Completed While fast forward or rewind pls show frames previews

[chudak 23]

It'd be very useful if Emby cleints (I am using Roku client) be able to show video frames while fast forward or rewind videos.

It'd be similar like yourtube does it at the moment.

 

Thx

[mastrmind11 717]

It'd be very useful if Emby cleints (I am using Roku client) be able to show video frames while fast forward or rewind videos.

It'd be similar like yourtube does it at the moment.

 

Thx

turn on chapter extraction.

[chudak 23]

turn on chapter extraction.

pls elaborate

 

where?  in client, server ?

[mastrmind11 717]

pls elaborate

 

where?  in client, server ?

server, under transcoding settings I believe... sorry, haven't looked at settings in probably a year.

[chudak 23]

server, under transcoding settings I believe... sorry, haven't looked at settings in probably a year.

 

Oh I see "Allow subtitle extraction on the fly" I have it on and thats not what I am asking - during "fast forward or rewind videos"

[mastrmind11 717]

Subtitles and chapter extraction are not the same thing.

 

Edit, just found it, it's now selectable per library, so drill down into library settings and enable chapter image extraction.

 

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Edited July 17, 2018 by mastrmind11

[speechles 1969]

@@chudak

 

On the roku it is entirely possible...

 

 

You mean this, right? If you install that plugin and let the task create *.bif files for your media it will work that way.

 

 

If you meant on the other clients too.. maybe thats why its a feature request?

 

 

Edit: @@Luke can you get rid of that note that these only work for direct-streaming. They can work for both direct and transcoded media just fine now.

Edited July 18, 2018 by speechles

[chudak 23]

@@chudak

 

On the roku it is entirely possible...

 

 

You mean this, right? If you install that plugin and let the task create *.bif files for your media it will work that way.

 

 

If you meant on the other clients too.. maybe thats why its a feature request?

 

 

Edit: @@Luke can you get rid of that note that these only work for direct-streaming. They can work for both direct and transcoded media just fine now.

 

I am running it now.

It will take maybe 2-3 hours and who knows how much of drive space.

 

How does youtube do it w/o any local tasks?

[speechles 1969]

I am running it now.

It will take maybe 2-3 hours and who knows how much of drive space.

 

How does youtube do it w/o any local tasks?

 

Think of youtube as if it were a person. Youtube would've already run the task, created the .bif files its player depends on, and been ready for roku users. The same way, your emby server will be in say, 2-3 hours. The bif files themselves on average about 2.75MB for every 30 minutes with hd/320 bif files.

[chudak 23]

Think of youtube as if it were a person. Youtube would've already run the task, created the .bif files its player depends on, and been ready for roku users. The same way, your emby server will be in say, 2-3 hours. The bif files themselves on average about 2.75MB for every 30 minutes with hd/320 bif files.

 

yes see your point

 

wonder how much space will it take

[chudak 23]

Think of youtube as if it were a person. Youtube would've already run the task, created the .bif files its player depends on, and been ready for roku users. The same way, your emby server will be in say, 2-3 hours. The bif files themselves on average about 2.75MB for every 30 minutes with hd/320 bif files.

 

Well it ran for like 10+ hours !

And I don't see any thumbnails on Roku client !  Why?

 

 

It seems to be working on iPhone client tho.

 

Also - where are all those files stored?

 

Thx

Edited July 18, 2018 by chudak

[Luke 38532]

In the server's internal metadata folder.

[speechles 1969]

Yep, the metadata/library folder has em. Under each guid folder and simply named index.bif when created.

 

If you wanted them saved, in with the media folders, you unfortunately have to do everything all over again. There is no migration method to easily move them. I should have explained that part. If your library.db becomes corrupt you will lose the bif unless they go with the media files. My bad for not mentioning it sooner.

 

In the settings (configuration) for the roku plugin:

 

[chudak 23]

Yep, the metadata/library folder has em. Under each guid folder and simply named index.bif when created.

 

If you wanted them saved, in with the media folders, you unfortunately have to do everything all over again. There is no migration method to easily move them. I should have explained that part. If your library.db becomes corrupt you will lose the bif unless they go with the media files. My bad for not mentioning it sooner.

 

In the settings (configuration) for the roku plugin:

 

So it does not work

 

Any more suggestions ?

[Luke 38532]

What does not work?

[chudak 23]

What does not work?

 After building all file with Roku Thumbnails plug in, Rolu Emby client does not show thumbnails when fast forward or rewind.

See initial request.

[speechles 1969]

 After building all file with Roku Thumbnails plug in, Rolu Emby client does not show thumbnails when fast forward or rewind.

See initial request.

 

After you installed the roku plugin, you restarted emby server?

 

You also have to restart all the roku apps. Once they restart their session, the server should tell the app that it can serve BIF files (/emby/plugins shows the roku thumbnail present). Once it does this, you may see black squares (placeholder images) instead of actual video thumbnails for some media that isn't recognized yet, or had it's BIF files created. If they were created you would see them show up as the server would be sending them over.

 

If you still see the background image of the video as you fast-forward or rewind after restarting the app then you need to restart the server again possibly. Seeing the background image means the app doesn't think the server has the roku thumbnail plugin installed.

 

These BIF images work for me on both the official app, and within the blue neon app.

 

Edited July 18, 2018 by speechles

[chudak 23]

After you installed the roku plugin, you restarted emby server?

 

You also have to restart all the roku apps. Once they restart their session, the server should tell the app that it can serve BIF files (/emby/plugins shows the roku thumbnail present). Once it does this, you may see black squares (placeholder images) instead of actual video thumbnails for some media that isn't recognized yet, or had it's BIF files created. If they were created you would see them show up as the server would be sending them over.

 

If you still see the background image of the video as you fast-forward or rewind after restarting the app then you need to restart the server again possibly. Seeing the background image means the app doesn't think the server has the roku thumbnail plugin installed.

 

These BIF images work for me on both the official app, and within the blue neon app.

 

 

I did all this and it works on iOS and in browser, but not on Roku ultra box

Edited July 19, 2018 by chudak

[speechles 1969]

I did all this and it works on iOS and in browser, but not on Roku ultra box

 

On iOS and in-browser it can use the mp4/h264 container to pull images from as you watch. So after you watch so much, it has already created the thumbnails to show on the device itself. There is no cache though. So each time you watch this process has to happen freshly.

 

With roku we need BIF sent to the device during playback. The bonus of the server making BIF in advance versus the device itself pulling thumbnails is ...ALL... your media can have BIF files that any user with a roku can take advantage of. Direct, transcoded, doesn't matter. It can do all your videos, not just the special containers that device chose to work with.

 

On iOS its pretty much mp4/h264, nothing else has seek thumbnails.

On browser its both mp4/h264 and webm with vp8/9. Better.. but still not everything has thumbnails.

On roku its everything. More time consuming, space, cpu.. but end result everything has seek thumbnails. :)

 

In the end, it comes down to your setup.. something in it is holding up the app from detecting the roku thumbnail plugin is installed. It might also be something holding it up from sending the BIF file at all too. 

 

Is it possible you can post logs, or some kind of indication that your roku BIF are being created? That the roku BIF files are being requested by the app, and subsequently sent back?

 

After trying to play that exact file shown in the logs as being given BIF (you can check a few minutes after) if they do not work, please post that log file. Redact any information that isnt relevant. What is relevant is the OS type, what other plugins you have installed (which can break the plugins endpoint from reporting any are installed), etc.. ie.. don't show us your IP address, use find/replace and change it to "<my-ip-was-here>". Do the same with other info you redact. Don't just delete things without replacing them with <redacted> or similar, we need to know something was there, just not exactly what was there (hopefully you understand)

Edited July 19, 2018 by speechles

[Luke 38532]

@@chudak, he says it works for him. i just tested this and I was able to see thumbnails. perhaps you can try another video?

[chudak 23]

@@chudak, he says it works for him. i just tested this and I was able to see thumbnails. perhaps you can try another video?

Uninstalled the plug in

Think it’s un useful

[Luke 38532]

If your library scan is still failing then it's probably related to that.

[Sammy 767]

Let me tag on to this if I may..

 

Is it possible to get this in other clients such as nVidia ShieldTV and Tizen? (I see mention of it working on iOS?)

 

Thanks.

 

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[Luke 38532]

We plan to add this to all apps in the future. Thanks.

[Sammy 767]

This is why I like Emby.. Responsiveness. This may take time but eventually it'll be there!

 

Thanks @@Luke!