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#1 plessers@gmail.com OFFLINE  

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Posted 23 January 2016 - 12:11 PM

Hello,

 

I like the search function of Emby  very much.

However, if I search for i.e. "David Bowie", I find the person twice

 

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It's not a big deal, but when I clik on "Artist", I find some information (aprox 105 songs in my case), and if I click on "Person", I find other information.(1 movie and aprox 50 songs).

 

What is the difference?

Can I merge both information lists? It would be nice to have all the songs displayed in one list...

 

kind regards,

Bart

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 01:33 PM

Person is movie\tv related.  Artist is music.  He did both so has two entries.


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:33 PM

mmm. @Deathsquirrel: does that mean that there is a bug (or my database is corrupt)

 

David Bowie as "Person":

- nice description

- movies played in

- songs

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David Bowie as "Artist":

- songs

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Although the separation into two people is artificial, this is no big problem for me.
But the problem that I can't find albums or songs in a clear manner is very annoying.
 
Why do I get songs as result when I filter on person?
Where can I find albums related to a person/artist?
Why aren't all songs displayed when filter on artist?
 
sincerely,
Bart

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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:35 PM

the movie and music artist/people databases are not connected. there is currently no way to match them up other than just by name which will inevitably create issues of false matches.



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:45 PM

I can understand that @Luke and it's fair enough not to have a connection between both.

But @Luke, why does the search result display songs If I filter on Person? 

Anyway: If person and artist remain separated, I would love to have ALL my music search results on artist:

- albums (where albumartist = searchquery)

- albums (where songs with artist = searchquery)

- all songs (for the moment right now, it seems that only songs are displayed that are not displayed with the person-filter)

 

The reason why this is so important for me is that the search is much accurate and quicker than Plex, so I am thinking on migrating to Emby (in fact, just bought a yearly membership for thgis :-) ).

 

grtz!

B



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:47 PM

Search is currently global, but I think in the future it will be more robust and allow you to do those kinds of things.



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:47 PM

Could it be the way your music is tagged?  Here is what I get selecting Artist.

 

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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:57 PM

Looks great @Happy2Play!

I tag my mp3's with mp3tag, and I'm quite sure they are properly tagged.

For instance

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However, one can never be sure, so I you have any tips...

 

 

bart



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:08 PM

Do all your artist display without albums?  Those tags should be fine.

 

None of my Person images show anything related to music, only Artist unlike your screenshot above where Person showing songs.



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:09 PM

@Happy2Play: can you please check something for me?

I noticed that I don't have artistId on my metadata:

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Do you have those properties filled in for Blake Shelton?



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:17 PM

Here is an example from each level.

 

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Artist

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Album

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Song

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So yes the artist id is populated at all level on my example.


Edited by Happy2Play, 23 January 2016 - 06:20 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:18 PM

I'm affraid there is something bigger going one here :-(

If I browse to my albumartist David Bowie, no albums are showed either...

It seems that the field "album" does not exist anymore!

 

Strange thing is that albums are showed on the album list.

 

Just don't understand it.

 

Maybe I should try to start with fresh install and re-index everyting. Will take hours and gbytes...grrrrr :-(



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:23 PM

Thanx @Happy2Play.

I can see that you have Music Brainz Artist ID

Also: you have a grouping level per artist on your metadata manager. I have a list of albums directly under music:

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Not good I am affraid...



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:24 PM

Did you do a library refresh of Music after the update was made for Albumartist separators?



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:25 PM

I will do that tonight.



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:25 PM

Thanx @[member="Happy2Play.

I can see that you have Music Brainz Artist ID

Also: you have a grouping level per artist on your metadata manager. I have a list of albums directly under music:

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Not good I am affraid...

That is probably the issue, but this is only a recommendation.

 

https://github.com/M...ki/Music naming


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:26 PM

can I specific refresh only Music Libraries?



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:29 PM

Indeed, I have 

 

\Music 

\Artist Name - Album Name

1- Song.mp3
2- Song.mp3

 

 

But, the article also mentioned 

"This is not a requirement and other structures will also work"



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Posted 23 January 2016 - 06:29 PM

can I specific refresh only Music Libraries?

Yes, go to Metadata Manager and select Music.



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Posted 27 January 2016 - 10:02 AM

Hi @Happy2Play, @Luke,

 

I have found some time now to do some tests:

Rescanned music and now:

  • music is still organized without artist level:
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  • search results are OK (albums are displayed with music artist):56a8cc91a0590_27012016144741.png

     
  • but I still don't have an MusicBrainz Artist ID

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So my problem is solved, but I don't understand why...

Also: it would be nice to have my albums hierarchically beneeth album artist in the metadata manager.

 

Is there something else that I can do?

 

kind regards,

Bart

 

 

 


 







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