Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 I am using the same profile as before. This is too complicated. Nothing seems to work as it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 It will work, but encoding takes time to learn to do right. One profile for all files is normally not the way to do it. CPU vs GPU profiles may need to be different. Your encodings will only be as good as the time you put into things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Don't worry, I'm a stubborn German....I never give up and you're right, I will get it I am just frustrated is all. I just checked the H.264 encoding I made of the same file and it is 500 MB smaller than the H.265 so something is way borked up here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) I solved the CPU utilization problem, let's see if it solves the other problem....I went into the config file and switched it to ffmpeg being the first to try instead of handbrake and now ffmpeg is encoding in about the same time but using 50% less CPU. Edited October 28, 2020 by Ronstang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Glad to see you experimenting a bit. It will pay off in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) I experiment all the time......I just don't always understand what I'm experimenting with until I've wasted a bunch of time LOL. What made me think to try this is I use the task manager a lot and usually have it open to check things and I remember that I have not seen handbrake being used in forever....and that usually when I am running MCEBuddy that ffmpeg is running, and that your choice Xmedia Recode uses ffmpeg. Now, I have no idea why all of a sudden it is opting for handbrake over ffmpeg or how it even decides but I did remember that there is an order switch in the profiles page so I just switched ffmpeg to be first.....problem solved.....well, one problem solved. At least my PC is usable like usual and my temperature dropped 30 degrees C. Edited October 28, 2020 by Ronstang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 I just finished the H.264 file and using ffmpeg the H.265 file is 60% the size of the H.264. Now earlier using handbrake software encoding the H.265 file was way smaller at 28% the size of the H.264 encoding. Do you have any thoughts on why such a big difference in file size? I watched some of the H.265 software encoding earlier on the TV and the quality was spectacular so I would love to figure out how to get the files this small with hardware encoding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 the size difference is likely to be the bitrate of the output file bigger size usually the average bit rate will be higher this is down to the settings you have used with ffmpeg handbrake has many defaults and usually they are aggressive by default - so smaller files size - not always a good encode result - i used it a few years ago but have found if you invest the time in ffmpeg options you get a better result thats in your control and less of a black box cpu encoding although slower generally gives you a smaller size for the "same" settings vs a gpu encode - but this is significantly quicker at the expense of slightly bigger file sizes so its a trade off in the end - but can quickly become a rabbit hole you disappear down chasing the difference between options but if you cant tell much if any difference when watching the output and you made a space gain in the process - maybe time to stop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1532 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Note, for instance, that if you are using the CRF setting, values for h.265 are in a different range from those for h.264. The Handbrake documentation doesn't mention this. Values 3 to 5 larger are likely to give equivalent quality. Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Here is the contents of the profile for H.265.......at the moment I understand very little of it [HEVC MKV] Description=HEVC in MKV (H.265/AC3) conversion. Creates a smaller file (50% smaller than H.264) with comparable quality but very slow. order=ffmpeg,handbrake ffmpeg-general=-threads 0 ffmpeg-video=-ss 0 -vf yadif=0:-1:1,hqdn3d -vcodec libx265 -preset medium -crf 26 -map 0:v -sn ffmpeg-audio=-acodec ac3 -ab 160k -map 0:a ffmpeg-audioac3=-acodec ac3 -ab 256k -map 0:a ffmpeg-ext=.mkv ffmpeg-audiodelay=skip handbrake-general=--decomb --loose-anamorphic --verbose=2 handbrake-video=--start-at duration:0 -e x265 --encoder-preset medium -q 26 handbrake-audio=-E ffac3 -R auto -B 160 -D 0 -a 1,2,3,4,5 handbrake-audioac3=-E ffac3 -R auto -B 256 -D 0 -a 1,2,3,4,5 handbrake-ext=.mkv handbrake-audiodelay=skip PreConversionCommercialRemover=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) I found a new issue with H.265.....when I play a file in emby ffmpeg shoots up the CPU utilization to 99%.....when playing H.264 CPU utilization stays in the mid 40s. This happens for all H.265 content but if I play it with PotPlayer the CPU utilization starts off with a spike to mid 60s for a few seconds then settles down and bounces between 25-33%. Edited October 28, 2020 by Ronstang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 What client are you playing the 265 file in? Not all clients can playback 265 while almost all can play back 264 content. Chrome or Firefox browsers for example have no native support for 265 so the content will get transcoded by the Emby Server to 264 for those clients. That could be what you see if this is on the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, Ronstang said: I found a new issue with H.265.....when I play a file in emby ffmpeg shoots up the CPU utilization to 99%.....when playing H.264 CPU utilization stays in the mid 40s. This happens for all H.265 content but if I play it with PotPlayer the CPU utilization starts off with a spike to mid 60s for a few seconds then settles down and bounces between 25-33%. you are describing emby transcoding your file on the fly because you are using a browser i suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 This is why I come here guys. I am new to this and wasn't thinking. That was the issue. When I play the same file on my Firestick 4K CPU utilization is 1% or basically idle. I use Chrome but if I switch everything to H.265 that is not going to work anymore. What browser do you suggest and how can I configure Emby to start in that browser automatically instead of Chrome which is my default browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 The only thing I can find in settings is to open Emby in my default browser....which is Chrome, and I'm not changing my default because everything Microsoft sucks and I will use Edge for Emby but I don't want to use it for anything else. How can I make Emby open in Edge if it's not my default? This should be an option in the dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Simple thing to do is NOT use a browser on your home PCs but use Emby Theater instead! Microsoft Edge can have support for h.265 if you install the right version but to me it's just far easier to use Theater. Have you tried that yet? https://emby.media/emby-theater.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Yeah, I've tried it but I just had to buy an almost $200 video card I hadn't planned for so Emby premiere will have to wait for now. I need more storage first also so it will be a while. I don't actually want to watch content on my browser or a desktop app, I have no need for that. I am not switching to my HTPC to watch content when my Firestick does all I need with no hassles.....and I watch mainly in the bedroom and not the den. I only use the browser to manage my server and check and test my content so staying with a browser is all I actually need. There should be a way to select the browser of choice in Emby if browsers are so finicky playing content. Edited October 28, 2020 by Ronstang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Sorry didn't even think you might not have Premiere. You're missing out. If the video card is also in your Emby Server it can be used for real-time transcoding as well which is powerful stuff! Keep in mind you could just subscribe to Premiere on a monthly basis for $5. Do that for a couple of months then buy the lifetime license when it's easier to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) So you're telling me there is no way to make Emby use the browser I choose? I just tried Edge and it immediately hits 100% CPU so it doesn't support H.265.....which browsers do? Edited October 28, 2020 by Ronstang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 You can always turn off Emby from automatically opening a browser then open the browser of your choice from a link, favorite or even a taskbar or desktop icon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronstang 202 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 That is fine, except I need to find a browser that has support for H.265 and I have the latest version and it does not work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37095 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ronstang said: That is fine, except I need to find a browser that has support for H.265 and I have the latest version and it does not work Microsoft Edge on Windows does, provided your graphics card supports hardware decoding of hevc, and you have the hevc extension installed from the windows store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooty234 266 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 What version of Edge are you guys using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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