MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 Thank you Happy2Play and speechless now about my other problems.................................................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Please create topics and we're happy to help. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1917 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) @@MikeEmbyMike Happiness is my number one goal! I am glad you are happy. /me high fives @@Happy2Play Thanks happy for confirming I wasn't coding like a chimpanzee. Thanks Edited December 16, 2018 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hi everybody I have been doing a lot of testing and experimenting today with some odd results I am breaking to cook dinner (my turn again) but I will post my results a little later Incidentally, I am most impressed that I have the app writers responding. When asked for support in another software group's forum, perplext or something like that , the response was along the lines of "we are right, all the users are wrong. This is what we are giving you, live with it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Thanks for the feedback ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 You believe that the transcoding and hence high CPU usage is because of the Polish subtitlesThis does not make sense because1)Start playing film with Polish (.pol.srt)subtitles ..... 95 % CPU in server host2)go through the process of re-selecting 'Auto' in 'Chose Quality' in 'Playback Options' on Roku client3)Film reloads and starts playing still with Polish subtitles displaying properly but server host drops back to 4% CPUThat would imply that by simply re-selecting 'Auto' in 'Chose Quality', the Roku suddenly understands how to display the subtitlesMy lovely partner is Polish and, although her English is very good, subtitles really make films and TV more enjoyable and relaxing as there is no 'internal translating' necessary for herIt would probably be better for me to learn Polish but I can't afford the plastic surgery necessary to pronounce "Szczęście", "Bezwzględny" or "zymankowszczyzna "(great in Scrabble though)The Roku is more than capable of displaying Polish subtitles nativelyQuote from an earlier speechless post:-"Language: "und,afr,alb,baq,bre,cat,dan,eng,fao,glg,ger,ice,may,gle,ita,lat,ltz,nor,oci,por,roh,gla,spa,swa,swe,wln,est,fin,fre,dut,rum"These are passed as supported on Roku to the Emby server."These are the so-called Romance languages that Roku say can be handled natively. But they have missed out a whole bunch of languages that use the same character sets as these (Polish, Czech, Slovenian etc. etc. etc)Roku say that they natively support any srt as long as it is Roman based. I think they mean Romance based, but I am convinced that should be any language using Latin script (as in unicode-latin). This is why the Polish UTF-8 subtitles are displaying correctly both when the server is transcoding and when it is not.Remember that at one point I was watching with perfectly rendered Polish subtitles while the Emby server was NOT transcodingI tried one more session.selected Maniac S01E03 which has a .pol.srt file with itRan displaying subtitles96% CPUswitched off subtitles, restarted96% CPUswitched back on Polish subtitles and selected 'Auto' in 'Chose Quality', restarted3 % CPUrepeated with .pol.srt renamed to .srtRan displaying subtitles perfectly3% CPUI then deleted the subtitle file and played it againThe CPU % shot up to the high 80s. This I really, really don't understandThe choice for me is either Plex, not transcoding but with the subs randomly +/- 3 seconds out or Emby displaying perfect subtitles while melting the table the server is sitting on.I will buy a new table now and then to keep 'her indoors' happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 @@MikeEmbyMike, if you can attach a log example I am happy to review. Our next beta app update will remove that subtitle restriction. I think it would be fair to re-evaluate once you have that, no?@@speechles can advise on when that will be available. Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1917 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 @@Luke Whenever Eric wants to release it. We have no blackout for the Beta. It is self published. It is only apps which Roku must approve that are available on the store that are affected during blackout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Ok I'll ask him to publish it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) I think this little video proves the subtitle language anomilyI renamed the subtitle files from .pol.srt to .eng.srtThe Emby server says 'that's good. The Roku understands those, I will not transcode'The Emby client/Roku sees a bunch characters from UTF-8 Latin set and displys them perfectly with the videoNo log produced TAa-da No frying eggs on processor and 'she who must be obeyed' is happySo I guess the fix is to let the Emby server know that Polish (and a whole bunch of others) do not need transcoding Edited December 18, 2018 by MikeEmbyMike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 That's what the next Roku app beta will be doing. Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Well I'm glad we got there eventually Thank you guys so much for being so responsive If you want me to test anything for you......... give me a shout Dare I ask if you have a date penciled in for the next beta ? (it will save me the bother of renaming many files) Thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Hopefully we can get a new one up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Blimey !!!!! When I said 'responsive', I had no idea just how responsive ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1917 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Apologies we weren't already doing this. Thank you for helping us better the app. If you see any more irregular behavior please do not hesitate to let us know. Your feedback is important so let us know what we are doing both right and wrong. Your media, your way is #1 priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14913 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Hi. There should be a new update for you very soon (if not already). Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thanks Once I install the new beta I will thoroughly test and report back I would probably pay to check with Roku. I believe they will handle any IS/IEC 8859 8-bit character encoding (70+ of them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Loads of testing done with Emby for Roku beta build 131Looking good, thanksMKV and MP4 files now play with perfectly displayed Polish subtitles with no transcodingAny subtitle will cause transcoding with AVI files (to be expected. I don't think there is a solution except 'avoid AVI files')PGS subtitles will always cause transcoding regardless of file type (again, this is to be expected). To get round this I extract the relevant subtitle and add it back as an external srtThanks for the rapid response on this. It saved a lot of file renaming ! One small request though. Being able to select subtitle before starting playback On Roku like I can when starting content using Web Client ? Please feel free to have me test any further software. Edited December 19, 2018 by MikeEmbyMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Thanks for the feedback ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just when you thought I had gone away..........................another subtitle anomaly your guys may wish to investigateI have several MKV files which have both internal ASS 'Forced English' subs and external Polish SRTsThe Emby server will transcode even if 'Polish' (external) or NONE is selectedIt would appear that as long as Emby sees that a MKV file contains a forced subtitle it will transcode whether that sub is being used or notThis is he case whether playing on Roku or Web Clientthree transcode log files attached (I think they will all look pretty much the same) started with English Default Forced subs on.txt started with Polish subs.txt started with subtitles off.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Server log? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14913 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 The item you played is HEVC which it doesn't appear the device supports. That is why it is transcoding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 OK, so the server log was by now, absolutely massive massiveI renamed it to .old, to force a new log to be createdrepeated the Forced Eglish then Polish then None playing of the file in web clientthe attached log was producedIs this sufficient ? embyserver-63680806499.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeEmbyMike 3 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 The item you played is HEVC which it doesn't appear the device supports. That is why it is transcoding. Hold on. From Roku "Roku officially supports the following media formats: Video file types: MP4, MOV, M4V, MKV, WebM Video codecs: H.264/AVC, HEVC/H.265, VP9 Audio file types: AAC, MP3, WMA, WAV (PCM), AIFF, FLAC, ALAC, AC3, E-AC3 Streaming protocols: HLS, Smooth, DASH These have been tested and/or are currently in-use. Other formats or encodings may be supported, but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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