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#1 kanipek OFFLINE  

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 06:47 PM

To get legacy HDHomeRun Units (HDHR-US, HDHR3-US etc.) to work within Emby do the following:

 

1 - Minimum firmware required is: 20161117 latest is always best. Find it here: https://www.silicond...port/downloads/

 

2 - Install the HDHomeRun software on your system.

   - I chose "Default" BDA compatibility mode

   - Perform a channel scan from within the HDHomeRun software, before beginning the scan use the pull down menu to select the legacy tuner.

   - When the scan is complete click "Apply" this will generate a new "Digital Cable.xml" or "Digital Antenna.xml" and send the data to Silicondust for use by the tuners.

 

3 - Open the Emby (v3.2.7 and later) dashboard - There is currently no automatic discovery so you will have to set it up by entering the IP address on the tuner setup page (Manage Server->Live TV->+Add).

   - Check "Enable this tuner" - on the Add Tuner page

   - Click "Save" - Once you click save Emby should kick off a "Refresh Guide" task. Let it complete.

   - Map the new - un-mapped channels under Live TV->Guide Providers - this will kick off another "Refresh Guide" task, let it complete.

 

4 - Followed all the instructions but get a black screen or maybe spinning circle when tuning? Try allowing UDP:// through the firewall for the tuner connection(s).

 

That is it.

 

Notes:

There is currently no ability that I know of to disable any channel on these units. If I am wrong in that assumption please let everyone know how you did it.

 

For me I only had to map a few channels 15+/-. The rest of the channels (this is a guess on my part) were previously mapped.

 

You MUST install the HDHomeRun software and do a fresh scan for it all to work.

 

Post from Silcondust that might be helpful:

https://forum.silico...hp?f=92&t=43986

 

I compiled this info from several posts/users here on the forum. My thanks to all of them.

 

Big thanks to @sle118 for getting this ball rolling and @Luke for making it happen, I am sure others were helpful too - Great, fast work guys!


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 10:50 AM

Good guide. Thanks for putting it together.  I just got the legacy system up and running as well.

 

I would add to #2 that this can only be done in Windows at the moment.  Not sure about MacOS  as I don't have one to test.  My server system is all Linux and even though I had a full TVHeadend install running/working, the fact that I had to scan in Windows had me scratching my head for a couple of days.

 

I would also like the ability to disable channels as there are a few that I pick up that I just don't care to see.

 

ETA:

 

I created a feature request for this.  Who knows... maybe it will show up.


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 12:57 PM

how are you getting the hdhr-us (dual) orginal tuner to work. from what i have read in the forum maybe only the ones that support DLNA are working?



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Posted 27 September 2017 - 01:13 PM

how are you getting the hdhr-us (dual) orginal tuner to work. from what i have read in the forum maybe only the ones that support DLNA are working?

 

No, the legacy tuners are supported now just the same.



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Posted 27 September 2017 - 02:09 PM

how are you getting the hdhr-us (dual) orginal tuner to work. from what i have read in the forum maybe only the ones that support DLNA are working?

 

If you follow the steps in post #1 they will work in Emby. You have to do all of the steps to make them work. The channel scan within the HDHomeRun Setup software is critical and must be performed for each HDHomeRun you wish to use in Emby. It has to be done from the setup software there is no capability to scan those units from the webpage gui. There is currently no channel management capability in Emby or the HDHomeRun Setup software for that matter. So you are going to see ALL the channels available on those tuners - and in my experience you are going to see them duplicating channels that are already in the guide seems to be a limitation of these older units. If you have a number of unwanted channels appearing in your guide you can to some pseudo channel management by using tags to remove those from the guide something like CHANNEL_EXCLUDE - it's not the easiest thing to do but it does work.

 

Hope this helps.


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 06:09 PM

No, the legacy tuners are supported now just the same.

ok thank you. i followed all the steps listed here to get it going. I have the other thread open for help with my issue. 



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 06:30 AM

Yup.  They work fine.

 

I've been using them for a several months now.  You just have to make sure to check all the boxes.



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 09:13 AM

could you post screenshots of the way you settings look like?

i did what was suggested and scanned the channels before i added it to emby. emby seens the channels. It just cant display the video. it just shows a spinning circle. 

 

i think it some sort of codec/transcoding issue.



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 11:20 AM

So you have a guide?  And it has information populated in it?

 

But when you try to play something, it just never plays?

 

What device are you trying to play on?  Have you just tried using the web application?

 

You may want to check out How to Report a Problem with some more details if it's really a playback issue.



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Posted 28 September 2017 - 12:41 PM

Yes used the web app. The theater and android apps. Had to use the free 1 minute play still nothing in all 3. Also tried kodi saw the channel listing when I went intp the emby app in kodi

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:31 PM

To clarify. Yes emby sees the channels and the guide maps. I just can't seem to start the stream. The steam works using the hdhomerun and vlc applications

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 08:32 AM

To clarify. Yes emby sees the channels and the guide maps. I just can't seem to start the stream. The steam works using the hdhomerun and vlc applications

 

What do you see in the server dashboard when attempting to stream a channel? - When I was sorting this out on my Shield the dashboard showed whatever channel I was trying to watch as actually streaming to the device, finally got it working by using the Direct Streaming option, and using VLC for playback and a lot of assistance from @ebr & @Luke. If you are not seeing anything in the web app your issue might be different from mine.

 

What types of devices are you trying to watch on? 

 

Reboot all of your hardware - tuners, client devices, server, router, network switches/hubs. Verify your firewall rules are set up - maybe even temporarily disable it.



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:20 PM

i am not sure where to look in the dashboard. 

when i look while i am trying to play live tv . the main page of the dashbord doesnt really update.

 

all my firewalls are off

i have tried rebooting the hdhomerun. i tried running the emby server in a different vm with a different OS

 

i can use the hdhomerun setup program and stream to vlc. 

 

how do you use vlc and emby?

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:54 PM

 went back and tested my music library and it immediately shows up that its playing. However for the live tv the dashboard does not update with anything



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:09 PM

Have you tried the new release of the server that went out today?



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:24 PM

yes just did

no diff :-(



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:48 PM

i am not sure where to look in the dashboard. 

when i look while i am trying to play live tv . the main page of the dashbord doesnt really update.

 

all my firewalls are off

i have tried rebooting the hdhomerun. i tried running the emby server in a different vm with a different OS

 

i can use the hdhomerun setup program and stream to vlc. 

 

how do you use vlc and emby

On the first page of the dashboard you should a list or what I would call tiles/thumbnails of what client is connected and what they are playing and how it is being played - direct play or transcode etc.

 

I guess I should have asked you what you clients you are attempting to playback on - in Emby for android TV if you go into options near the bottom you will see a checkbox to use VLC to play-- You have yo install VLC from the play store to have it work.

 

I'll check back later to see if you have made any progress.



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:20 PM

on the first page when i looked while playing a music file I saw it update and show up as playing and stopped playing depending on what I was doing. However when I clicked on a live tv channel the space never changed. Its like it was not being told to start. 

 

I am using emby in my chrome browser. I also used it installed on my android tablet and I installed the android theater app in my windows 10 device. All do the same thing. i have not seen a setting in emby anywhere (that I have used) that says play to vlc

On the first page of the dashboard you should a list or what I would call tiles/thumbnails of what client is connected and what they are playing and how it is being played - direct play or transcode etc.

 

I guess I should have asked you what you clients you are attempting to playback on - in Emby for android TV if you go into options near the bottom you will see a checkbox to use VLC to play-- You have yo install VLC from the play store to have it work.

 

I'll check back later to see if you have made any progress.



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:39 PM

on the first page when i looked while playing a music file I saw it update and show up as playing and stopped playing depending on what I was doing. However when I clicked on a live tv channel the space never changed. Its like it was not being told to start. 

 

I am using emby in my chrome browser. I also used it installed on my android tablet and I installed the android theater app in my windows 10 device. All do the same thing. i have not seen a setting in emby anywhere (that I have used) that says play to vlc

 

Okay so you are looking in the right place that is good.

 

You have done the channel scan in the HDHomeRun software? Added the tuners under Live TV in Emby and mapped guide data to those tuners/channels?

 

Are you getting any logs showing something is trying to stream/play when you are trying to play a channel - they would be in the log directory -- ffmpeg-transcode... or anything similar?

 

These are the old original dual tuner units (white) correct? Firmware version? HDHomeRun software version?

 

Using Emby for Android TV - not Emby for Android there is an option to use VLC to play live tv. Emby for Android has a similar setting - Enable external video players -- but again you have to have a player like VLC loaded on the device. Not sure about Emby Theater but I don't think it has this setting currently.


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:49 PM

my emby logs are in this thread

https://emby.media/c...t-with-live-tv/

 

emby detected the hdhomerun and added it. i added xmltv and i can see the channels in it and mapped correctly.  when i go to stream live tv i see the channels/schedule etc and thats what i click on to start playing the stream when nothing seems to happen. 

 

these are the orginal tuners hdhr-us dual/white with a 100 mbps network jack. 

 

the firmware is 20170815

the application that i have used to watch the live stream is the hdhomerun setup app that does the scanning etc. when i click on a channel it detects it pulls it up in vlc player installed (windows 10)

 

the hdhomerun app that is also installed (not the setup but the viewer) does not work. it can see the channels but nothing plays. i thought that limitation of the hdhr app since it only supports newer devices. 







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