Emby vs. Jelly Fin Comparisons

[rbjtech 4926]

8 hours ago, Audiomixer said:

@Luke will this be addressed in a future release as this is an important part of my viewing requirements and a reason why i dont use the standard app.

Is that the only reason ? 

JF for AndroidTV seems to understand the requirement nicely ..

The more I use the JF for AndroidTV - the more I like it - being honest here, I like it more than the Emby AndroidTV App (it is modern looking functional version of that App..)

Putting all the configuration/preferences in the proper Android TV side bars is so nice .. it all integrates beautifully ..

 

.. one of my primary reasons for not even giving the Android client a fair test is this screen below - it's just ugly and unfinished, the episode thumbnail is not even centered in the white background ... 

 

If you need to do vertical scrolling, then do what AndroidTV did and just highlight the area BORDER (in grey/low intensity white) ..

Although I actually much prefer how JF are doing it (Horizontal Scrolling - to match the rest of the App.. and this makes much better use of the screen estate for the highlighted option ..)

anyway - sorry, way off topic .. back to Refresh Rate / Resolution switching - sorry !

Edited June 20, 2023 by CBers
Thread created by CBers.

[CBers 7063]

1 hour ago, rbjtech said:

anyway - sorry, way off topic .. back to Refresh Rate / Resolution switching - sorry !

Perhaps you need to do an Emby vs. JellyFin comparison thread, like you did with the ATV and STD Android apps

Might have to install the latest JF server myself and take a look

Where do they do their support stuff from nowadays, Discord?

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by CBers

[rbjtech 4926]

31 minutes ago, CBers said:

Where do they do their support stuff from nowadays, Discord?

They have a new forum since reddit was removed (very new, not much on there at the moment..) - I've never used Discord so maybe they are there as well.

31 minutes ago, CBers said:

Perhaps you need to do an Emby vs. JellyFin comparison thread, like you did with the ATV and STD Android apps

If I thought the Emby Dev's would read and act on it - but we've all been doing that for their own AndroidTV App vs Android App and very little has changed in terms of UX - so being brutally honest here - I'm not gonna waste my time any further ... 

Edited June 20, 2023 by rbjtech

[CBers 7063]

28 minutes ago, rbjtech said:

They have a new forum since reddit was removed (very new, not much on there at the moment..) - I've never used Discord so maybe they are there as well.

If I thought the Emby Dev's would read and act on it - but we've all been doing that for their own AndroidTV App vs Android App and very little has changed in terms of UX - so being brutally honest here - I'm not gonna waste my time any further ... 

Just installed the latest JF server. Had a previous JF server, so it just updated and scanned my libraries.

So far, so good.

Will download and install the ATV app later when I'm home.

EDIT: I have moved these posts to a new thread.

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by CBers

[Audiomixer 368]

4 hours ago, rbjtech said:

Is that the only reason ? 

JF for AndroidTV seems to understand the requirement nicely ..

The more I use the JF for AndroidTV - the more I like it - being honest here, I like it more than the Emby AndroidTV App (it is modern looking functional version of that App..)

Putting all the configuration/preferences in the proper Android TV side bars is so nice .. it all integrates beautifully ..

 

.. one of my primary reasons for not even giving the Android client a fair test is this screen below - it's just ugly and unfinished, the episode thumbnail is not even centered in the white background ... 

 

If you need to do vertical scrolling, then do what AndroidTV did and just highlight the area BORDER (in grey/low intensity white) ..

Although I actually much prefer how JF are doing it (Horizontal Scrolling - to match the rest of the App.. and this makes much better use of the screen estate for the highlighted option ..)

anyway - sorry, way off topic .. back to Refresh Rate / Resolution switching - sorry !

No, I said it was a reason. There are many reasons, the white background is another.

Edited June 20, 2023 by Audiomixer

[ebr 15580]

4 hours ago, rbjtech said:

Although I actually much prefer how JF are doing it (Horizontal Scrolling - to match the rest of the App

But there is no actual "Season" information there.  No season description.  No actions you can take on the whole season (play all, shuffle all, mark watched, filter, etc).

Our new Series view gives you the horizontal presentation of the entire series though.

[rbjtech 4926]

42 minutes ago, ebr said:

But there is no actual "Season" information there.  No season description.  No actions you can take on the whole season (play all, shuffle all, mark watched, filter, etc).

At a Season level yes, those 'functions' are missing - but play all is irrelevant anyway (as the next episode queues up anyway) and I've never once felt the need to watch a show in randomly played episodes - I generally like to watch them in order .. (lol).   I kid, for individual episode shows, I get why this may be useful.

Below is the 'show' level screen on JF AndroidTV - here you can do the playall/shuffle if you wanted to.

42 minutes ago, ebr said:

Our new Series view gives you the horizontal presentation of the entire series though.

I have that set (single Season only - as that the ONLY time I want to see it) and it still uses the Vertical display when selecting that Season.

JF gives you the best of both worlds.

If only 1 Season - then it doesn't bother displaying 'Season 1' - it just gives you the episodes (horizontal)

If it has multiple Seasons - then it gives you the 'current' Season (as horizontal) and if you select any other season, then it gives you that season in Horizontal as well..

..

It's not a full comparison - it's not supposed to be... - but even in it's current release, the JF AndroidTV App has many features I prefer over the Emby Android App (even some in the Emby AndroidTV App..) and it already looks 'polished'  (and most importanly, it's not being sunsetted either...)  

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by rbjtech

[ebr 15580]

8 hours ago, rbjtech said:

and it already looks 'polished'  (and most importanly, it's not being sunsetted either...)  

 

 

That design is my original one from our app in 2014 (they've just never changed it).  We moved to a more modern (and universal) view a long time ago.

[justinrh 210]

14 hours ago, rbjtech said:

one of my primary reasons for not even giving the Android client a fair test is this screen below - it's just ugly and unfinished

Wait a minute.  Just hold on.  Luke wants to know what there is to not like about the std app.  Well, you just said it in five words.  I guess Luke never actually used it 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, ebr said:

 

That design is my original one from our app in 2014 (they've just never changed it).  We moved to a more modern (and universal) view a long time ago.

Your 2014 design looked good. I primarily use Android and Roku and find both of those to be pretty flat. I've debated a few times completely restyling the web interface but since it won't be the same as the apps I've always just accepted what there is. I like the look and feel of Emby Theatre more than the apps but again, I don't generally watch on a computer. It would be nice to have options to style the interfaces differently.

[rbjtech 4926]

11 hours ago, ebr said:

We moved to a more modern (and universal) view a long time ago.

I'll stick with AndroidTV for as long as it works .. 2014 design or not .. I'd rather that than make my eyes bleed with an Apple knock off  ... 

Edited June 21, 2023 by rbjtech

[ebr 15580]

4 hours ago, rbjtech said:

I'd rather that than make my eyes bleed with an Apple knock off

Well, I guess quite ironically, that design was a straight copy of the Apple TV detail screen .

We did learn early on though that colors and intensity need to be toned down on TVs so we need to address that in the standard app.

[rbjtech 4926]

4 minutes ago, ebr said:

We did learn early on though that colors and intensity need to be toned down on TVs so we need to address that in the standard app.

Thank you - that would go some way to making it a lot more pleasing to the eye.

Performance improvements in 3311 appear to have done the trick on my hardware anyway - it's now has much more fluidity and responsiveness and I would say is on-par with AndroidTV now.