Harddrives

[Sammy 790]

Thoughts on these? I've had good luck with Seagate and these are currently cheaper than Western Digital. Anybody know what drive is inside?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-backup-plus-hub-8tb-external-usb-3-0-desktop-hard-drive-black/5450025.p?skuId=5450025

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-expansion-desktop-8tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/5512100.p?skuId=5512100

TIA

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Edited December 12, 2019 by Abobader
Removing the "tags"

[Sammy 790]

I guess this one is even less on Amazon right now. Thing is I have a $10 gift certificate from Best Buy because they quit supporting the Insignia smart plug and I had one.

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5V2ZXD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Orq8DbSCDPH9P

 

Maybe I can get Best Buy to price match and slap down the GC..

 

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Edited December 11, 2019 by Sammy

[Sammy 790]

Apparently, Best Buy doesn't sell those models but Amazon has this Seagate model for $125 right now. Maybe I can get Best Buy to price match on that I can have it for $115. Thoughts on this drive?

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HAPGEIE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WEq8Db9FSDCYE

 

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Edited December 11, 2019 by Sammy

[arche 177]

I have no experience with the Seagates, but looks like the WD are using the same drives I bought at Best Buy a couple of years ago https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/53901-good-deal-imo/?p=521303

 

Still using a few of these to this day, only had to adjust the power to get these to work.

[Sammy 790]

I have no experience with the Seagates, but looks like the WD are using the same drives I bought at Best Buy a couple of years ago https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/53901-good-deal-imo/?p=521303

 

Still using a few of these to this day, only had to adjust the power to get these to work.

 

I got one of those at $149 less a $5 reward from a previous purchase..

[mastrmind11 722]

I've had nothing but problems with seagate.  I run WD Reds now for years w/o problem.  Google hard drive shucking if you want some insane deals.

[Sammy 790]

Not sure why my thread got tagged as Closed. I don't remember doing it but cannot change it.

 

@ebr ?

 

@@Abobader

[Guest asrequested]

It seems to happen when you make a new topic in taptalk. Maybe check the app?

[lightsout 156]

Did you grab an easystore/mybook? I just shucked my fourth a few weeks ago. Great drives, the 8's get down to $129 at best buy sometimes.

[Sammy 790]

I'll wait. The model number is off by a letter so it'd be hit or (most likely) miss for a price match to amazon.

 

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[Q-Droid 989]

Larger Seagate HDDs tend to use SMR tech. Personally I avoid those and stick to CMR/PMR based drives.

[Sammy 790]

Larger Seagate HDDs tend to use SMR tech. Personally I avoid those and stick to CMR/PMR based drives.

 

Care to elaborate?

[Q-Droid 989]

Much info on Google.

 

SMR = shingled magnetic recording

CMR/PMR = conventional/perpendicular magnetic recording

 

There's a performance penalty and internal overhead in SMR drives for non-sequential update workloads. More work and sector relocation leads to more wear. Not worth the lower price IMO.

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[Sammy 790]

I'll stick with WD. Not worth it for $10!

[mastrmind11 722]

Did you grab an easystore/mybook? I just shucked my fourth a few weeks ago. Great drives, the 8's get down to $129 at best buy sometimes.

exactly this.  $130 for 8TB WD Red is unbeatable.

[lightsout 156]

exactly this. $130 for 8TB WD Red is unbeatable.

Agreed. Plus they hit an all time low this year of $119. Hoping this is the new good sale price.

 

 

https://amp.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/e4eyuv/bestbuy_wd_easystore_8tb_external_usb_30_hard/

[Sammy 790]

What about Elements? Basically $110 after 15% cash back..

 

WD 8TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBWLG0080HBK-NESN https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5V2ZXD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_LEP8DbN31EAMK

 

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[SHSPVR 123]

Much info on Google.

 

SMR = shingled magnetic recording

CMR/PMR = conventional/perpendicular magnetic recording

 

There's a performance penalty and internal overhead in SMR drives for non-sequential update workloads. More work and sector relocation leads to more wear. Not worth the lower price IMO.

 

Depend on the Seagate drive

shingled magnetic recording (SMR) was only in some USB and Drives that lable as Archive HDD there meant for long team storage only as in write once.

two-dimensional magnetic recording (TDMR) is found in the Barracudas and Ironwolves and other line under 12TB

heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR) 12TB and higher

[SHSPVR 123]

exactly this.  $130 for 8TB WD Red is unbeatable.

 

Where all one I seen are over $200

If refer to usb external hard drive there reason why there so cheap there carp drives

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[lightsout 156]

Where all one I seen are over $200

If refer to usb external hard drive there reason why there so cheap there carp drives

The WD external drives have reds in them, well they are no longer reds because of all the shucking of externals, but it is largely understood that they are the same drive just relabeled to easily be identified as coming from an external.

What about Elements? Basically $110 after 15% cash back..

 

WD 8TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBWLG0080HBK-NESN https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5V2ZXD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_LEP8DbN31EAMK

 

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As far as I know the drives are the same as the easystores. The easystore is a best buy exclusive, and the element is what everyone else sells. Looks like a sweet deal.

[Sammy 790]

Ordered the Elements.. basically $110 plus tax!

 

I'll report back on the contents.

 

I can still use the $10 Bestbuy GC for something else.

 

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I love how you are spending a bunch of money

[lightsout 156]

Ordered the Elements.. basically $110 plus tax!

 

I'll report back on the contents.

 

I can still use the $10 Bestbuy GC for something else.

 

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Smokin' deal!!! Let the spending continue! 

Edited December 12, 2019 by lightsout

[Q-Droid 989]

Depend on the Seagate drive

shingled magnetic recording (SMR) was only in some USB and Drives that lable as Archive HDD there meant for long team storage only as in write once.

two-dimensional magnetic recording (TDMR) is found in the Barracudas and Ironwolves and other line under 12TB

heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR) 12TB and higher

 

This is true (TDMR,HAMR) for the pro and enterprise models. But their higher capacity desktop and external models that run at lower RPMs, including Barracuda, have been using SMR. It's getting harder to find Seagate docs with this info and they've shifted to stating TGMR as the recording tech. If you find older datasheets for the same models they do include mention of SMR. 

Edited December 12, 2019 by Q-Droid

[SHSPVR 123]

This is true (TMDR,HAMR) for the pro and enterprise models. But their higher capacity desktop and external models that run at lower RPMs, including Barracuda, have been using SMR. It's getting harder to find Seagate docs with this info and they've shifted to stating TGMR as the recording tech. If you find older datasheets for the same models they do include mention of SMR. 

 

Unless there a reason for high speed 7200rpm drive which mainly games loading there really need even a stock 5400rpm drive can easy push 16 HD steam of 8mb/sec at ocen.

 

It not hard if no where to look see page 6

https://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/barracuda-fam/barracuda-new/en-us/docs/100805918g.pdf

As long time seagate user all way to 80's all one has to do call them and ask and I usually run them for 5 years 24/7 then update them make old one's as backup storage drive in fact I have upgrade to 8TB as I still got a few more to go on emby server