channel'), but you can certainly modify all the other properties, like padding, or the number of episodes to keep, or recording directory. If Emby is not allowing your to modify those types of things, then it'll just be some limitation of the Emby plugin. 

 

Yes, I got your email, but I'd been unexpectedly hospitalized for a few nights, so not really in a state to be responding to emails etc. 

 

That the problem change the all episodes to first run only or any else and even with-in NextPVR it can not be modify that way either we have to del it then re-add it back.

 

Ok then you get better.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:56 PM

That the problem change the all episodes to first run only or any else and even with-in NextPVR it can not be modify that way either we have to del it then re-add it back.

 

I'll probably make it possible to adjust the recording type in this next version of NextPVR.







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