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#1 yardameus OFFLINE  

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 07:56 PM

I started this in the previous forum, but I again wanted to plead for the subtitle downloader plugin for MB3. MB Classic and MB Theater would be awesome, but I figure just for MBT would suffice. After living without it for the last few months, I realized how many times I would use the MB2 plugin. I personally don't like subtitles, but the wife does so it's helpful with a few remote clicks to have the subtitle.
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:10 PM

It should actually be a server plugin, that way all the clients can consume the subtitles. I agree it would be a nice addition.
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:13 PM

yes, Red is right, it should be a server plugin.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:45 PM

Can you call a server plugin from the client? Like with Trakt, how you have the Trakt server plugin, but then have the MB Classic plugin so you can rate? If it were just server, than awesome, I just thought in order to tell it from the menu to download a subtitle, it had to be client specific.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:57 PM

In my mind it would be better served as an automated server plugin that, like the tmdb/tvdb providers. If an item doesn't have a subtitle, the provider just silently acquires it in the background. If one can't be found, it checks again in 14 days or whatever the refresh interval is. No fuss, no muss... they just appear :)


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 11:07 PM

I guess that would make more sense, especially with the option to display or not display the subtitles with MBT.  I really wish I knew how to program.  Gonna have to brainstorm about some places to recruit someone to make this.  Thanks for the input guys.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 03:27 PM

Whoever might be willing to make this might look into this library: https://github.com/Diaoul/subliminal

It is for example used by this fork of sickbeard: https://github.com/j...eida/Sick-Beard


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 03:04 AM

There was a thread about this in the old forum here. One user even said he's on it, but unfortunately hasn't checked back. 

 

This is really important for some of us -- here, it is the last straw that keeps an MB2 instance running. (I tried to have subliminal run routinely on a nearby unix box but it has too many issues.)

 

The plugin for MB2 did the right thing, all we need is someone to do the very same for MB3 server.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 08:57 PM

I'm sure I'm not the best one to develop this as I never use subtitles but, for the sake of argument, what would be the order of these sources for subs in terms of quality and availability?

 

opensubtitle.org

theSubDb.com

subtitleseeker.com

allSubs.org

[other?]



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:02 PM

I can't really speak to which is better than any others.  There is also subscene.com.  I've had the best luck with opensubtitle.org.  I've only recently encountered subscene through the app Sublight.  Handy, but hit or miss on some subtitles and some uploaders have accounts that you have to have an account for, so that would be a pain.



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 06:00 PM

Hi ebr,

 

There's also:

http://www.podnapisi.net/

http://www.tvsubtitles.net/

http://www.bierdopje.com/

 

(and I presume you mean opensubtiteS.org)

Have you considered using subliminal ? It's a Python library which you can simply call, and it will do the magic for you.

 

Thanks for picking this up!!



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 06:02 PM

I haven't committed to picking this up yet.  It could be difficult for me because I never have used subs.

 

Also, only two responses in here so far so that doesn't tell me this is a huge priority.



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 06:05 PM

I'd certainly like to see subtitle downloading as a plug in, but it's not my highest priority. 


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 06:07 PM

Can't speak about priority in general... can say that here, it is a priority, so much so that an MB2 instance has to remain up and running just for that.

 

I'd happily volunteer to work closely with you for alpha/beta testing, if that makes a difference.


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Posted 03 December 2013 - 08:29 PM

+1....I'd love to see a subtitle downloader as well


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 06:34 PM

Another +1; this is actually one of my favorite XBMC features so would love go see it here!

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 06:51 PM

I would like to see this too - but I would like to see MBT more developed first...


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:20 PM

Whoever might be willing to make this might look into this library: https://github.com/Diaoul/subliminal
It is for example used by this fork of sickbeard: https://github.com/j...eida/Sick-Beard


Unfortunately both are written in python.

The biggest problem i can see with this plugin is getting the right subtitles for each movie type, fps and length. As this will greatly affect when the subtitles appear in the movie. So to correct any inconsistencies each client would need to add an delay/advance adjustment in the player to allow the user to tune subs to movie.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 08:22 AM

A lot of these databases allow you to retrieve subtitles by file hash, so if you are using files from a major release group, rather than one you encoded yourself, they will usually find the correct subs.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:34 AM

I'm sure I'm not the best one to develop this as I never use subtitles but, for the sake of argument, what would be the order of these sources for subs in terms of quality and availability?

 

opensubtitle.org

theSubDb.com

subtitleseeker.com

allSubs.org

[other?]

notabenoid.com/ - for Russian subs






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