Stereo downmix missing in v2.0

[EmbyUser99 0]

My Android TV app auto-updated to 2.0.09 and I’ve noticed the option to downmix audio to stereo is now gone. Stats for nerds has “local decoding” for most unsupported audio formats now. Is this the same thing? If not, can I no longer downmix all audio to stereo?

[vdatanet 1586]

12 minutes ago, EmbyUser99 said:

My Android TV app auto-updated to 2.0.09 and I’ve noticed the option to downmix audio to stereo is now gone. Stats for nerds has “local decoding” for most unsupported audio formats now. Is this the same thing? If not, can I no longer downmix all audio to stereo?

There's a new option in playback settings, "Convert unsupported audio to dolby digital", disabled is similar to the old option downmix enabled.

Edited May 4, 2021 by vdatanet

[ebr 15667]

1 hour ago, EmbyUser99 said:

Stats for nerds has “local decoding” for most unsupported audio formats now. Is this the same thing?

Yes.

Is all your audio playing back okay?

[danbas 1]

21 hours ago, ebr said:

Yes.

Is all your audio playing back okay?

This is what has caused my recent troubles

Old Stereo downmix option = direct plays and works perfectly

Convert unsupported audio to DD = does not work and direct play errors on pretty much everything

 

[danbas 1]

What is the latest version I can downgrade to restore the old downmix to stereo option?

[vdatanet 1586]

5 minutes ago, dannyboy1234 said:

This is what has caused my recent troubles

Old Stereo downmix option = direct plays and works perfectly

Convert unsupported audio to DD = does not work and direct play errors on pretty much everything

 

Convert unsupported audio to DD disabled works for you?

[danbas 1]

8 minutes ago, vdatanet said:

Convert unsupported audio to DD disabled works for you?

No.

This device Chromecast for Google TV only direct plays with the older downmix to stereo option, which I have now successfully downgraded to and turned off auto updates. I'm usually playing Dolby true hd or DTS hd ma tracks which the device does not support

 

 

Edited May 5, 2021 by dannyboy1234

[ebr 15667]

13 minutes ago, dannyboy1234 said:

This device Chromecast for Google TV only direct plays with the older downmix to stereo option, which I have now successfully downgraded to and turned off auto updates. I'm usually playing Dolby true hd or DTS hd ma tracks which the device does not support

Turning off the convert option (which is actually the default state) should be identical to what it was doing before with downmix.  Can we please look at details of the issue you are having?

 

[danbas 1]

3 minutes ago, ebr said:

Turning off the convert option (which is actually the default state) should be identical to what it was doing before with downmix.  Can we please look at details of the issue you are having?

 

I have just now updated to latest version.

As you say the default state leaves the convert unsupported audio to DD disabled. Leaving this disabled (as well as enabled) gives me direct play error and causes transcoding and playback problems

 

[ebr 15667]

13 minutes ago, dannyboy1234 said:

Leaving this disabled (as well as enabled) gives me direct play error and causes transcoding and playback problems

Can we please look at an example of that?  Including sending a log from the app (instructions linked above).

[danbas 1]

15 hours ago, ebr said:

Can we please look at an example of that?  Including sending a log from the app (instructions linked above).

I've sent a log at 0542 EST time with convert unsupported audio to DD set to disabled (its default state). In stats for nerds it shows direct play error which causes transcoding, essentially making the file unwatchable due to playback issues, major stuttering etc

Edited May 6, 2021 by dannyboy1234

[ebr 15667]

2 hours ago, dannyboy1234 said:

causes transcoding, essentially making the file unwatchable due to playback issues, major stuttering etc

It is actually only causing a remux to convert the audio - which is failing on the direct attempt.  Have you manually told the device it supports TrueHD?  What is it connected to?

Also, can you please post the ffmpeg log from that playback?  There is really no reason why the remux shouldn't play fine.

[danbas 1]

24 minutes ago, ebr said:

It is actually only causing a remux to convert the audio - which is failing on the direct attempt.  Have you manually told the device it supports TrueHD?  What is it connected to?

Also, can you please post the ffmpeg log from that playback?  There is really no reason why the remux shouldn't play fine.

All I know is the local downmix option direct plays and works perfectly and with the new update and option that is disabled it shows direct play error and has major playback issues and says its transcoding. As far as I know the chromecast for google tv does not support high bitrate audio but the local downmix option resolved that problem. I have the chromecast connected to an LG C9 oled. 

How do I post the ffmpeg log?

Edited May 6, 2021 by dannyboy1234

[ebr 15667]

39 minutes ago, dannyboy1234 said:

How do I post the ffmpeg log?

Instructions are in that same link above.

If you go into the audio settings in the Android menus on the Chromecast itself, what is it set to?

[danbas 1]

3 hours ago, ebr said:

Instructions are in that same link above.

If you go into the audio settings in the Android menus on the Chromecast itself, what is it set to?

As I don't administrate the server I don't have access to those logs. I've attached my Chromecast audio setting which is set to auto. Along with before and after shots of the local downmix successfully working and the direct play error on v2

 

 

[ebr 15667]

If you select "Manual" in that menu, do you get the option to disable TrueHD?

[danbas 1]

30 minutes ago, ebr said:

If you select "Manual" in that menu, do you get the option to disable TrueHD?

No it lists 3 supported formats

1. Dolby Atmos in Dolby digital plus

2. Dolby digital

3. Dolby digital plus. 

and AAC under unsupported formats, each of which can be toggled on and off

[Carlo 4552]

Can you show a screen shot of the Manual config please?

[danbas 1]

6 minutes ago, cayars said:

Can you show a screen shot of the Manual config please?

Surround sound can be toggled off which I believe is the equivalent of manually turning off each format.

[Carlo 4552]

Sheez, how do you not support AAC?

[ebr 15667]

1 hour ago, dannyboy1234 said:

No it lists 3 supported formats

1. Dolby Atmos in Dolby digital plus

2. Dolby digital

3. Dolby digital plus. 

and AAC under unsupported formats, each of which can be toggled on and off

Yeah, that is what I would expect.  So the question is, why is the device reporting support for TrueHD...?

If you leave it in manual with those Dolby options turned off, does it play properly?

[danbas 1]

17 minutes ago, cayars said:

Sheez, how do you not support AAC?

I'm not sure why it shows that, i think its supported

[danbas 1]

57 minutes ago, ebr said:

Yeah, that is what I would expect.  So the question is, why is the device reporting support for TrueHD...?

If you leave it in manual with those Dolby options turned off, does it play properly?

Yes this appears to have fixed it, thanks! With truehd it now shows "(software decode)" in stats for nerds and is playing correctly. But with DTS hd ma, i had to turn off surround sound option in the chromecast settings entirely to get it to play correctly. The previous local downmix option worked with the auto chromecast audio setting and surround sound setting left toggled on.

Edited May 6, 2021 by dannyboy1234

[ebr 15667]

1 hour ago, dannyboy1234 said:

But with DTS hd ma

What was the state of the DTS checkboxes in the app playback settings?  Did you try un-checking those?

[danbas 1]

8 hours ago, ebr said:

What was the state of the DTS checkboxes in the app playback settings?  Did you try un-checking those?

The DTS check boxes only appear in auto audio mode. With those boxes unchecked DTS and DTS hd ma play fine but this is where I have playback issues with true hd.

For my setup the best solution is turning off surround sound. But with the old local downmix option I never had to touch the Chromecast audio settings, leaving surround sound on in auto mode was fine

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by dannyboy1234