Emby server/client - ReplayGain or R128 volume normalization support for music

[Espen JQ 31]

 @@Luke stated in a previous post (https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/49933-replaygain-music-support/) adding support for this could easily be done for at least the theater client seeing as the player used already supports replaygain.

 

I'm making this feature request in hopes that this support is added, as I have no dev experience myself

[cncb 17]

Was this ever added for any clients?

[Luke 38520]

It's a great idea for the future. thanks !

[Richard Branches 252]

Since my ReplayGain topic was marked as "duplicate", I'm gonna add my comment over here:

 

"Just like all the info added to the music library by the music plugins after the scanning process is completed, ReplayGain should also be added to the database, avoiding the hassle of adding the information to the id3 tag by ourselves, keeping the files untouched. A ReplayGain setting should also be added to all apps, in case we don't want to use the feature at any given moment."

 

Thanks.

[Midtempo 0]

Unfortunately, it looks like Luke said we could easily add Replaygin back in 2017.  And yet, the ReplayGain option has not been implemented:

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/49933-replaygain-music-support/&tab=comments#comment-476419

If Foobar2000 had a media server that could be used away from home, I would use that instead of Emby for music.  Foobar2000 has good ReplayGain support.  Alas, Foobar2000 can only run an FTP server for music.  I refuse to allow use of an FTP server, which is inherently insecure, outside of my home.

A quick search on Plex about this topic reveals that they have a "volume leveling" feature which might work like ReplayGain.  As much as I like Emby, I might have to switch to Plex if that's the case.  I've never used Plex though.

[Espen JQ 31]

52 minutes ago, Midtempo said:

Unfortunately, it looks like Luke said we could easily add Replaygin back in 2017.  And yet, the ReplayGain option has not been implemented:

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/49933-replaygain-music-support/&tab=comments#comment-476419

If Foobar2000 had a media server that could be used away from home, I would use that instead of Emby for music.  Foobar2000 has good ReplayGain support.  Alas, Foobar2000 can only run an FTP server for music.  I refuse to allow use of an FTP server, which is inherently insecure, outside of my home.

A quick search on Plex about this topic reveals that they have a "volume leveling" feature which might work like ReplayGain.  As much as I like Emby, I might have to switch to Plex if that's the case.  I've never used Plex though.

Plex works like a charm for music from a remote location using the plexamp app on android or windows machines. Volumeleveling along with other neat features are also very well implemented.

I have long since abandoned Emby in favor for Plex with a plexpass and I highly recommended it!

 

*Edit: Typos 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Espen JQ

[Richard Branches 252]

1 hour ago, Espen JQ said:

Plex works like a charm for music from a remote location using the plexamp app on android or windows machines. Volumeleveling along with other neat features are also very well implemented.

I have long since abandoned Emby in favor for Plex with a plexpass and I highly recommended it!

 

*Edit: Typos 

I requested some plexamp features to Emby (mobile data quality setting, internal equalizer support, replaygain), I just hope it doesn't take too long for Emby devs to implement them, I believe in them!

[Lighthouse 2]

This is really needed. I have been listening to music via Emby and realized Emby does not have this feature.

 

I think if this is added among with albums via composer Emby is pretty much feature complete for music at least.

[dcpete 8]

I have recently started listening to music with Emby and noticed it didn't support this feature.  That's too bad, it is really nice if implemented.

[Bradum 10]

On 7/19/2021 at 3:38 PM, dcpete said:

I have recently started listening to music with Emby and noticed it didn't support this feature.  That's too bad, it is really nice if implemented.

Yeah. It makes it really hard to listen to playlists across multiple albums without constantly having to adjust volume. Would be great to see this feature added, as well as separate audio playback settings for music vs video.

[Slim1999 1]

Hi,

I hope you will consider adding this feature !

Edited March 9, 2023 by Slim1999

[PuffyToesToo 332]

On 4/27/2022 at 9:46 PM, Bradum said:

Yeah. It makes it really hard to listen to playlists across multiple albums without constantly having to adjust volume. Would be great to see this feature added, as well as separate audio playback settings for music vs video.

Regarding video leveling:

 

 

[ryancey 28]

@LukeAny update about this feature request?

Thanks

[Luke 38520]

1 minute ago, ryancey said:

@LukeAny update about this feature request?

Thanks

HI, not yet, sorry.

[Crush420 5]

Would love to see this happen.  I have a TV with random movies going almost 24/7, and would b nice for them to have the same volume.

Thanks

[Vicpa 602]

+1

[himisk71 2]

+1

[sydlexius 253]

On 3/8/2024 at 3:01 AM, himisk71 said:

+1

You may want to "like" the first post, since that's one of the metrics that gets used.

[ryancey 28]

Any plan to get this going sooner or later? It unfortunately makes Emby a pain to use when hosting a party or trying to music-nap (yeah that's a thing ), constantely having the phone or remote in hand to adjust the volume when a loud track starts playing.

Edited June 3 by ryancey

[PuffyToesToo 332]

4 hours ago, ryancey said:

Any plan to get this going sooner or later? It unfortunately makes Emby a pain to use when hosting a party or trying to music-nap (yeah that's a thing ), constantely having the phone or remote in hand to adjust the volume when a loud track starts playing.

For music, I always use MP3gain. There is not really an effective equivalent for video that I have found works as well.

[Vicpa 602]

3 hours ago, PuffyToesToo said:

For music, I always use MP3gain. There is not really an effective equivalent for video that I have found works as well.

Hi

There are pros and cons to any tool or approach. I am not that familiar with MP3gain but am sure the objective is the same normalize audio volume. 

I tried replay gain first, because it doesn't physically alter the volume of the track. The tools "processes" each track and writes 4 metadata tags. It can then either be turned off or on easily.

So it relies on the player to adjust .

For the bulk processing of my music library I used rsgain. (I spent alot of time making sure that the tool, did and does not "mess up" my existing tags}

See " ReplayGain 2.0 tagging utility (github.com)". 

Musicbrainz's Picard has a plugin based on the same tool.

@PuffyToesToo I have no clue which is a better algorithm and as long as it can be turned off or on,  Either  would be an improvement.

 

Yo @Lukebelow is a Standard implementation.  The drop down list has three mode options None, Album or Track. 

 

Works quite well with my music library

[ryancey 28]

On 6/3/2024 at 2:42 PM, PuffyToesToo said:

For music, I always use MP3gain. There is not really an effective equivalent for video that I have found works as well.

Thanks but unfortunately most of my lib is FLAC, seems like MP3Gain doesn't support it

Anyway the idea to apply the gain to the file instead of letting the player handling it from the tags is indeed a solution, but kind of a workaround as you have to do it for every new music files

(to be clear I don't expect Emby to analyze my tracks, only to apply existing ReplayGain information)

[PuffyToesToo 332]

On 6/10/2024 at 5:50 PM, ryancey said:

Thanks but unfortunately most of my lib is FLAC, seems like MP3Gain doesn't support it

Anyway the idea to apply the gain to the file instead of letting the player handling it from the tags is indeed a solution, but kind of a workaround as you have to do it for every new music files

(to be clear I don't expect Emby to analyze my tracks, only to apply existing ReplayGain information)

I completely agree with this, and that was the reason for my req a couple years back. The reason I do not use my FLAC/WAV is this exact reason. I would love if they could do this for all audio - TV, Movie, Music. 

[ebr 15365]

1 hour ago, PuffyToesToo said:

I would love if they could do this for all audio - TV, Movie, Music. 

In the case of video/movie soundtracks, most of them are compressed/encoded formats such as Dolby (all flavors) and DTS with the decoding being done by outboard equipment so volume adjustments aren't possible.

[ryancey 28]

And for music? Any plan?

Another case I experienced is when you are not able to adjust the volume (in the shower, doing work with busy hands, etc) and the speaker suddendly shouts

I'd really like this to be a concern for the Emby team, it's been a while, the tech is well-known, this issue has been solved since decades, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's a major pain point for music-centric users

Thanks a lot