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DarkStar1977
19 minutes ago, vdatanet said:

@DarkStar1977

What server version are you running? Beta 4.6 with tone mapping options enabled?

Latest available for WD PR4100 OS 3 is 4.5.4.0, the one I'm running

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25 minutes ago, vdatanet said:

Is HDR?

Native player transcodes that, MPV direct plays. That's the difference.

Not sure how to see this, this is the Mediainfo for this file:

 

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Edited by DarkStar1977
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Some media play better using the native player, some using the MPV player and some (too much) with neither. We will have to wait for improvements in the MPV player, I think that is the way to go.

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DarkStar1977

Ok but meanwhile, can they correct the problem with subtitles on non MPV Player ?

 

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Forced subtitles don't work for me using the Native Player anyway; never have. MPV Player currently is too terrible with interlaced playback to use, and whilst the Native Player cant show interlaced content if its HD resolution (it can only do progressive), it seems to handle SD interlaced a little bit better than MPV and MPV wont play a  large number of H264 music videos encoded in high profile Handbrake app, that everything else (TVs/Rokus/Web) plays fine.

I have an iTunes MP4 repackaged as MKV using BOX app (all my moves are MKV) and they have an 5.1 Dolby Digital track, Stereo Track and basic subtitles as would be in an iTunes MP4 file with the "Forced" flag set if a force subtitle set (and EN). AGain these work fine on ROKU/TV Emby apps.

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  • 1 month later...
On 5/21/2021 at 5:15 AM, unisoft said:

Forced subtitles don't work for me using the Native Player anyway; never have. MPV Player currently is too terrible with interlaced playback to use, and whilst the Native Player cant show interlaced content if its HD resolution (it can only do progressive), it seems to handle SD interlaced a little bit better than MPV and MPV wont play a  large number of H264 music videos encoded in high profile Handbrake app, that everything else (TVs/Rokus/Web) plays fine.

I have an iTunes MP4 repackaged as MKV using BOX app (all my moves are MKV) and they have an 5.1 Dolby Digital track, Stereo Track and basic subtitles as would be in an iTunes MP4 file with the "Forced" flag set if a force subtitle set (and EN). AGain these work fine on ROKU/TV Emby apps.

@unisoft are you still able to reproduce this?

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On 28/06/2021 at 14:40, Luke said:

@unisoft are you still able to reproduce this?

The Apple Tv is at partner's house. When I am down there next, I'll let you know. They were simple (iTunes) subtitles (SUBRIP?) not PGS

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  • 3 weeks later...
On 7/1/2021 at 7:53 AM, unisoft said:

The Apple Tv is at partner's house. When I am down there next, I'll let you know. They were simple (iTunes) subtitles (SUBRIP?) not PGS

Great, thanks.

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On 18/07/2021 at 06:46, Luke said:

Great, thanks.

Sorry Luke, kicking myself. Was there yesterday and forgot to check. I should be there by end of this week hopefully so will check. 

I'd normally remember, but it was a rush visit.

 

UPDATE: Should be able to update on Thursday 22/07/21

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On 18/07/2021 at 06:46, Luke said:

Great, thanks.

Hi Luke,

SubRIP (SRT?) subtitles worked BUT only if I picked the subtitles as ON and "AUTO" did not work. The MKV did have the flag set for "Forced Subtitles" too, so expectation under AUTO was for it to automatically display where there was forced subs (like it does on ROKU and LG App). MKV had one subtitle track only in English.

This was the 1.5.3 (0) Apple TV app version (general release)

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