"Auto" for Android Mobile over Mobile data or external Wi-Fi issues

[Richard Branches 231]

Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooo @Carloare you there? 

[pwhodges 1531]

2 hours ago, Richard Branches said:

I actually exposed my entire network to anyone here

Don't you have a firewall?

Paul

[Richard Branches 231]

I don't trust anything...

Can you delete that comment?, I still see the file there...

[pwhodges 1531]

I can't delete anything - I'm just another user like you.

But seriously, bad things are already coming at your machine without your IP address being found in an obscure file on a forum.  It's happening all the time, and it is your firewall, and use of NAT which is keeping them out.  The extra risk in this instance is not significant, I'd say.

Paul

[Richard Branches 231]

Yeah, I know what you say but still...

I just want the other comment to be deleted, that's all...

...And the issue to be resolved, looks like @Carlofound something, hopefully the devs will fix this longstanding problem for good...

[Richard Branches 231]

Thank you all for not deleting the comments where the file is 

[speechles 1919]

@Richard BranchesYou can delete it yourself. Click your username in the top right of the forum. Choose "My attachments" and delete it from there. It should remove it from the comment. Then edit your comment in this thread your mentioned it in to make sure it is gone. Only certain members have this ability to modify other users posts. I do not have that ability either.

Edited November 7, 2023 by speechles

[Richard Branches 231]

Thank you @speechlesfor teaching me how to do this, I didn't even know I could delete the file myself, others didn't seem keen to help out, they just let me act like an hysterical idiot

God bless you.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Richard Branches

[Richard Branches 231]

On 11/6/2023 at 2:04 PM, Carlo said:

The log file shows this:

2023-10-30 12:29:30.265 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://‌‍‍x.x.x.x:8096/emby/Audio/13077/universal?UserId=65bfe937333b407ba39658c8518f28a8&DeviceId=47f437986a5d865b&MaxStreamingBitrate=6583500&TranscodingContainer=ts&TranscodingProtocol=hls&AudioCodec=aac&api_key=‌e3d05ca4af904b3a9441631d04ef54ef‌&PlaySessionId=1698686887873&StartTimeTicks=0&EnableRedirection=true&EnableRemoteMedia=false. UserAgent: Emby/3.3.40 (Linux;Android 12) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7

This looks like it's trying to use standard streaming for playback from web vs trying to play the file progressively.

Does it tell you anything @Lukeand @ebr?

[Luke 37071]

Did you try setting the music quality setting in the app?

[Richard Branches 231]

12 hours ago, Luke said:

Did you try setting the music quality setting in the app?

We already spoke about that before, setting a manual quality is useful only if the app had two separate audio qualities, one for wifi and the other for mobile data, something you guys don't want to implement for whatever reason, it's a hassle going back and forth doing that, so no thanks.

[pwhodges 1531]

51 minutes ago, Richard Branches said:

setting a manual quality is useful only if the app had two separate audio qualities, one for wifi and the other for mobile data,

The mobile apps have an audio quality setting for Internet (e.g. mobile data) usage only; I presume it is thought that home (wi-fi) access is good enough at least not to require audio transcoding (video has a setting for home as well as Internet).

So yes, there are two audio qualities - full for home, and possibly restricted for away.

Paul

[Richard Branches 231]

@pwhodgeslooks like you haven't used those settings at all, have you?, they don't work as it should:

I currently see two "internet quality" options, the second one doesn't work at all and the first one doesn't work as it should because it also transcode the audio to whatever I select even on the local WiFi network connection, therefore, I believe what they must do is to fix the second one and rename it to clarify that it is meant for external connections (wifi or mobile data).

Edited November 16, 2023 by Richard Branches

[Richard Branches 231]

Also, audio and video must have its own separate settings, I see the current options confusing (it's not that I don't understand them, of course).

[Richard Branches 231]

Now that I check again, there are two separate settings for Audio and Video, however, the one for audio SHOULD NOT transcode the audio when using wifi but it does.

It is confusing, that's why I didn't noticed this very well before.

What I see is that Audio needs a "Home Network Quality" which is present for video.

 

[Luke 37071]

6 minutes ago, Richard Branches said:

@pwhodgeslooks like you haven't used those settings at all, have you?, they don't work as it should:

I currently see two "internet quality" options, the second one doesn't work at all and the first one doesn't work as it should because it also transcode the audio to whatever I select even on the local WiFi network connection, therefore, I believe what they must do is to fix the second one and rename it to clarify that it is meant for external connections (wifi or mobile data).

Why do you think they quality setting doesn't work at all? It works just fine.

[Luke 37071]

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Now that I check again, there are two separate settings for Audio and Video, however, the one for audio SHOULD NOT transcode the audio when using wifi but it does.

It doesn't. The audio internet setting is for a remote connection only.

[Richard Branches 231]

2 minutes ago, Luke said:

Why do you think they quality setting doesn't work at all? It works just fine.

Please disregard that comment, however, keep reading...

1 minute ago, Luke said:

It doesn't. The audio internet setting is for a remote connection only.

Yes, it transcodes the audio, I set the quality to 320Kbps while connected to WiFi and it should be playing directly but it's not, look:

[Richard Branches 231]

And I just found out that it does the same for videos when I set the quality to for example 360p for the Internet quality menu while connected to wifi.

[Richard Branches 231]

What is that "Home network quality" option for in video section anyway?, it's seems redundant unless it actually does something.

[Luke 37071]

28 minutes ago, Richard Branches said:

What is that "Home network quality" option for in video section anyway?, it's seems redundant unless it actually does something.

It is the video quality setting that is used when you're on the same network as the server.

[Luke 37071]

It has nothing to do with network type. It is related to whether you're on the same network as the server.

[Richard Branches 231]

4 minutes ago, Luke said:

It is the video quality setting that is used when you're on the same network as the server.

Yes, I know that but, does it really do something useful?, I don't see the benefit if Auto does it all, or at least that's what I imagine.

[Richard Branches 231]

5 minutes ago, Luke said:

It has nothing to do with network type. It is related to whether you're on the same network as the server.

Then why Audio doesn't have the same menu?

[pwhodges 1531]

It's useful for video because (1) the highest video bitrates can push slower networks to the limit, and (2) the automatic checking of link speed isn't always good.  Also, it is a way to force transcoding for testing purposes...

Audio bit rates are so much lower that even a poor local network connection isn't going to be troubled by them, so it's not useful to have the corresponding setting.

Paul