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It would be nice if we could have an additional level in audio books for book series, rather than just author, book, chapters.  It would be nice if they were listed in series order too.

Author > (series) > Book > Chapters.

 

I just realised.. this is probably not really doable if you're pulling data out of tags in the file... ah well.  I guess it'd be more hassle than its worth, I dont see many people opting to add in series tags into each of their files...

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Hi.  Yes, this is a nice idea but the issue is where does this information come from...

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6 hours ago, ebr said:

Hi.  Yes, this is a nice idea but the issue is where does this information come from...

If you make it like collections we can create our own series.

Otherwise you can likely do it similarly to how Calibre does it from Google Books: https://developers.google.com/books/docs/v1/using and Amazon: https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/advertising/api/detail/main.html 

Or since book and audiobook series tend to be the same look up the book series data via the overdrive metadata API: https://developer.overdrive.com/apis/metadata or the openlibrary's api: https://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/books

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I'd love this feature -- would be much more elegant to have "collections" of books 

My current janky workarounds are some combination of:

  • include the series as the "album" tag "[Series Name] [Number in Series] - [Actual Title]"
  • have the correct publication date as the "year" tag & consistently spelled Author as the "artist" tag
  • naming my folders in a similar fashion as the "album" tag "[Author] - [Year] - [Series Name] [Number in Series] - [Actual Title]"

Obviously this has lots of limitations, esp if there are different authors across different books in the same series/collection 

 

Pic below is a current "best case scenario" for a series of audiobooks when I navigate to the "Author" --> "Albums" page

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Tremas

Could this be achieved by using the "Release Group Series" information from MusicBrainz? It's somewhat like collections from themoviedb. It seems that for most popular audiobooks there is already tons of series information associated with the album IDs. To see what I mean, you can look up an author and click on the recording to see a "relationships" section where the series information is shown.

Here's two examples:

George R. R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire":

https://musicbrainz.org/series/c70c5484-06bc-4221-9550-236926a37823

 

Douglas Adams' "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" as two different series based on narrator:

https://musicbrainz.org/series/5369df2d-7511-4a98-8a73-03b134af9e48

https://musicbrainz.org/series/e650a8a3-9d73-4c39-b452-7f02fd313f57

 

MusicBrainz even has sub-series levels, like for BigFinish Dr. Who audios:

https://musicbrainz.org/series/946c3649-4c39-4025-bad2-455890bb9160?page=8

 

It would be great if we could get this info into emby, especially if we already have audiobooks tagged with MusicBrainz.

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19 hours ago, Tremas said:

Could this be achieved by using the "Release Group Series" information from MusicBrainz? It's somewhat like collections from themoviedb. It seems that for most popular audiobooks there is already tons of series information associated with the album IDs. To see what I mean, you can look up an author and click on the recording to see a "relationships" section where the series information is shown.

Here's two examples:

George R. R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire":

https://musicbrainz.org/series/c70c5484-06bc-4221-9550-236926a37823

 

Douglas Adams' "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" as two different series based on narrator:

https://musicbrainz.org/series/5369df2d-7511-4a98-8a73-03b134af9e48

https://musicbrainz.org/series/e650a8a3-9d73-4c39-b452-7f02fd313f57

 

MusicBrainz even has sub-series levels, like for BigFinish Dr. Who audios:

https://musicbrainz.org/series/946c3649-4c39-4025-bad2-455890bb9160?page=8

 

It would be great if we could get this info into emby, especially if we already have audiobooks tagged with MusicBrainz.

Possibly, yes, assuming that's what it's intended for, and that they've got it well populated.

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Derkington

Hi,  I would like to add my support for the addition of this metadata to the info displayed in the emby apps (I listen to audio books on the move).  Emby really suffers without the ability to show the following information, a bit like a music app that cannot display albums in as much as it makes it difficult to consume the media as intended. 

It would be great if emby could display tags seriespart, series and subtitle if present in files, and nice to haves composer &  rating_wmp

The difference for me is I would prefer that emby would look at the metadata in the files first, all my media is tagged appropriately.

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6 minutes ago, Derkington said:

Hi,  I would like to add my support for the addition of this metadata to the info displayed in the emby apps (I listen to audio books on the move).  Emby really suffers without the ability to show the following information, a bit like a music app that cannot display albums in as much as it makes it difficult to consume the media as intended. 

It would be great if emby could display tags seriespart, series and subtitle if present in files, and nice to haves composer &  rating_wmp

The difference for me is I would prefer that emby would look at the metadata in the files first, all my media is tagged appropriately.

Hi there, Emby already supports Composers in audio files, just FYI.

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On 19/10/2022 at 21:52, Luke said:

Hi there, Emby already supports Composers in audio files, just FYI.

I had originally written a longer bunch of feedback in the original comment but chose to submit what I did as others had covered most things I was going to say. Yes emby does support composers, but I think its minimal support. I think a composer/narrator is a very close second to the author in as much as they impact on the experience of listening to an audiobook dramatically. It would be helpful if that information was presented with the author, when you first click on an audiobook for example. When choosing what to listen to you would see written by and narrated/read by more clearly.

Generally for audiobooks in emby I find that useful information (if it exists) is not presented in a first-class way, the audiobook UI needs to be reworked.

Saying all that, being able to know an audiobook is part of a series and where it appears in the sequence is more important to me at this point.

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11 hours ago, Derkington said:

I had originally written a longer bunch of feedback in the original comment but chose to submit what I did as others had covered most things I was going to say. Yes emby does support composers, but I think its minimal support. I think a composer/narrator is a very close second to the author in as much as they impact on the experience of listening to an audiobook dramatically. It would be helpful if that information was presented with the author, when you first click on an audiobook for example. When choosing what to listen to you would see written by and narrated/read by more clearly.

Generally for audiobooks in emby I find that useful information (if it exists) is not presented in a first-class way. The audiobook UI needs to be reworked, things like chapters are called songs and books are albums for example, both of which initially causes confusion.

Saying all that, being able to know an audiobook is part of a series and where it appears in the sequence is more important to me at this point.

Hi, where do you see books called albums?

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Derkington
18 hours ago, Luke said:

Hi, where do you see books called albums?

This is my mistake. It does not refer to album in that way, I conflated emby with using mp3tag while seeing if it was worth mimicking what user dapper did with regards to adding extra metadata to files along with a more complicated filesystem layout to make file and series association easier. I chose not to go down that path, I will update my post to avoid misleading anyone who might come across it!

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On 22/10/2022 at 20:49, Luke said:

Hi, where do you see books called albums?

Album tag is used for things like "Series 1" This is how even the BBC do it.

Example: Book with multiple tracks for author of a book, i.e. multiple episodes as tracks

ARTIST: Agatha Christie 

ALBUM: Hercule Poirot: Sad Cypress 

TITLE: Episode 1

 

Example: Audiobook that has series to a programme name i.e. was never a published physical book. Each series has a number of individual stories.

ARTIST: Dad's Army 

ALBUM: Series 1

TITLE: Sons Of The Sea

All the titles for series 1 are grouped and each has a track number.

Composer can be used for writer for each track.

Each title has a Description meta tag embedded to describe it.

This works for me for 1000's of audiobooks, unless you have a book, say Bridget Jones's Diary done by say BBC and then Audible did a version. Here I normally put ALBUM tag as something like 'The BBC Radio Collection" or something suitable.

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