ebr 14928 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, crusher11 said: My themes are, however, perfect on every Emby client I've tried with the exception of the Shield 6 minutes ago, rbjtech said: they are massively different in dB needing an ffmpeg volume boost of 8 to get it to the same volume. So, to me, that says the other apps are probably playing these way too loud for most people's setups. But, the only solution will be to have a setting in the app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 You saw me say it's perfect and concluded it's too loud? That's an...interesting perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaku 795 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, ebr said: So, to me, that says the other apps are probably playing these way too loud for most people's setups. But, the only solution will be to have a setting in the app. Could the setting be to have ffmpeg normalize to a 'reasonable' level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14928 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Just now, roaku said: Could the setting be to have ffmpeg normalize to a 'reasonable' level? No, I'm talking about a setting for playback volume in the app not altering your actual themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaku 795 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, crusher11 said: You saw me say it's perfect and concluded it's too loud? That's an...interesting perspective. 'Most people' will be using commercial music recordings, which are mixed and mastered to be much louder than your rips of home video releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaku 795 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 minute ago, ebr said: No, I'm talking about a setting for playback volume in the app not altering your actual themes. Right, but for those of us with a mix of commercial music releases and rips from dvd/bluray, there won't be one magic correct volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14928 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, crusher11 said: You saw me say it's perfect and concluded it's too loud? Since you discovered your items were significantly quieter than most others then I concluded that, for most others, they would be too loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14928 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, roaku said: Right, but for those of us with a mix of commercial music releases and rips from dvd/bluray, there won't be one magic correct volume. One of the problems with this feature is that there really is no proper "source" for these. At this time, it is up to the user/admin to try and come up with a way to make them consistent given where ever they are being sourced from. Emby currently doesn't source them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, ebr said: it is up to the user/admin to try and come up with a way to make them consistent given where ever they are being sourced from. I tried that, but then the Android TV app turned them all down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaku 795 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, ebr said: One of the problems with this feature is that there really is no proper "source" for these. At this time, it is up to the user/admin to try and come up with a way to make them consistent given where ever they are being sourced from. Emby currently doesn't source them at all. Just adding a per app volume setting is going to net you more complaints than officially doing nothing, I imagine. Emby auto normalizing would be convenient for me, but I'm fine without it too. Edited July 5, 2021 by roaku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1920 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Run 'em through MP3Gain and be done with it. http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/index.php Emby does not source the theme music. Emby should not be altering the theme music or it becomes in effect the creator of such. In parlance it becomes complicit. If this is copyrighted you may hear "I'm sorry. CBS has asked for us to remove this title from our library" in a robotic lady voice when trying to play theme music for some titles you downloaded from the web. It is easier if you obtain your theme music through a third party to use a third party to fix these so they have a normal "floor" and "ceiling" in regards to volume. Edited July 5, 2021 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 None of that is relevant if Emby gives theme music different volumes in different clients. Just stop futzing with the volume in the Android app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1920 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Theme music is hardly a priority though. It cannot have that much attention thrown at it. It is just a small little trivial music player without controls. It isn't a robust music player. It is just a simple little thing that was meant to be fun. Theme music works. It just has quirks when the music is sourced from multiple/different places encoded by different people at different times with different applications. Edited July 5, 2021 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 Literally leaving it alone would improve things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1920 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, crusher11 said: Literally leaving it alone would improve things. Lets discuss that. Leaving it alone? Is the application adjusting the volume.. or is it the floor/ceiling inside the theme.MP3 incorrect? Are these always MP3 with the problem with loud/quiet? Is it other codecs too? Is it just on the Android TV app this happens or is it across the board? Leaving it alone is what the app is likely doing. Edited July 5, 2021 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 No, the Android TV app turns theme music down. The other apps do not. As a result, in the Android TV app my themes are too quiet. Disabling the thing that turns them down would resolve my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 hours ago, crusher11 said: Because the Android client is dropping the volume. They're not barely audible at movie volume, but they are barely audible at watching-TV-shows-at-night volume. Hey crusher11 could you PM a couple of themes you have for any popular movie? I'm sure I'd have the movie so I could drop it in and test it across a few clients. I'd like to hear what you hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4287 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 12 hours ago, cayars said: Hey crusher11 could you PM a couple of themes you have for any popular movie? I'm sure I'd have the movie so I could drop it in and test it across a few clients. I'd like to hear what you hear. We've done that already Carlo - the Blu-ray Menu sound tracks that were provided were significantly lower in volume than the commercial version from the soundtrack album. This makes perfect sense to me - you don't want your Blu-Ray menu selection belting out the soundtrack - you want it in the background as a non intrusive sound. THIS is why they are a lower dB. However - this conflicts with what the Android TV App is trying to do (ie reducing 'normal' volume MP3 tracks to these nice 'background levels'. This is good.) and subsequently the result is the sound now has two levels of dB reduction - making it inaudible when the overall volume level is low (ie night time viewing) The two options to resolve are to use the soundtrack version (which most people would be using), or simply have an option in the Android client to not reduce the volume further. But please keep this function - as for me, it works perfectly for normal MP3's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) On 7/5/2021 at 11:23 PM, crusher11 said: No, the Android TV app turns theme music down. The other apps do not. As a result, in the Android TV app my themes are too quiet. Disabling the thing that turns them down would resolve my problem. Can you test beta 2.0.31? There's a new setting "Theme Volume" that may help you. BTW % symbol is shown twice in the volume picker (10 %%) I don't know if it's a localization issue. Edited July 7, 2021 by vdatanet 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 I'm not on the beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 hours ago, crusher11 said: I'm not on the beta. You can download it here: Emby Android TV Release Notes (BETA) - Android - Emby Community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4287 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 hours ago, crusher11 said: I'm not on the beta. https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/42240-emby-android-tv-release-notes-beta/ I find it a little disrespectful that a feature has been added in beta to directly address YOUR issue and yet you are unwilling to even test it ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14928 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 17 hours ago, vdatanet said: BTW % symbol is shown twice in the volume picker On what device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdatanet 1549 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ebr said: On what device? Nvidia Shield: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 18 hours ago, vdatanet said: Can you test beta 2.0.31? There's a new setting "Theme Volume" that may help you. BTW % symbol is shown twice in the volume picker (10 %%) I don't know if it's a localization issue. I see the double %% also on my Shield, so not localization I don't think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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