clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) I have mentioned this before, but I have been using a work around for awhile now, with NO negative issues that I have encountered......... I have disabled transcoding under the settings, and now I have BOTH CC and pause/play. Not an optimal solution but it does work. I run the server on several different low powered devices, for testing purposes. This is running on a low powered, Beelink miniPC running an Intel Comet Lake SoC. Edited February 20, 2021 by clarkss12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14913 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, clarkss12 said: a work around for awhile now, with NO negative issues that I have encountered That WILL create negative issues for a lot of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, ebr said: That WILL create negative issues for a lot of people. For instance?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14913 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, clarkss12 said: For instance?? Any content that requires transcoding to play properly will fail to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, ebr said: Any content that requires transcoding to play properly will fail to play. ??? I am confused. I just tested "Back to the Future" encoded with the VC-1 video codec, which is the worse codec for my Amlogic boxes. It always has to be transcoded, but it plays perfectly, using this miniPC as my server.. Is it dependent on the server hardware?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 You didn't turn off transcoding in those pics. You turned off Hardware transcoding is all. So now your CPU is doing the work instead of your GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, cayars said: You didn't turn off transcoding in those pics. You turned off Hardware transcoding is all. So now your CPU is doing the work instead of your GPU. Yes, that is correct, I should have stated "hardware transcoding". Agreed that hardware transcoding is the best way to do it, but If using my CPU for transcoding lets my CC and pause/play to function at the same time, it is a sacrifice that I will make. Personally, I have not seen any limitations. Since I MUST use CC, my choices of method for watching live TV, were limited to the HDHomeRun app, or using software transcoding under Emby. I much prefer Emby vs any other method. I could go back in time and crank up one of my old devices and run Tvheadend server on it, then use the tvheadend Emby app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14913 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 So, perhaps what we've actually learned here is that not using HW acceleration is preserving the CC during a transcode...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I doubt he has live seek mode on (ability to pause/RW, etc). It's the combination of being able to RW/pause live that kills CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I was just trying to test combinations that work/don't work but in .74 ATV if I try to force transcoding I can't. It's ignoring the change and the Bitrate in SFN shows as <Unknown> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, cayars said: I doubt he has live seek mode on (ability to pause/RW, etc). It's the combination of being able to RW/pause live that kills CC. IF you look at my pictures that I posted, IT DOES have CC AND SEEK mode............... Yes, I can have my cake and eat it too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, ebr said: So, perhaps what we've actually learned here is that not using HW acceleration is preserving the CC during a transcode...? Yes, that is a fact......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Sounds good. Let me ask a few questions to try and reproduce. What client was that you're playing back on? What version of client? What server version are you running? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, cayars said: Sounds good. Let me ask a few questions to try and reproduce. What client was that you're playing back on? What version of client? What server version are you running? Thank you! Server Version 4.6.0.26 beta, Client 1.8.75g. Running on Windows miniPC with Intel CPU. I was using a Mecool KM6 Deluxe official Google Certified device.... Edited February 20, 2021 by clarkss12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 What do you have set for stream copy in the app setup options? Were you intentionally forcing a transcode above by limiting bitrate? Could you play back another interlaced channel and upload ONLY the ffmpeg log file it generates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, cayars said: What do you have set for stream copy in the app setup options? Were you intentionally forcing a transcode above by limiting bitrate? Could you play back another interlaced channel and upload ONLY the ffmpeg log file it generates? I am NOT intentionally forcing anything that I am aware of. I do not know what "stream copy" is ffmpeg-transcode-ace6338a-784a-4aca-a7ea-c9ff1ca50201_1.txt Edited February 20, 2021 by clarkss12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) Now I am playing a Basketball game on a 1080i channel. I CAN pause/play & FF/RW AND show Closed Captions............ The ONLY thing I have done is DISABLE HARDWARE acceleration on the SERVER. Game IS transcoding, BUT playing perfectly AND NO Buffering. In the picture below, the game has been paused..... ffmpeg-directstream-e9cb4cd7-afbb-44ef-bd80-d93dc0e8c96f_1.txt Edited February 20, 2021 by clarkss12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14913 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, clarkss12 said: Game IS transcoding It isn't transcoding. As shown in your image there, it is direct streaming - the video is being passed untouched (shows as direct in the stats). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Hmm. So why did I buy a GPU? I have selected mpegts to software decode server side but everything else is hardware decoded and encoded. Suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14913 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, Sammy said: Hmm. So why did I buy a GPU? I have selected mpegts to software decode server side but everything else is hardware decoded and encoded. Suggestions? My suggestion is to just leave it alone until the server is updated in a coming beta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 295 Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, ebr said: It isn't transcoding. As shown in your image there, it is direct streaming - the video is being passed untouched (shows as direct in the stats). Strange, I switch to a SD channel, I am guessing it is broadcast in 480i, it transcodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 hours ago, clarkss12 said: ffmpeg-directstream-e9cb4cd7-afbb-44ef-bd80-d93dc0e8c96f_1.txt 88 kB · 0 downloads IsInterlaced: false that is saying ffmpeg say the stream is NOT interlaced. That's a bit surprising for CBS at 1080 resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Droid 643 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, cayars said: IsInterlaced: false that is saying ffmpeg say the stream is NOT interlaced. That's a bit surprising for CBS at 1080 resolution. So based on that it misidentified the stream and plays it correctly. Since there's no such thing as ATSC OTA 1080p it's playing it right by playing it wrong. Go figure... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Q-Droid, that sounds about right. Lucky accident I guess we could say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8282 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 So you guys are saying this is wrong? Quote {"Protocol":"Http","Id":"native_eaa5519acc31904b037b20a97fa3f8e8_6296c52a53ac97939de9985d02be4652","Path":"http://127.0.0.1:8096/LiveTv/LiveStreamFiles/c3c3c99930c541b6a9d9e190fb975d37/stream.ts","Type":"Default","Container":"mpegts","IsRemote":false,"ContainerStartTimeTicks":636074242670,"SupportsTranscoding":true,"SupportsDirectStream":true,"SupportsDirectPlay":false,"IsInfiniteStream":true,"RequiresOpening":true,"RequiresClosing":true,"LiveStreamId":"06044cf0e6f93cdae5f285c9ecfaaeb4_01413a525b3a9622ce6fdf19f7dde354_native_eaa5519acc31904b037b20a97fa3f8e8_6296c52a53ac97939de9985d02be4652","RequiresLooping":false,"SupportsProbing":false,"MediaStreams":[{"Codec":"mpeg2video","StreamStartTimeTicks":636081995330,"TimeBase":"1/90000","CodecTimeBase":"1001/30000","VideoRange":"SDR","DisplayTitle":"1080p MPEG2VIDEO","IsInterlaced":false,"BitRate":20000000,"BitDepth":8,"RefFrames":1,"IsDefault":false,"IsForced":false,"Height":1080,"Width":1920,"AverageFrameRate":29.97003,"RealFrameRate":59.94006,"Profile":"Main","Type":"Video","AspectRatio":"16:9","Index":-1,"IsExternal":false,"IsTextSubtitleStream":false,"SupportsExternalStream":false,"Protocol":"File","PixelFormat":"yuv420p","Level":4,"IsAnamorphic":false},{"Codec":"ac3","CodecTag":"AC-3","StreamStartTimeTicks":636074242670,"TimeBase":"1/90000","CodecTimeBase":"1/48000","DisplayTitle":"AC3 5.1","IsInterlaced":false,"ChannelLayout":"5.1","BitRate":384000,"Channels":6,"SampleRate":48000,"IsDefault":false,"IsForced":false,"Type":"Audio","Index":-1,"IsExternal":false,"IsTextSubtitleStream":false,"SupportsExternalStream":false,"Protocol":"File"}],"Formats":[],"Bitrate":20384000,"RequiredHttpHeaders":{},"ReadAtNativeFramerate":false} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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