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#1 kanipek OFFLINE  

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 02:19 PM

It's in beta testing at the moment.

 

If you are frustrated with somewhat complicated setup of the various XLMTV programs out there or perhaps you would like a GUI? I highly recommend

EPG123: http://epg123.garyan2.net/

 

The beta is discussed here:

http://www.thegreenb...hp?f=99&t=11525

 

The primary focus for EPG123 has been getting reliable, accurate data into WMC and it does this very well and very easy. He has also built some channel management stuff for WMC in this beta for those that are still using it.

 

Take a look and see what you think, if you like it buy the guy a beer, coffee or chocolate.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 02:20 PM

Cool thanks for the info !



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:22 PM

i'm attempting to switch over to this from serverwmc, so far i think i've got it working and test mapped a few channels. my only issue right now is the guide/channels from serverwmc are still there, i quit the serverwmc program so it no longer shows those tuners and if i try and watch a channel associated to them it doesn't work, which is expected. when i refresh the guide though those channels don't go away. i tried to uninstall the serverwmc service from emby but when i click on the 3 dots button no menu pops up. anyone have any ideas?

 

edit - i was able to get the servermwc plugin removed by deleting it from the plugins folder and that removed the extra guide listings. now i'm working on adjusting all the channel images and mappings. next issue to figure out is i have some channels listed that i don't actually get and can't tune to, i need to figure out how to remove those from the guide.


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 01:40 PM

i'm attempting to switch over to this from serverwmc, so far i think i've got it working and test mapped a few channels. my only issue right now is the guide/channels from serverwmc are still there, i quit the serverwmc program so it no longer shows those tuners and if i try and watch a channel associated to them it doesn't work, which is expected. when i refresh the guide though those channels don't go away. i tried to uninstall the serverwmc service from emby but when i click on the 3 dots button no menu pops up. anyone have any ideas?

edit - i was able to get the servermwc plugin removed by deleting it from the plugins folder and that removed the extra guide listings. now i'm working on adjusting all the channel images and mappings. next issue to figure out is i have some channels listed that i don't actually get and can't tune to, i need to figure out how to remove those from the guide.

I put a newer beta version on last night that includes the channel numbers for automapping in emby and file paths to the epg123 channel logos. Take a look at the thread on TGB for links to the files.
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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:51 PM

I guess I should note post #21 in the TGB thread has the links to the new betas.
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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:00 PM

I guess I should note post #21 in the TGB thread has the links to the new betas.

 

thanks! got the new version downloaded and think i've got everything working so far. I still have a few channels that are listed in the guide that i don't actually get. examples are 5.4, 11.4, and 17.4. What i'm guessing is happening is i had to add an OTA lineup in order to get guide info from some of the channels like 13.3, 8.2, etc because the mediacom QAM lineup did not include those channels. The ones i don't get were part of the OTA lineup but i can't figure out how to delete/remove them so they don't show up in the guide.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:06 PM

So what you're saying here is that epg123 can pull guide data from Schedules Direct for use directly in Emby without WMC and ServerWMC?

 

This may be the solution to some of my minor issues I'm having that I need the time to write up a post or two but will I be able to custom map channel numbers or will I be stuck with Spectrum's numbering?

 

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:10 PM

BTW, I may be migrating to move beyond WMC and CableTV for that matter and use OTA with HDHR Connects along with a few streaming apps such as YoutubeTV, SlingTV, etc to fill in the gaps. This would eliminate a whole level of hardware HTPC with extenders and software (WMC) from my system.

 

The LiveTV and DVR on ShieldTV is as good as any, almost as good as WMC. Hopefully this overlay/skin will come to the other Emby Client platforms in the near future.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:16 PM



So what you're saying here is that epg123 can pull guide data from Schedules Direct for use directly in Emby without WMC and ServerWMC?

This may be the solution to some of my minor issues I'm having that I need the time to write up a post or two but will I be able to custom map channel numbers or will I be stuck with Spectrum's numbering?

Thanks.


Yes. You need to add an XMLTV source/provider in Emby and point it to the epg123.xml file.
As far as channel numbers EPG123 does not allow or give you the ability to change them.
If you have issues with auto mapping the channels - like I do it is possible to fix this with a little editing, so the auto mapping takes place. It is a little complicated so I won't go into here. PM me if you need that.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 11:28 AM

Yes. You need to add an XMLTV source/provider in Emby and point it to the epg123.xml file.
As far as channel numbers EPG123 does not allow or give you the ability to change them.
If you have issues with auto mapping the channels - like I do it is possible to fix this with a little editing, so the auto mapping takes place. It is a little complicated so I won't go into here. PM me if you need that.

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Mainly I just want to get rid of a bunch of crap channels and SD channels. Plus, I've re-mapped a bunch of channels with GuideTool already but now they show up twice, numbered per Spectrum / Schedules Direct and re-numbered by me. This is annoying and creates excessive guide load times and scrolling effort in Emby. In WMC it doesn't matter as much because the guide in WMC loads and navigates very quickly.

 

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 12:43 PM

Mainly I just want to get rid of a bunch of crap channels and SD channels. Plus, I've re-mapped a bunch of channels with GuideTool already but now they show up twice, numbered per Spectrum / Schedules Direct and re-numbered by me. This is annoying and creates excessive guide load times and scrolling effort in Emby. In WMC it doesn't matter as much because the guide in WMC loads and navigates very quickly.

 

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Until channel management comes to Emby you could always use the tag method, kind of a pain but it does work for removing those channels from the guide that you don't want to see. I don't think it will change the time for guide data updating though.


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 12:46 PM



Until channel management comes to Emby you could always use the tag method, kind of a pain but it does work for removing those channels from the guide that you don't want to see. I don't think it will change the time for guide data updating though.

 

I'm not sure how to do this tagging. IDK if you are in TheGreenButton Forums but I've got another thread going over there for about a week now on this subject.


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 01:07 PM

 

I'm not sure how to do this tagging. IDK if you are in TheGreenButton Forums but I've got another thread going over there for about a week now on this subject.

You need to add a tag for each channel you don't want to see in the guide.

So - Edit info -> +Tag (exclude, or channel_exclude)

Then in the dashboard -> Users -> "username" -> Parental Control Tab -> Block Item with Tags -> Add

Do that for each user and that is it. Editing each of those channels is the biggest difficulty, not a great solution but it does work.

Some day channel management will arrive.

 

Also you may want to check the order you have set for the guide page use the 3 Dot menu,


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 03:15 PM

You need to add a tag for each channel you don't want to see in the guide.

So - Edit info -> +Tag (exclude, or channel_exclude)

Then in the dashboard -> Users -> "username" -> Parental Control Tab -> Block Item with Tags -> Add

Do that for each user and that is it. Editing each of those channels is the biggest difficulty, not a great solution but it does work.

Some day channel management will arrive.

Also you may want to check the order you have set for the guide page use the 3 Dot menu,


So back up a bit.. Where's "Edit Info" to start?

Thanks.

EDIT
Under Metadata Manager?
I have some 400 channels to edit one by one!

It's clicking boxes on a list in GuideTool and epg123. Hoping for an answer to that in my thread on TheGreenButton. I just want confirmation of expected result before I do something horrible to my epg.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 05:53 PM

So back up a bit.. Where's "Edit Info" to start?

Thanks.

EDIT
Under Metadata Manager?
I have some 400 channels to edit one by one!

It's clicking boxes on a list in GuideTool and epg123. Hoping for an answer to that in my thread on TheGreenButton. I just want confirmation of expected result before I do something horrible to my epg.

If you go here:

http://localhost:809...vetv.html?tab=2

 

Choose the channels tab at the top. Use the 3 dot menu on each channel to pop up a menu. Edit Info will be one of your choices.

 

400 channels, yeah you'll be busy ;-)

 

Doing this won't do anything horrible to your guide. It just effects what get's displayed. The channels will still "be" there just hidden.


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:02 PM

If you go here:

http://localhost:809...vetv.html?tab=2

 

Choose the channels tab at the top. Use the 3 dot menu on each channel to pop up a menu. Edit Info will be one of your choices.

 

400 channels, yeah you'll be busy ;-)

 

Doing this won't do anything horrible to your guide. It just effects what get's displayed. The channels will still "be" there just hidden.

 

THANKS! Now I get it.

 

I'm looking to delete these in the WMC guide too and am concerned about loosing custom channel mapping if I do so I posted over in the epg forum on TheGreenButton too. I can see that doing this in Emby only hides things and does no irreparable harm but I'd like to have the data passed from WMC to Emby cleaner to begin with.



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:03 PM

THANKS! Now I get it.

 

I'm looking to delete these in the WMC guide too and am concerned about loosing custom channel mapping if I do so I posted over in the epg forum on TheGreenButton too. I can see that doing this in Emby only hides things and does no irreparable harm but I'd like to have the data passed from WMC to Emby cleaner to begin with.

So I take it you are having to deal with DRM issues? Hence stuck with WMC?


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:11 PM

So I take it you are having to deal with DRM issues? Hence stuck with WMC?

 

For the time being, yes. As more and better streaming options become apparent, that will no longer be an issue. Spectrum is doing themselves no favors by not having an app for AndroidTV as it has me looking around. My wife is good to go with it too as long as she still gets the shows she likes. Been checking out YoutubeTV and SlingTV. So far YoutubeTV seems better. That said, Emby lets us have our own streaming service.

 

If only the LiveTV on all clients was as good as it is on the shield. Still, 10 years on, WMC DVR is one of the best around though. If epg123 can provide rich data that Emby can use the switch is imminent but using ServerWMC in Emby is pretty easy and straightforward so there's that too which makes having WMC as a backend an option still.


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 02:31 AM

The only way to get custom numbering in emby right now, as far as I know, will be to use ServerWMC and do your custom numbering in WMC. Also, any disabled channels in WMC will not be transferred to emby so you should end up with a clean guide based on WMC settings. I'm not sure how you got a situation of seeing both your custom numbering and the Spectrum numbering in the guide. Do you have each tuner in emby twice (once for ServerWMC and once for the network tuners) and Schedules Direct setup as a provider?

 

Now that I'm working on XMLTV for EPG123, I've noticed emby still has some gaps in their XMLTV support. I would consider them minor, but it will bring it to the same level as the other providers ... support Video attributes (HD, 16:9) and Audio attributes (DD, DD+, stereo, ...). There is also a gap in XMLTV itself in that you can't indicate LIVE events. With ServerWMC, you get the HD and Live indicators in the guide.


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 10:11 AM

Now that I'm working on XMLTV for EPG123, I've noticed emby still has some gaps in their XMLTV support. I would consider them minor, but it will bring it to the same level as the other providers ... support Video attributes (HD, 16:9) and Audio attributes (DD, DD+, stereo, ...). There is also a gap in XMLTV itself in that you can't indicate LIVE events. With ServerWMC, you get the HD and Live indicators in the guide.

@Luke Can we get XMLTV support for the missing attributes? Or is that not possible?

 

I like to use the XML supplied by EPG123 because it gives the indicator/flag for premieres, which for me it more important right now than having HD indicator/flag. Would be great to have all available if someone wanted to use them.







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