RanmaCanada 359 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I've had this problem before and it is a pain in the butt to deal with when Emby does something completely stupid and merges extras with the episodes they are for. I am sick and tired of this constantly breaking and having to go in and split versions apart, especially after the files are named properly. My current example is for Rick and Morty Rick.and.Morty.S06E03.Bethic.Twinstinct <--named correctly Rick.and.Morty.S00E613.Anatomy.of.a.Scene.Bethic.Twinstinct <--should be correct name as S00 is Extras and E6xx is for season 6 Rick.and.Morty.S00E623.Inside.Bethic.Twinstinct <-- same as above. S00 is for extras and E6xx is for season 6 All got tied into S06E03 and every other episode for this season had the same thing if there were any extras for them. Why in the heck is this happening still? How do I remove this incredibly stupid option that screws up everything as users are no where near smart enough to understand that they need to pick a version of the show that they want to watch. Why do I still have to go through my shows and ensure that the server hasn't done something so infuriatingly stupid. To top it off, the extras are even in an Extras folder so there is absolutely no reason for them to be merging them into 1 option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37233 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 HI, just so we're clear, this naming: S00E613 Is going to result in season 0, episode # 613. That's strange that they got grouped though. The only reason why that could happen is if they all got the same episode number somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3330 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, RanmaCanada said: Rick.and.Morty.S06E03.Bethic.Twinstinct <--named correctly Rick.and.Morty.S00E613.Anatomy.of.a.Scene.Bethic.Twinstinct <--should be correct name as S00 is Extras and E6xx is for season 6 Rick.and.Morty.S00E623.Inside.Bethic.Twinstinct <-- same as above. S00 is for extras and E6xx is for season 6 To top it off, the extras are even in an Extras folder And if you put those episodes into Season 0 instead of Extras folder (as the naming you're using is actually used for Specials, not extras), does same (merging) occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanmaCanada 359 Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 I have split them apart and they are showing up in the "specials" folder and in the season folder still. They have not merged, but they are also not respecting their naming and are instead stealing the name from the episode they think they are. The naming format I've used is what I use for anime for NC openings and endings, as well as other "extras" and my anime library had no problems respecting this (I haven't checked it since this has happened so I probably should). I've talked about it before where we found the solution for anime extras like openings and closings was to use S00Exxx for openings and endings and what not, where xxx would be the season in the hundreds and the number of extras would be the rest, so opening for season 1 would be S00E100 and so on. I have not tried putting them in a season 0 folder as I feel I should not have to as it should respect the naming, as well as not thinking it's the freaking episode in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37233 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Why do you think they're not respecting the naming? What season are they showing in? Did you update them with the correct episode numbers in the metadata editor? Have you compared your file naming to our tv naming guide? TV Naming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4326 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Do the specials maybe have 'Specials Episode' metadata - that is telling them which Season to show in ? If it does, I'm not sure how it would have got there - as there are no 'specials' with numbers this high - there are 187 'specials' on tvdb for example .. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanmaCanada 359 Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 @LukeAfter I split them apart in Emby and physicaly moved them to the extras folder I told the server to replace all metadata for the files in this show. The picture above is from Season 6, showing that the "specials" or "extras" are still being thought as being the episode that they are the extras for. They also show up in the specials folder. They are named as in my previous post Rick.and.Morty.S06E03.Bethic.Twinstinct Rick.and.Morty.S00E613.Anatomy.of.a.Scene.Bethic.Twinstinct Rick.and.Morty.S00E623.Inside.Bethic.Twinstinct So there is absolutely no reason for the files that are S00 to be in Season 06. The naming convention is 100% correct as S00 should put them in the specials folder, not the season folder. @rbjtech, yes it appears the metadata is being populated incorrectly even after I've told the server to replace all metadata. It appears that once again I need to go in and manually edit every single file to resolve this problem that constantly happens. I could also try deleting all the .nfo files as it seems Emby just doesn't have a clue on how to deal with this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1538 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 You have the season and episode numbers in the metadata, which determine where it appears. Just blank those entries and the problem should resolve. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4326 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, pwhodges said: You have the season and episode numbers in the metadata, which determine where it appears. Just blank those entries and the problem should resolve. Paul I think the issue Paul is the OP didn't put them there, emby did - so the question is why ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1538 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Right - well it's clear that it shouldn't from the given names, I agree... Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedfroop21 39 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, RanmaCanada said: After I split them apart in Emby and physicaly moved them to the extras folde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanmaCanada 359 Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, pwhodges said: You have the season and episode numbers in the metadata, which determine where it appears. Just blank those entries and the problem should resolve. Paul As @rbjtechstates, I never put that information there at all, so I want to know why Emby has decided that S00E6xx belongs in the Season 6 folder and why it is not respecting the naming. This is what we've decided to use for anime with multiple seasons and creditless openings and endings, and I have no issues in my massive anime library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1538 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Actually, later today I had the exact same thing happen to me with some specials. The problem is that TVDB gives them positions in the season corresponding to when they were published (not broadcast - the series was not for TV), even though they do not form part of the series itself, so Emby merges them with the season. But also Emby puts them in two places! - they show up in the Specials folder, but also in the Season 1 folder. What I want back is the option not to put specials into the sequence of normal episodes. We used to have that option and they've taken it away at the same time as making it more necessary. Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycedk 396 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @pwhodgesI have seen this to. And this is only 1 example, I'm seeing it all over my Serie folder in 4.8. This is with the series Cobra Kai fore some reason Emby decided that this Teaser should a speciel named The Karate Kid. /Mediaunraid/Series/Cobra Kai (2018) [TvdbId=332858]/other/The Karate Kid is all grown up (Teaser).mkv Cobra Kai - The Karate Kid - TheTVDB.com which is the movie. The file is placed under /Mediaunraid/Series/Cobra Kai (2018) [TvdbId=332858]/other/ And in 4.7 we have the option to turn this off. When 4.8 goes stabil, I will have to fix 1000's of extras, like this. And that will be a manuel fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycedk 396 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) But I would still want this added back. 6 hours ago, pwhodges said: option not to put specials into the sequence of normal episodes. This are identified right. But i do not want them showing in seasons. So again its going to be a manuel edit it all by hand This file is located in /Mediaunraid/Series/Cobra Kai (2018) [TvdbId=332858]/featurettes/ And are not in season 1 folder. Edited December 1, 2023 by jaycedk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycedk 396 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Here is another that's misplaced /Mediaunraid/Series/Cobra Kai (2018) [TvdbId=332858]/other/No mercy for Miguel (Teaser).mkv Its identified as And again its not in my season folder. But in my others folder I know that it's has parts on the episode name, as the one its getting identified with, but it has no s02e10 in the name. Can we please have back, the option to not include extras in seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglejim 355 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Ok I'm officially confused.. I've always used the advanced library setting for specials and it works great for me. It places the special into the season perfectly.. That's with the S00Exx naming convention in a folder named specials. How the hell is emby picking up on a folder named "other" and a episode with no "SxxExx"..... Am I right in guessing that this is beta dogshit? Edited December 1, 2023 by Junglejim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycedk 396 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @Junglejimit is beta dog"#". In beta, the advanced library setting for specials is gone. So I can't disable it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycedk 396 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Ha ha I'm seeing the same behavior on 4.7 1 hour ago, jaycedk said: Here is another that's misplaced /Mediaunraid/Series/Cobra Kai (2018) [TvdbId=332858]/other/No mercy for Miguel (Teaser).mkv Its identified as And again its not in my season folder. But in my others folder I know that it's has parts on the episode name, as the one its getting identified with, but it has no s02e10 in the name. Can we please have back, the option to not include extras in seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglejim 355 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, jaycedk said: @Junglejimit is beta dog"#". In beta, the advanced library setting for specials is gone. So I can't disable it. But there not even specials!! They are not in a folder named specials/season 0, or even have any season number naming (S00Exx)???? What the hell is going on?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycedk 396 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Exactly my point, it's annoying. And specials in season is disabled on 4.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4326 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) This is probably the result of Luke trying to accomodate more 'non standard' naming - my personal view is stick to the naming 'standard' that has been in place for YEARS and working perfectly well. If users are too lazy to name/rename files to a reasonable standard - then without meaning to sound harsh - that's their issue - not embys. Edited December 1, 2023 by rbjtech 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglejim 355 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, jaycedk said: Exactly my point, it's annoying. And specials in season is disabled on 4.7. I'm running 4.7.14 and haven't noticed any change. I must admit I haven't scraped a show special in a while.. but I still get the specials show in the season properly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycedk 396 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @rbjtechI totally agree with that. The lazy Bums are ruining it for us, that do care about our proper naming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycedk 396 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @Junglejimwell i have that option disabled. But i still see extras merging with normal named sXXeXX episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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