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ShoutingMan

I'm requesting a feature addition to Emby Theater: a way to change the vertical positioning of subtitles in Emby Theater.

I want to raise them up about one line height.

I'm comparing native playback of subtitled movies as discs in PowerDVD to MKV in Emby Theater. Emby theater positions the subtitles significantly lower in the screen than the disc playback does, about one full line lower. This worsens the overall experience. For a letterboxed movie like "Amelie", the subtitles fall across the letterbox boundary in Emby while they're within the movie frame natively. And in all cases (also seen in a 1.85 movie like "Kiki's Delivery Service") the subtitles are too close to the bottom of the screen, farther from the natural viewing location, making it a bit harder to read and watch simultaneously.

 

If subtitle height can't be made a user preference, based on my sampling of four or five foreign language films, subs should be about one line height higher to match native Blu-ray playback. The Emby Theater setting is too low, from my small sampling.

Thanks :)

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ShoutingMan

As of Emby Theater 2.7.2 subtitles are better positioned, moved higher and much more closely emulating the blu-ray positions.

 

I did a quick comparison to Akira, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, and Pan's Labyrinth played off my discs by PowerDVD 16 to how ET 2.7.2 plays the MKVs.

 

Thanks!

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Thanks for the feedback. Subtitle settings are planned for a future update.

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Gkfisher

Sad that a basic feature like subtitle placement flexibility is missing.  I will be a premium member when this is a basic feature.  It basically ruins any ability to use a 2:35 screen setup.  Sigh... back to KODI.

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He needs placement, I think, not size but also I think most of the players should already be ensuring that the subs are within the video frame - at least I know that is the case for Android TV.

 

To which app are you referring?

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Luke -

 

Thanks for the reply... but did you read what I posted?  I didn't say "subtitles are too small".  I said that I needed to move the position of subtitles (which is the entire point of this feature request).  When using a 2:35:1 screen setup the subtitles must be placed in the video segment.  I have tried using the EMBY player for the NVIDIA Shield as well as other apps and the subtitles for SRT format do not show up in the video.  My SRT subtitles are very basic and don't contain any additional details that would be moving them.  I can use KODI to properly place subtitles... but I would LOVE to just use the native EMBY players.

 

Can I pay you $150 bucks to fix this?  I can't image it's more than 8-12 hours of development for a simple tweak to position subtitles by user selection of a certain pixel offset.  

 

Or if you can tell me why my SRT subtitles are NOT positioning themselves in the video then I'll also become a lifetime premium member.  Money isn't an issue.  It's subtitle placement that's driving me crazy.

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Or if you can tell me why my SRT subtitles are NOT positioning themselves in the video

Are you referring to positioning values embedded in the srt?

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Gkfisher

Luke -

 

No. I’m not trying to embed position info in the SRT.

 

I am using the latest Emby app on Android TV (nvidia Shield). My SRT file has no embedded positioning. As I understand it’s up the the player to position. Based on other comments I thought somebody was saying that the subtitles should already be appearing within the video frame. As you can see from the screenshot they appear very awkwardly just below the video frame with almost no distance from the image. This seems like the worst possible location. Moving them up so they’re clearly in the video frame would allow any screen set up to benefit from subtitle positioning.

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SRT contents (subset of it):

 

1
00:01:08,944 --> 00:01:10,653
Asgard's forces are upon us.
 
2
00:01:37,389 --> 00:01:39,682
Send in the Kursed!
 
3
00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:57,635
Their deaths will mean our survival.
 
4
00:02:59,096 --> 00:03:01,097
This war is far from over.
 
5
00:23:00,546 --> 00:23:02,797
The Aether awakens us.
 
6
00:23:02,965 --> 00:23:06,426
The Convergence returns.
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Gkfisher

So I'm not sure what else would be defining the subtitle position other than the player itself.  If using KODI and a direct link to EMBY via KODI, I can properly position the subtitles.... but would much rather use a native application.  Subtitle placement is the same in the iPhone app and Windows Theater application (i.e. the subtitles are in the black bar space to varying degree)

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In EMBY theater on the Windows app it's better positioned.... but doesn't work for me because my screen setup is 2:35:1.  See here:

 

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In any event; I'll drop $120 or whatever it is on a lifetime membership if you'all code it to be user defined in the Andorid TV app.  Seems like an easy feature.

 

Thanks!

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Hi.  What version of the Android TV app are you using?  I was almost positive Exo was ensuring they were in the video frame as others have actually complained about this and want them moved out of it.  I understand why you want them in it with a CIH 2.35 setup.

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ShoutingMan

Conventionally — every dvd and blu-ray — subtitles are within the video frame. That should continue to be the case. I thought that was the case as of late last year.

 

I hope this isn’t being reverted back to how it was before I made this request. :)

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