Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Looking at the "two" log and the server log, it looks like it's trying to burn-in the subrip stream...and I have no clue why. This should be a remux at worst since the subrip stream is selected. The file info dump at the top of the transcode log looks accurate - index 2 is subrip with IsTextSubtitleStream is true and index 3 is PGSSUB with IsTextSubtitleStream is false. I'm wondering if the client or server is either checking the wrong subtitle track for compatibility or assuming that the presence of a PGS sub track in the file despite it not being selected for presentation means all subs should be burned in. Could it be that the entire file is flagged as "unsupported subtitles" because of that one track...just in case someone tries to switch mid-playback? To some extent, I could understand if that was true so that playback doesn't seem to stall (or fail) if someone changes tracks to an unsupported codec, but it seems like counterintuitive behaviour when one of the two subtitle formats is supported and it happens to be the one that's selected for playback. Let me do a multiplex of the same file without the english pgs to see what happend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37092 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Looking at the "two" log and the server log, it looks like it's trying to burn-in the subrip stream...and I have no clue why. This should be a remux at worst since the subrip stream is selected. The file info dump at the top of the transcode log looks accurate - index 2 is subrip with IsTextSubtitleStream is true and index 3 is PGSSUB with IsTextSubtitleStream is false. I'm wondering if the client or server is either checking the wrong subtitle track for compatibility or assuming that the presence of a PGS sub track in the file despite it not being selected for presentation means all subs should be burned in. Could it be that the entire file is flagged as "unsupported subtitles" because of that one track...just in case someone tries to switch mid-playback? To some extent, I could understand if that was true so that playback doesn't seem to stall (or fail) if someone changes tracks to an unsupported codec, but it seems like counterintuitive behaviour when one of the two subtitle formats is supported and it happens to be the one that's selected for playback. Thanks, I was actually curious about this blurb and if it may cause a problem. [matroska,webm @ 00000231bcfbf440] Could not find codec parameters for stream 3 (Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle (pgssub)): unspecified size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37092 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 @, i think you may have also disabled on the fly subtitle extraction in server transcoding settings. That's why SRT is being burned in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 @, i think you may have also disabled on the fly subtitle extraction in server transcoding settings. That's why SRT is being burned in as well. I never enable that setting It is disabled That the setting you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37092 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Exactly, you disabled it. You changed it. It is enabled by default, but you unchecked it. That is why SRT is burning in instead of streaming direct to the clients. Emby Server is doing exactly what you have asked it to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 If for something is useful, here is the spa subtitle extracted from the file Eat Pray Love (2010).esp.srt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Exactly, you disabled it. You changed it. It is enabled by default, but you unchecked it. That is why SRT is burning in instead of streaming direct to the clients. Emby Server is doing exactly what you have asked it to do. Ohh, ok got it, let me check it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) @@Luke noting good happend after check on the fly The second image include the task manager with now 2 ffmeg task and the hard drive where the movie is at 100%. There's is no option to stop the movie, no controls are available (yesterday either) the only way is killing the ffmpeg task... now, two tasks Logs: transcode log.txt server log.txt Edited July 12, 2018 by HRSCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37092 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 The second ffmpeg is to extract the subtitles. It appears this is also very slow on your system. We are looking into better techniques to resolve this for a future update. For now the best workaround is external subtitles. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) The second ffmpeg is to extract the subtitles. It appears this is also very slow on your system. We are looking into better techniques to resolve this for a future update. For now the best workaround is external subtitles. Thanks. I almost finish on repack with srt only.. i have a suspect that maybe the chapters ae making some mess. I'm testing all options that i can. I updated you after testing with srt and chapters and without chapters Thanks PS: Do i leave check on the fly subs in the server? Edited July 12, 2018 by HRSCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 The second ffmpeg is to extract the subtitles. It appears this is also very slow on your system. We are looking into better techniques to resolve this for a future update. For now the best workaround is external subtitles. Thanks. Ok @@Luke I found that in the PC now it can play the movie using the Intel Quick Sync ON. but with some issues using the new repack MKV without english subs Settings: Media info of the repack: Complete name : K:\DRAMA-1\Eat Pray Love (2010).mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 27.2 GiB Duration : 2 h 25 min Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 26.8 Mb/s Encoded date : UTC 2018-07-12 14:14:04 Writing application : mkvmerge v24.0.0 ('Beyond The Pale') 64-bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, RefFrames : 2 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 2 h 25 min Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 24.0 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.482 Stream size : 24.4 GiB (90%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Format profile : MA / Core Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 2 h 25 min Bit rate mode : Variable / Constant Bit rate : 2 792 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy Stream size : 2.84 GiB (10%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text ID : 3 Format : UTF-8 Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8 Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Duration : 2 h 18 min Bit rate : 54 b/s Count of elements : 1635 Stream size : 55.3 KiB (0%) Language : Spanish Default : Yes Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:Plan B 00:10:37.845 : en:The Bookstore 00:18:37.366 : en:The Divorce 00:31:48.656 : en:Italy - Eat 00:40:06.237 : en:Spagetti 00:47:12.704 : en:Pizza 00:56:22.629 : en:Thanksgiving Dinner 01:03:20.796 : en:India - Pray 01:13:44.211 : en:Great Meditation 01:19:20.964 : en:Arranged Marriage 01:25:30.959 : en:Richards Story 01:38:32.948 : en:Bali - Love 01:44:07.991 : en:Chance Meeting 01:52:44.841 : en:Hangover Cure 02:02:44.273 : en:Hanging Out Together 02:12:55.008 : en:Giving Up --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logs: one.txt two.txt three.txt server.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) That image issues are random. I check the movie with VLC and MPC an it is fine UPDATE EDIT: Happends the same without acceleration. HOWEVER, The subtitles are not displaying in both settings. With on the fly unchecked can't play. Edited July 12, 2018 by HRSCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 @@Luke Why the DTS-MA 5.1 audio codec is transcoded to mp3? Confirmed, no subtitles are showing, they are marked how default to show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 last server log.txt transdode.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37092 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Web browsers don't support dts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Web browsers don't support dts. Thank you for the quisk answer OK UPDATE FROM ROKU 4 ULTRA It is working now!!!! Logs roku1.txt roku2.txt lastet server.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 @@Luke This is my last update about this: With the settings: Allow subtitle extraction on the fly Roku can play any pgs subtitle and the wait time is around 8-10 seconds to start BUT it can't show ANY .SRT subtitle, I mean, ANY. ( I test with 6 more files and it is the same.) Without the check it can't play nothing at all. However the server said that is direct playing but roku device never start to play. The issue is there, and this happend with the PC in the same way (documented with logs and captures above) This is my final log of the Roku and the Server at the time of play one movie that contain one srt subtitle and another in pgs format. Seems the systme can handle or know what format of subtitle is that the APP is calling for do what the server needs to do according of the type of subtitle. This not happend to me with direct play using Android TV APP. I wait for any fix... or misconfig that i can have I'm tired to test without any success. Thanks. log roku with 2 subs.txt server log.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Waldonnis 148 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Thanks, I was actually curious about this blurb and if it may cause a problem. [matroska,webm @ 00000231bcfbf440] Could not find codec parameters for stream 3 (Subtitle: hdmv_pgs_subtitle (pgssub)): unspecified size Ah, hmm, not that I know of, but there may be something with how the track was constructed. If there are problems with timing or overlapping, though, it may require -fix_sub_duration (has some drawbacks, so check the docs). I've never run across problems like that and don't deal with PGS subs too often, though, so there may be some other reason for it aside from the situation mentioned in the ffmpeg docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) I leave here the srt sub of that file, there's not overlapping in timing. I check it with SubtittleEdit soft. Allowing subs on the fly: You can wach the movie on Roku. In the PC too but with many issues in the picture. However, in that way you CAN'T see the .srt... they just are not displaying. BUT any king of PGS has no problems. Plus, the ffmpeg doesn't crash. Not allowing subs on the fly is the opposite. Can see the srt subtitles after some minutes waiting and the hard drive working like crazy. PGS doesn't display in any way. Most of the tie is impossible that the movie start to play, no matter if the server says that is direct playing, is not. Happend the same with Roku (4 ULTRA) and with Chrome web browser. I test other files of my collection and the situation is the same. PLUS... IF the MKV movie container have 1 srt sub and 1 pgs, the server don't know what sub is the default. For me, it is a server side problem since Chrome is showing the same issue. Thanks. EDIT: Btw i do the ocr to the pgs file of that movie too with SubtitleEdit, I don't find nothing wrong. Edited July 12, 2018 by HRSCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldonnis 148 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I leave here the srt sub of that file, there's not overlapping in timing. I check it with SubtittleEdit soft. EDIT: Btw i do the ocr to the pgs file of that movie too with SubtitleEdit, I don't find nothing wrong. Yeah, I meant with the PGS. It's not that there's a timing issue in the stream, but rather that ffmpeg's rendering/representation of them may get weird if non-text subtitle streams are constructed in certain ways. Subtitle editors and disc players know how to deal with these types of variations already, but they're more specialised than ffmpeg in that regard. Basically, even if the subtitle stream is within spec, that doesn't mean ffmpeg always knows how to handle it properly (there's a lot of stuff that ffmpeg doesn't do or doesn't do well, actually). The message from ffmpeg about stream 3 implies that something about the stream is different than what ffmpeg knows about or is capable of dealing with. Doesn't mean the subtitle stream is messed up...just that ffmpeg probably hasn't been coded to identify/handle that specific situation properly yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snodrog742 31 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Allowing subs on the fly: You can wach the movie on Roku. In the PC too but with many issues in the picture. @@Waldonnis his picture kind of does what mine is doing. I wonder if subtitles is a factor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) Yeah, I meant with the PGS. It's not that there's a timing issue in the stream, but rather that ffmpeg's rendering/representation of them may get weird if non-text subtitle streams are constructed in certain ways. Subtitle editors and disc players know how to deal with these types of variations already, but they're more specialised than ffmpeg in that regard. Basically, even if the subtitle stream is within spec, that doesn't mean ffmpeg always knows how to handle it properly (there's a lot of stuff that ffmpeg doesn't do or doesn't do well, actually). The message from ffmpeg about stream 3 implies that something about the stream is different than what ffmpeg knows about or is capable of dealing with. Doesn't mean the subtitle stream is messed up...just that ffmpeg probably hasn't been coded to identify/handle that specific situation properly yet. Thank you for your long and clear explanation. So well... houston, we have a problem, ffmpeg missing one screw Edited July 12, 2018 by HRSCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs 300 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Hi @@Luke Do you have some news about this? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37092 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 It appears the subtitle extraction is very slow on your system. We are looking into alternative techniques to improve this for a future update. For now the best workaround is external subtitles. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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