FunkyB 4 Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 This started happening a few months ago. Any new tracks I've added after to a music library after a certain date a few months back, don't show up under "Genres". They are definitely tagged properly, as I use then in my DJ software, and Emby shows them under the auto-generated "Latest ... Music" lists. Also, they show up if I browse by Albums or Artists and Emby plays them fine. I've updated Emby manually by downloading the spk from the website. I also tried re-scanning the library but it didn't make any difference, probably because the tracks are already in it. I'm at a loss as to how to even trouble-shoot this further. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Emby 4.8.11.0 running on Synology DSM.
Luke 42078 Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 Hi there, let’s look at a specific example. Thanks.
FunkyB 4 Posted April 27, 2025 Author Posted April 27, 2025 I'm not sure how to show this except post a bunch of screenshots. Sorry for the massive images. The same thing happens if I open it on mobile or another browser. It's also the same whether I log in to my admin account or normal account. I double-checked and the "emby" user has Read/Write permission on the Music folder where all of these are stored. Suggestions view - everything shows OK: (the underlined ones are from 2025) Albums view - all OK: Songs view - again. no problem: Artists and Composers also display as expected. But with Genre, newer tracks are just not there. Genre > House: Even if I Filter to 2024 (there isn't even a 2025 for date added): I hope that helps show the situation. Any idea how I can further troubleshoot this?
Luke 42078 Posted April 27, 2025 Posted April 27, 2025 Quote Even if I Filter to 2024 (there isn't even a 2025 for date added): Hi, what do you mean by this? There is no year filter for date added. What you are referring to is the release year value. Do your albums have these values filled in? You can check in the metadata editor.
FunkyB 4 Posted May 6, 2025 Author Posted May 6, 2025 Filtering the year in the last screenshot was just to drill down on newer tracks. The filters are all working for me as intended. I've found the issue, though. When I open the metadata editor in Emby on any of the tracks that aren't showing under Genre, there is no Genre assigned to them. If I manually add a Genre there, the track immediately shows up in the Genre tab. So the problem is that for some reason Emby isn't reading the genre tags from track metadata for tracks added sometime after the last install. To double check, I opened both an older track (Paradise Life) and a newer one (Chronicles - that Emby doesn't show a genre for) in MP3Tag, and both have the same genre. There are no ghost trailing spaces or anything either - they are exactly the same. Note that for the track Paradise Life, I did not edit anything in Emby to assign a Genre. I only tagged it before copying it into my library and Emby detected it automatically. Do I need to do a manual re-fresh to re-read the metadata, or is there some setting that maybe I turned off by mistake? I looked through but didn't see anything (however, I also missed the metadata editor :).
Happy2Play 9780 Posted May 6, 2025 Posted May 6, 2025 Ultimately in the end you have to see what ffprobe sees on each track but had no issue testing here. From my log you can see the ffprobe command Quote 2025-05-06 07:14:08.227 Info MediaProbeManager: ProcessRun 'ffprobe' Execute: C:\Users\Media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\system\ffprobe.exe -i file:"E:\Media\Music - emby metadata\Di Saronno\Spittin' Bars EP\DJ Simi, Di Saronno - Spittin Bars (Original Mix).mp3" -threads 0 -v info -print_format json -show_streams -show_format -f mp3 output manually running that command first section Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.26200.5581] (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Media>C:\Users\Media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\system\ffprobe.exe -i file:"E:\Media\Music - emby metadata\Di Saronno\Spittin' Bars EP\DJ Simi, Di Saronno - Spittin Bars (Original Mix).mp3" -threads 0 -v info -print_format json -show_streams -show_format -f mp3 ffprobe version 5.1-emby_2023_06_25_p4 Copyright (c) 2007-2022 the FFmpeg developers and softworkz for Emby LLC built with gcc 12.2.0 (Rev10, Built by MSYS2 project) { Input #0, mp3, from 'file:E:\Media\Music - emby metadata\Di Saronno\Spittin' Bars EP\DJ Simi, Di Saronno - Spittin Bars (Original Mix).mp3': Metadata: album : Spittin' Bars EP [DE025] artist : DJ Simi; Di Saronno album_artist : Di Saronno encoder : Lavf61.1.100 genre : House publisher : D'EAUPE title : Spittin' Bars (Original Mix) Duration: 00:06:58.64, start: 0.025056, bitrate: 131 kb/s Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 128 kb/s, Start-Time 0.025s
FunkyB 4 Posted May 7, 2025 Author Posted May 7, 2025 (edited) Emby is installed on my NAS, and I don't know how I'd run ffprobe there, but I had ffprobe on my PC and here's what it gives me. It looks like the genre is there. EDIT: Drive M: is mapped to the music folder on my NAS. Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.26100.3775] (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. M:\Audio PC\C\Music\DJ\2025\Di Saronno - Spittin' Bars EP (2025)>ffprobe "02. Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby - Chronicles (original mix).aif" ffprobe version 2021-01-01-git-63505fc60a-full_build-www.gyan.dev Copyright (c) 2007-2021 the FFmpeg developers built with gcc 10.2.0 (Rev5, Built by MSYS2 project) configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-static --disable-w32threads --disable-autodetect --enable-fontconfig --enable-iconv --enable-gnutls --enable-libxml2 --enable-gmp --enable-lzma --enable-libsnappy --enable-zlib --enable-libsrt --enable-libssh --enable-libzmq --enable-avisynth --enable-libbluray --enable-libcaca --enable-sdl2 --enable-libdav1d --enable-libzvbi --enable-librav1e --enable-libsvtav1 --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxvid --enable-libaom --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libvpx --enable-libass --enable-frei0r --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-libzimg --enable-amf --enable-cuda-llvm --enable-cuvid --enable-ffnvcodec --enable-nvdec --enable-nvenc --enable-d3d11va --enable-dxva2 --enable-libmfx --enable-libglslang --enable-vulkan --enable-opencl --enable-libcdio --enable-libgme --enable-libmodplug --enable-libopenmpt --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libshine --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libilbc --enable-libgsm --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopus --enable-libspeex --enable-libvorbis --enable-ladspa --enable-libbs2b --enable-libflite --enable-libmysofa --enable-librubberband --enable-libsoxr --enable-chromaprint libavutil 56. 62.100 / 56. 62.100 libavcodec 58.115.102 / 58.115.102 libavformat 58. 65.100 / 58. 65.100 libavdevice 58. 11.103 / 58. 11.103 libavfilter 7. 94.100 / 7. 94.100 libswscale 5. 8.100 / 5. 8.100 libswresample 3. 8.100 / 3. 8.100 libpostproc 55. 8.100 / 55. 8.100 Input #0, aiff, from '02. Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby - Chronicles (original mix).aif': Metadata: genre : House album : Spittin' Bars EP artist : Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby title : Chronicles (original mix) track : 2 date : 2025 album_artist : Di Saronno TBPM : 125 publisher : D'Eaupe TKEY : 5A Duration: 00:06:58.59, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1413 kb/s Stream #0:0: Audio: pcm_s16be, 44100 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1411 kb/s Stream #0:1: Video: png, rgb24(pc), 300x300 [SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc (attached pic) Metadata: comment : Cover (front) I just noticed that there are "album.nfo" files in each folder which are not present in the original data that is copied to the NAS. The "album.nfo" file in the folder for this album contains the following -- note that it is missing genre information. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?> <album> <review /> <outline /> <lockdata>false</lockdata> <dateadded>2025-04-23 00:15:37</dateadded> <title>Spittin' Bars EP</title> <year>2025</year> <sorttitle>Spittin' Bars EP</sorttitle> <runtime>7</runtime> <artist>Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby</artist> <albumartist>Di Saronno</albumartist> </album> In the Library settings, I'm going to try unchecking "Nfo" under Metadata Readers and also Metadata Savers and rescan. My Sync software mirrors the DJ PC content to the NAS, so it will probably delete them next time I sync anyway as they aren't part of the original data (I can change that if needed). Edited May 7, 2025 by FunkyB
Happy2Play 9780 Posted May 7, 2025 Posted May 7, 2025 (edited) Not sure unless something appears in the server log during import as I get this for aiff and mp3 formats. Only thing I changed on orginal tags is ARTIST to secondard line but could have used semicolons instead. And added AlbumArtist. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?> <album> <review /> <outline /> <lockdata>false</lockdata> <dateadded>2025-05-06 07:05:55</dateadded> <title>Spittin' Bars EP [DE025]</title> <sorttitle>Spittin' Bars EP [DE025]</sorttitle> <runtime>26</runtime> <genre>UK Garage</genre> <genre>Bassline</genre> <genre>House</genre> <genre>Deep House</genre> <artist>DJ Simi</artist> <artist>Di Saronno</artist> <artist>K'Alexi Shelby</artist> <albumartist>Di Saronno</albumartist> </album> Edited May 7, 2025 by Happy2Play
Luke 42078 Posted May 17, 2025 Posted May 17, 2025 On 5/7/2025 at 10:44 AM, FunkyB said: Emby is installed on my NAS, and I don't know how I'd run ffprobe there, but I had ffprobe on my PC and here's what it gives me. It looks like the genre is there. EDIT: Drive M: is mapped to the music folder on my NAS. Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.26100.3775] (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. M:\Audio PC\C\Music\DJ\2025\Di Saronno - Spittin' Bars EP (2025)>ffprobe "02. Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby - Chronicles (original mix).aif" ffprobe version 2021-01-01-git-63505fc60a-full_build-www.gyan.dev Copyright (c) 2007-2021 the FFmpeg developers built with gcc 10.2.0 (Rev5, Built by MSYS2 project) configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-static --disable-w32threads --disable-autodetect --enable-fontconfig --enable-iconv --enable-gnutls --enable-libxml2 --enable-gmp --enable-lzma --enable-libsnappy --enable-zlib --enable-libsrt --enable-libssh --enable-libzmq --enable-avisynth --enable-libbluray --enable-libcaca --enable-sdl2 --enable-libdav1d --enable-libzvbi --enable-librav1e --enable-libsvtav1 --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxvid --enable-libaom --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libvpx --enable-libass --enable-frei0r --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-libzimg --enable-amf --enable-cuda-llvm --enable-cuvid --enable-ffnvcodec --enable-nvdec --enable-nvenc --enable-d3d11va --enable-dxva2 --enable-libmfx --enable-libglslang --enable-vulkan --enable-opencl --enable-libcdio --enable-libgme --enable-libmodplug --enable-libopenmpt --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libshine --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libilbc --enable-libgsm --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopus --enable-libspeex --enable-libvorbis --enable-ladspa --enable-libbs2b --enable-libflite --enable-libmysofa --enable-librubberband --enable-libsoxr --enable-chromaprint libavutil 56. 62.100 / 56. 62.100 libavcodec 58.115.102 / 58.115.102 libavformat 58. 65.100 / 58. 65.100 libavdevice 58. 11.103 / 58. 11.103 libavfilter 7. 94.100 / 7. 94.100 libswscale 5. 8.100 / 5. 8.100 libswresample 3. 8.100 / 3. 8.100 libpostproc 55. 8.100 / 55. 8.100 Input #0, aiff, from '02. Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby - Chronicles (original mix).aif': Metadata: genre : House album : Spittin' Bars EP artist : Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby title : Chronicles (original mix) track : 2 date : 2025 album_artist : Di Saronno TBPM : 125 publisher : D'Eaupe TKEY : 5A Duration: 00:06:58.59, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1413 kb/s Stream #0:0: Audio: pcm_s16be, 44100 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1411 kb/s Stream #0:1: Video: png, rgb24(pc), 300x300 [SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc (attached pic) Metadata: comment : Cover (front) I just noticed that there are "album.nfo" files in each folder which are not present in the original data that is copied to the NAS. The "album.nfo" file in the folder for this album contains the following -- note that it is missing genre information. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?> <album> <review /> <outline /> <lockdata>false</lockdata> <dateadded>2025-04-23 00:15:37</dateadded> <title>Spittin' Bars EP</title> <year>2025</year> <sorttitle>Spittin' Bars EP</sorttitle> <runtime>7</runtime> <artist>Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby</artist> <albumartist>Di Saronno</albumartist> </album> In the Library settings, I'm going to try unchecking "Nfo" under Metadata Readers and also Metadata Savers and rescan. My Sync software mirrors the DJ PC content to the NAS, so it will probably delete them next time I sync anyway as they aren't part of the original data (I can change that if needed). @FunkyBcan you try this with the ffprobe build that ships with Emby Server?
FunkyB 4 Posted May 18, 2025 Author Posted May 18, 2025 (edited) Sure. I have no idea how I'd run ffprobe from my NAS, though. Is there any way to download that build without having to install Emby Server on my PC? I'll install if that's the only way, but just checking. I don't see information on the download pages for FFmpeg's packages about which version of ffprobe is included with which release. Edit: Re-scanning the library after the last attempt didn't change anything. Edited May 18, 2025 by FunkyB
Happy2Play 9780 Posted May 18, 2025 Posted May 18, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FunkyB said: Is there any way to download that build without having to install Emby Server on my PC? Sort of as you can grab the portable zip file assuming Windows. As I don't believe the ffmpeg package is available by itself Emby Server for Windows or from GitHub Releases · MediaBrowser/Emby.Releases Edited May 18, 2025 by Happy2Play
FunkyB 4 Posted May 19, 2025 Author Posted May 19, 2025 (edited) OK, here is is. I ran it twice: once on the PC local music folder, where I copied a sampling of files to test the Windows Server installation, and then once more on the file on the NAS. The results look the same; not surprising because it's a copy of the same file. Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.26100.4061] (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\inert\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\system>ffprobe "D:\inert\Music\Emby music\2025\Di Saronno - Spittin' Bars EP (2025)\02. Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby - Chronicles (original mix).aif" ffprobe version 5.1-emby_2023_06_25 Copyright (c) 2007-2022 the FFmpeg developers and softworkz for Emby LLC built with gcc 12.2.0 (Rev10, Built by MSYS2 project) Input #0, aiff, from 'D:\inert\Music\Emby music\2025\Di Saronno - Spittin' Bars EP (2025)\02. Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby - Chronicles (original mix).aif': Metadata: genre : House album : Spittin' Bars EP artist : Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby title : Chronicles (original mix) track : 2 date : 2025 album_artist : Di Saronno TBPM : 125 publisher : D'Eaupe TKEY : 5A Duration: 00:06:58.59, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1413 kb/s Stream #0:0: Audio: pcm_s16be, 44100 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1411 kb/s Stream #0:1: Video: png, rgb24(pc), 300x300 [SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn (attached pic) Metadata: comment : Cover (front) C:\Users\inert\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\system>ffprobe "M:\Audio PC\C\Music\DJ\2025\Di Saronno - Spittin' Bars EP (2025)\02. Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby - Chronicles (original mix).aif" ffprobe version 5.1-emby_2023_06_25 Copyright (c) 2007-2022 the FFmpeg developers and softworkz for Emby LLC built with gcc 12.2.0 (Rev10, Built by MSYS2 project) Input #0, aiff, from 'M:\Audio PC\C\Music\DJ\2025\Di Saronno - Spittin' Bars EP (2025)\02. Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby - Chronicles (original mix).aif': Metadata: genre : House album : Spittin' Bars EP artist : Di Saronno & K'Alexi Shelby title : Chronicles (original mix) track : 2 date : 2025 album_artist : Di Saronno TBPM : 125 publisher : D'Eaupe TKEY : 5A Duration: 00:06:58.59, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1413 kb/s Stream #0:0: Audio: pcm_s16be, 44100 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1411 kb/s Stream #0:1: Video: png, rgb24(pc), 300x300 [SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn (attached pic) Metadata: comment : Cover (front) The Windows installation of Emby server did pick up the Genres of the same files that it isn't getting on the NAS. They display both in Emby's metatag editor, and I can also browse properly by (Library) > Genre > (Genre Folder) > (Anything under that). Both Emby installations are version 4.8.11.0. I'm starting to wonder if I should just delete the installation on the NAS and then reinstall it from the .spk file. Edited May 19, 2025 by FunkyB
Solution FunkyB 4 Posted May 30, 2025 Author Solution Posted May 30, 2025 After seeing that the install on Windows worked fine, I decided to delete the NAS install, including the database, and set it up again from scratch. Emby is now showing the genre on all tracks and everything works as expected. Hopefully there was just some random corruption and it will be OK now. It was not readily apparent how to delete the database files. What I did was follow the instructions in this thread: https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/120043-i-have-hosed-my-emby-on-synology-how-to-resetremove-etc/ ...but I couldn't remove /volume1/@appdata/EmbyServer as I didn't have permissions even as admin. I finally used the command: bash sudo rm -rf /volume1/@appdata/EmbyServer which got rid of it. Be really careful with that command because if you make a mistake with it, it could definitely trash your system. 1
FunkyB 4 Posted June 24, 2025 Author Posted June 24, 2025 Just a follow-up to say that I've added several new tracks and they all show up as expected in all of the views in Emby after a clean re-install. It appears that this was indeed some glitch caused by leftover files in the @appdata/EmyServer folder from the old installation, and not a bug. If deleting and reinstalling the package doesn't fix the problem, try manually removing that folder. 1
p30better 0 Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 Hi there, let’s look at a specific example. Thanks.
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