Serving pumping out live TV at 20Mbps despite streaming setting of 4Mbps

[Happy2Play 8351]

Looks like plex is getting a lot of privacy info.  Google metrics.plex.tv

[naeonline 27]

almost sounds like you did a loopback for metrics.plex.tv to kill any data collection by plex and it's interpreting your localhost or a local system as "metrics.plex.tv".

[gene0915 37]

Do you connect to your server using teamviewer by chance?

What is in your hosts file?

 

Yes I do. Host file only has 1 entry. 127.0.0.1 metrics.plex.tv

[Luke 37231]

oh well that explains it. how did that get there? who is messing with your hosts file?

[gene0915 37]

oh well that explains it. how did that get there? who is messing with your hosts file?

 

I put that in my host file but even so, why in the world (how in the world) is Plex requesting a stream from HDHR and why does it want it pumped to metrics.plex.tv (which is looped back to me)?

[Luke 37231]

I put that in my host file but even so, why in the world (how in the world) is Plex requesting a stream from HDHR and why does it want it pumped to metrics.plex.tv (which is looped back to me)?

 

It's not. Do you understand the implications of the host file change or was this just a hack that you found somewhere? In your screenshots above, anywhere it says metrics.plex.tv, just pretend it is 127.0.0.1.

[Happy2Play 8351]

Use a differene address in your host file.  Like 127.0.0.2 suggested here.

[Happy2Play 8351]

So are/where you stream something at the same time as your brother, if "metrics.plex.tv" equal localhost?

Edited October 9, 2017 by Happy2Play

[gene0915 37]

So are/where you stream something at the same time as your brother, if "metrics.plex.tv" equal localhost?

 

Nope. Nobody else was streaming live TV from Emby other than my brother. This is an absolute fact.

[Luke 37231]

remember that the data is first coming from your hdhr to emby server, and those are two different network devices so that's going to show up in these charts.

[gene0915 37]

It's not. Do you understand the implications of the host file change or was this just a hack that you found somewhere? In your screenshots above, anywhere it says metrics.plex.tv, just pretend it is 127.0.0.1.

 

From my understanding, if application X wants to phone home to abc.domain.com and I edit my host file and add: 127.0.0.1 abc.domain.com, any apps that want to call home to that domain will be looped back to my PC and not be able to reach their destination. It doesn't prevent the app from trying, it's that it just won't get anywhere. (Is my understanding wrong?)

 

My big question though, why is Plex (or something else) asking Emby to serve up a TV stream and why is it trying to get pumped back to metrics.plex.tv?

[Luke 37231]

My big question though, why is Plex (or something else) asking Emby to serve up a TV stream and why is it trying to get pumped back to metrics.plex.tv?

 

What I am trying to tell you is that it's not. It is internal Emby Server communication but is being displayed as metrics.plex.tv due to your hosts file change.

[gene0915 37]

remember that the data is first coming from your hdhr to emby server, and those are two different network devices so that's going to show up in these charts.

 

Ok, so my brother is requesting Emby to serve up a TV stream. This stream comes from the HDHR and gets sent out to his IP address (which is clearly shown and I understand that). I just can't wrap my head around why a 2nd stream is getting pulled it from the HDHR and being sent out to metrics.plex.tv. What does Plex have to do with Emby serving up a stream from my HDHR? (Am I not seeing the forest for the trees here?) And why is that metrics.plex.tv address listed for java, sonarr, radarr, nzbget?

[Luke 37231]

Ok, so my brother is requesting Emby to serve up a TV stream. This stream comes from the HDHR and gets sent out to his IP address (which is clearly shown and I understand that). I just can't wrap my head around why a 2nd stream is getting pulled it from the HDHR and being sent out to metrics.plex.tv. What does Plex have to do with Emby serving up a stream from my HDHR? (Am I not seeing the forest for the trees here?) And why is that metrics.plex.tv address listed for java, sonarr, radarr, nzbget?

 

See post #37. It sounds like you do not fully understand the host file change, sorry.

[gene0915 37]

What I am trying to tell you is that it's not. It is internal Emby Server communication but is being displayed as metrics.plex.tv due to your hosts file change.

 

I think I'm on the same page now. So ANYTHING that wants to talk to itself will show up as going to metrics.plex.tv. If so, that explains sonarr, radarr, nzbdrone. DUH.

[Luke 37231]

yup.

[gene0915 37]

See post #37. It sounds like you do not fully understand the host file change, sorry.

 

You're right, guess I don't fully understand that host file. So back to my original problem now, ..... why is my brother getting constant buffers when streaming via Emby?

 

WOW, what a rabbit hole of ignorance.....on my side. Sorry everyone.

[Luke 37231]

can you  have him try the web app with chrome to compare? thanks.

[Happy2Play 8351]

Also is his Roku wired or wireless?

[gene0915 37]

can you  have him try the web app with chrome to compare? thanks.

 

Results were practically the same, crappy.

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Edited October 9, 2017 by Happy2Play
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[Luke 37231]

ok, try asking him to drop his in-app bitrate setting even lower. Try 2mbps.

[Happy2Play 8351]

This is a old ffmpeg.

C:\Users\server\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\ffmpeg\20160410

Can you shut down server delete this folder and any other folder in FFMPEG directory and restart server to get newer version.

[gene0915 37]

ok, try asking him to drop his in-app bitrate setting even lower. Try 2mbps.

 

I think he had enough fun for tonight and went to bed. I'll ask him to try that out and will report back tomorrow.

[gene0915 37]

This is a old ffmpeg.

C:\Users\server\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\ffmpeg\20160410

Can you shut down server delete this folder and any other folder in FFMPEG directory and restart server to get newer version.

 

One step ahead of ya .... I moved the cache folder to an SSD and same problem.

 

But now, I'm not so sure it's an Emby problem after all. He said that he switched over to watching Plex as he was drifting off to sleep and called me 1 last time to tell me that even with Plex, he's getting lots of buffering. I'll go ahead and mark this as solved because I don't think it's an Emby specific issue.

 

Sorry to waste everone's time.