Emby FreeNAS issues

[youngster 0]

Just being honest. I came here with high hopes but after installing the server and paying for Emby Premier it has been disappointing.

 

Roku - Pretty much unwatchable as channels keep reloading the stream every few seconds

Windows - takes about 10 seconds to load a channel and then it pauses every few seconds during playback

iOS - Works okay

Shield TV - Works okay on some channels

Edited September 14, 2018 by youngster

[Guest asrequested]

When you say windows, what are you referring to?

[Luke 42079]

I would suggest using our newer FreeNAS package that is currently in beta testing:

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/60971-new-freenas-package-for-testing/

 

Thanks.

[youngster 0]

When you say windows, what are you referring to?

 

Windows Theater app on Windows 10

 

-also-

 

Windows Web Client on Windows 10

[Guest asrequested]

I suspect you're using the store app. Try this version

 

https://emby.media/emby-theater.html

[youngster 0]

I suspect you're using the store app. Try this version

 

https://emby.media/emby-theater.html

Yes, that version worked. So are you telling me we are supposed to know to avoid the approved app in the windows store?

[Guest asrequested]

Yes, that version worked. So are you telling me we are supposed to know to avoid the approved app in the windows store?

No, it's just that the store app uses the windows player. It isn't broken, just not very capable. The version you just used has MPV as it's player and can play just about everything. I believe they eventually want to use mpv in the store app, too. They just haven't got that far.

[Guest asrequested]

The reason you had the issues with the other player is because the server needed to remux/transcode and was struggling to do that. The only time that will happen with mpv is when there is a bandwidth limitation, then the server will transcode. But if you are on LAN, that will never happen.

[kikinjo 281]

Emby is great piece of software cant agree with you there.

Only thing that is still "heavy beta" is Live TV / m3u part that in combination of all available clients is not mature and in my opinion not tested (and fixed) enough.

Various combination of codecs and streams is too much even for Emby Desktop that i use also.

Edited September 14, 2018 by kikinjo

[Guest asrequested]

Emby is great piece of software cant agree with you there.

Only thing that is still "heavy beta" is Live TV / m3u part that in combination of all available clients is not mature and in my opinion not tested (and fixed) enough.

Various combination of codecs and streams is too much even for Emby Desktop that i use also.

For your issue, have you tried using mpv as a standalone? I'd like to see the result of that.

[youngster 0]

I would suggest using our newer FreeNAS package that is currently in beta testing:

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/60971-new-freenas-package-for-testing/

 

Thanks.

I went ahead and switched to the version you suggested. It didn't resolve any of the issues I am describing. 

 

What I'm not liking are the way so many of the clients just don't work well. The only one that seems okay is the iOS client. All the others have issues that aren't worth living with. Even the Windows client that I was told to install has lots of interlacing on many of the channels. The emby app in Roku is completely unwatchable. The emby app in the Shield TV struggles to play many of the channels I tune to, pausing every few seconds.

 

I'm surprised at these results because I had heard such good things

Edited September 14, 2018 by youngster

[ebr 16184]

Hi.  Can we please see the details on a specific instance of a problem you are having?

 

How to report a media playback issue

[youngster 0]

I'm sorry but I'm not willing to help you troubleshoot these issues. I know that seems lame, but I just don't want to. I was looking for a LiveTV/DVR solution that was more polished than this. I'm moving on to something else.

 

I will just let you know that I was running the emby server on my FreeNAS device. The tuner was HDHomeRun Duo. My goal was to test LiveTV, playing on all the clients in my home, all of which are LAN connected (except the iPAD). Those clients included: Shield TV, Roku 3, Windows 10, iPad Pro, Samsung Smart TV.

 

Only the iPAD worked well. All the others experience  long wait times in changing channels and frequent pausing during streaming.

[ebr 16184]

Okay, my suspicion is that this is all due to under-powered hardware for the media/streams and clients you were trying to use.  That suspicion is based on the fact that you said you didn't see these pauses with the apps that have the ability to play the streams without transcoding.

[EODCrafter 181]

I'm sorry but I'm not willing to help you troubleshoot these issues. I know that seems lame, but I just don't want to. I was looking for a LiveTV/DVR solution that was more polished than this. I'm moving on to something else.

 

I will just let you know that I was running the emby server on my FreeNAS device. The tuner was HDHomeRun Duo. My goal was to test LiveTV, playing on all the clients in my home, all of which are LAN connected (except the iPAD). Those clients included: Shield TV, Roku 3, Windows 10, iPad Pro, Samsung Smart TV.

 

Only the iPAD worked well. All the others experience  long wait times in changing channels and frequent pausing during streaming.

Could you clue us in on what is "Better" than Emby? I have tried every Live TV Server out there and nothing comes even close to what Emby Does. I would really be interested in what you think is better.

[youngster 0]

I've tried HDHomeRun DVR and experienced none of the problems I had with Emby. I wanted to find something more polished (more features) than HDHomeRun DVR, and based on feedback from others I fully expected Emby to be that solution.

 

I intend to try Live Channels DVR next.

Edited September 14, 2018 by youngster

[ebr 16184]

I think we would have been if given a bit more hardware capability but we are always looking to improve as well.

 

Thanks.

[EODCrafter 181]

I've tried HDHomeRun DVR and experienced none of the problems I had with Emby. I wanted to find something more polished (more features) than HDHomeRun DVR, and based on feedback from others I fully expected Emby to be that solution.

 

I intend to try Channels DVR next.

Ahhhh...My Streams are all .m3u based so we are from different Planets basically.

[Carlo 4561]

I went ahead and switched to the version you suggested. It didn't resolve any of the issues I am describing. 

 

What I'm not liking are the way so many of the clients just don't work well. The only one that seems okay is the iOS client. All the others have issues that aren't worth living with. Even the Windows client that I was told to install has lots of interlacing on many of the channels. The emby app in Roku is completely unwatchable. The emby app in the Shield TV struggles to play many of the channels I tune to, pausing every few seconds.

 

I'm surprised at these results because I had heard such good things

The clients work.  BUT if the client doesn't support the codec in the stream being recorded you then have to transcode (change it on the fly) on the server.

It's obvious to me reading your posts you haven't spent much time setting up the server or the clients based on seeing "interlacing".

 

Keep in mind other solutions won't even support some of the clients you mentioned.  For example Silicon Dust's own software won't run on Roku because the device doesn't support mpeg2 which is used in OTA broadcasts in the USA nor can it de-interlace (double whammy).

 

Setting up a proper media system does take time and patience to get it working well regardless of your expectations.  The reword is worth the modest effort.

 

Right now by your posts it sounds like you have a garage full of parts your assembled or purchased and think it should magically be a corvette or something without you putting any effort into putting "the project" together and testing it. 

 

You didn't give nearly enough data for anyone to actually help you but it sounds like the "motor" you have in your car is an old VW motor and this won't make the car perform like a Vette.

 

Chill out a bit and there are tons of us who can help you get a near perfect environment setup in not much time but work with us, so we can work with you.

 

Carlo

[Luke 42079]

I went ahead and switched to the version you suggested. It didn't resolve any of the issues I am describing. 

 

What I'm not liking are the way so many of the clients just don't work well. The only one that seems okay is the iOS client. All the others have issues that aren't worth living with. Even the Windows client that I was told to install has lots of interlacing on many of the channels. The emby app in Roku is completely unwatchable. The emby app in the Shield TV struggles to play many of the channels I tune to, pausing every few seconds.

 

I'm surprised at these results because I had heard such good things

 

Did you enable deinterlacing in the app's settings?

[_jackflack 9]

I am kinda jealous of this guys attention.

 

Comes in, said he had high hopes for emby but has been disappointed. You all ask for more info and he tells you hes not inclined to help you fix your product. So the brain trust digs in and starts to theorize on what it could be and how to prove they are the Goliath slayers and the future of this niche.

 

Meantime, paying monthly customer. Does as much troubleshooting and research as he can to eliminate the easy fixes that make some issues seem impossible. Humbly asks for assistance because he sees all too often the people who want to help get disrespected for offering to help. Provides all the information that's usually requested without being asked or told to. Answers all questions promptly and not sarcastically even though I am just as frustrated as the next polite, paying customer.

 

Here was my help... I get asked if I actually have a problem. If I do, its because its slow, and wait for the next version. Oh and it sounds like my network switch one person suggested, which I had tested already with an entirely different switch. Politely ask to please take another look because I want to know with all the information I gave, where is the actual bottle neck? What have I set up wrong? Because with those specs and internet speeds, and the process of elimination, I should not have only one person connected. They choose a file that gets trans-coded and it takes the whole system down.

 

Extremely disappointed myself because I cannot use Emby right now either, and I pay for the damn thing every month.

[Carlo 4561]

Link to your thread?

[youngster 0]

I guess I ruffled some feathers. Sorry

 

I do not have a bunch of old VW parts. Not sure why that was said. I already listed what I had.

 

Your comments about the Roku are totally valid.

 

The fact is my old VW parts are working really well using the HDHomeRun app (other than Roku)

[_jackflack 9]

Link to your thread?

 

Sorry, had to drive home.

 

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/62676-wits-end-yet-unexplained-ms-spikes-while-transcoding/