crusher11 854 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 In the LG app this included the episode description. In the Shield app it doesn't. I swear I remember from using my brother's TV that there's an option for it in the Android TV app, but I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Hi, can you show a screen shot for this on the LG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 The Android version doesn't even tell me which show is playing. The LG version gives me the show, the episode number, the duration, and its description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37116 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I believe you can press up or down on android tv to show more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14930 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Hi. Yes, press the up arrow when that is on screen. I'll get a visual hint for this into the interface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 Ah, yes, that's the one. What does "stop" do? Cancel playback of the next episode while finishing the current episode, or stop playback of the current episode? Context suggests the former but the text suggests the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, crusher11 said: What does "stop" do? Just tried it and it stops playback at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 Well that's...weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 If you press down the START NOW/STOP OSD disappears and the next episode still starts once the current one ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Agree, it's confusing. There needs to be something like a "Cancel" playing the Next episode while continuing to play the current episode. Especially with Marvel TV putting post credits scenes in their shows once in awhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 You could replace "STOP" with "CANCEL" because you can always STOP playback after cancelling. Otherwise add a third button so that we can continue watching the credits without starting the next episode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2496 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 always been confusing, i've just never cared that much about watching the credits to complain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I never did either until Disney+ started having these Marvel shows with post credit scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 The first time it popped up that I was actually wanting to do anything with it was while watching a basketball game I'd recorded, so a) there were no credits and b) I wanted to make sure the whole recording worked so I could delete it from my DVR (it wasn't recorded within Emby, I got it off my DVR and saved it onto Emby). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14930 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, crusher11 said: Well that's...weird. The thinking is - the credits are in progress and you either want to: 1) Continue to watch the credits and let the next item play - so you simply dismiss the overlay with back or down 2) Stop watching all together because this episode is over and you don't wish to continue to the next one - so you hit the "stop" button which, well, stops... 3) Immediately go to the next episode because this one is over and you want to watch the next one - so you hit the start now button. A third button really shouldn't be necessary as there are already two ways to dismiss the overlay if that's what you want to do (back or down). Having said all of that, we have discussed turning this entire logic around to be "opt in" instead of "opt out". That is, instead of the default action if you do nothing being to continue on, make it so that you have to take some sort of action for the next episode to play. I think that would clear up a lot of this confusion and also help with the "I fell asleep and the whole series played" problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 That would be awful for lazily laying on the couch binging episodes, though. Or Virtual TV and the like. "Are you still watching?" exists as an option, which I've disabled, and that ought to be sufficient. There's already a 'stop' button as well, though, so having one on the overlay seems a bit pointless. And its presence on the overlay makes it seem like it relates to the overlay, and the playing of the next episode, which is why I first thought it might be a 'continue this episode but don't play the next one' button. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ebr said: The thinking is - the credits are in progress and you either want to: 1) Continue to watch the credits and let the next item play - so you simply dismiss the overlay with back or down 2) Stop watching all together because this episode is over and you don't wish to continue to the next one - so you hit the "stop" button which, well, stops... 3) Immediately go to the next episode because this one is over and you want to watch the next one - so you hit the start now button. A third button really shouldn't be necessary as there are already two ways to dismiss the overlay if that's what you want to do (back or down). Having said all of that, we have discussed turning this entire logic around to be "opt in" instead of "opt out". That is, instead of the default action if you do nothing being to continue on, make it so that you have to take some sort of action for the next episode to play. I think that would clear up a lot of this confusion and also help with the "I fell asleep and the whole series played" problem. None of the current options allow you to watch the whole episode and not continue watching the next episode this time. Thus changing STOP to CANCEL because STOP is already on the OSD The opt-in would work for me, but not work for those who aren't sitting next to the TV with the remote in hand. For instance if I get up and go grab something to eat when the credits start and miss the pop up Edited June 25, 2021 by FrostByte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, crusher11 said: That would be awful for lazily laying on the couch binging episodes, though. Or Virtual TV and the like. "Are you still watching?" exists as an option, which I've disabled, and that ought to be sufficient. There's already a 'stop' button as well, though, so having one on the overlay seems a bit pointless. And its presence on the overlay makes it seem like it relates to the overlay, and the playing of the next episode, which is why I first thought it might be a 'continue this episode but don't play the next one' button. Agree, just change the STOP to CANCEL. We already have a STOP. The more I think of it Opt-in will make a lot of people mad also 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14930 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, crusher11 said: There's already a 'stop' button as well, 46 minutes ago, FrostByte said: We already have a STOP Where...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14930 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, FrostByte said: The opt-in would work for me, but not work for those who aren't sitting next to the TV with the remote in hand. For instance if I get up and go grab something to eat when the credits start and miss the pop up The current idea is to basically have two options - one to show the next up information (this would be the "opt in" I spoke of) and another to auto-queue (this would be basically what we have now). So, I think that would cover both situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, ebr said: Where...? Technically, you could CANCEL and then use the OSD to STOP. As of now I have no option to watch the end of an episode that may have post credit scenes and not start the next episode automatically all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14930 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, FrostByte said: Technically, you could CANCEL and then use the OSD to STOP And you can do that now by simply hitting "back" and then "back" again at the end of the episode. A button to "dismiss this panel and not play the next episode" would be too hard to label properly and the changes I outlined above should cover that scenario anyway. You would turn on the option to show the next up info but not the option to automatically play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, ebr said: And you can do that now by simply hitting "back" and then "back" again at the end of the episode. A button to "dismiss this panel and not play the next episode" would be too hard to label properly and the changes I outlined above should cover that scenario anyway. You would turn on the option to show the next up info but not the option to automatically play. Okay, then you admit you don't need the STOP button. You just proved my case there are other ways to STOP without that button being there I'll be looking forward to your other idea though if you say it's better 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4289 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Why oh why do we feel the need to keep changing this ! Can we spend the time on bringing up the functionality for the other TV players to match what Android has today - ie basic stuff like FFWD/RWD or Chapters on the Samsung Client for example ... ie Uniformity for all the TV clients.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5052 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, rbjtech said: Why oh why do we feel the need to keep changing this ! Can we spend the time on bringing up the functionality for the other TV players to match what Android has today - ie basic stuff like FFWD/RWD or Chapters on the Samsung Client for example ... ie Uniformity for all the TV clients.. ? Because it's broke maybe? Why not go complain in the beta group where people are crying about thumb sizes being slightly off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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