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You might be right about the DS218, although it is unusual that there aren't any ffmpeg logs as I can see that it wants to transcode. @Luke?

If you put an 8K file in a USB device and connect it directly to the TV, does it play using the TV's built-in media player?

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yes, it works from USB device and using built in media player.  


I notice that one of the 3 files I have, starts correctly but failed 25 seconds later. this one is codec AV1, bitrate 13mbps = 104mbits and 30fps
the 2 others running correctly
codec HEVC , one is 13mbps = 104 mbits and 24fps ,
the other one codec HEVC is 27mbps = 216 mbits and 60fps

by the way, close to 4K but impressive on picture details !

so here is my thought : issue may be linked with bitrate limitation supported by my TV ? 
HEVC 8K bitrate supported is 100mbits
AV1 8K bitrate supported is 80 mbits

but one HEVC should not working because it reach 216 mbits which is not supported following TV specs....  

I test 2 others samples working well through USB :
HEVC 36mbps 30fps
HEVC 27mpbs 24fps

so it seems in some cases , I could go upper the TV bitrate specs

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through USB and built-in media player it does not work . it says it is not compliant. But I think it does not fit TV Specs.

I will test through emby anyway but I have an issue since last tizen update. I will revert

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ok . just test it on Emby. and it fails. 

here is media info :  resolution seems out of the TV specs  7680 x 4320 . So it is quite normal that I can't read it . Am I right ?

Titre

8K HEVC

Codec HEVC

Codec hvc1

Profil Main

Niveau 186

Résolution 8192x4096

Ratio d’aspect 2:1

Entrelacé Non

Images par seconde 23,976

Débit 138 mbps

Couleurs primaires bt709

Espace colorimétrique bt709

Transfert de couleur bt709

Profondeur des échantillons 8 bit

Format des pixels yuvj420p

Images de référence 1

 

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5 hours ago, romaing said:

Hello guys, 

any help on that issue ? 

Probably the bitrate is too high I would think. 

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FrostByte

The 100mb could be a streaming limit in the user's manual and probably related to Samsung TVs (and most others) only having a 100mb NIC.

Sometimes you can get away with exceeding the limits, but Samsung only tests to what is indicated in the manual.

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On 22/10/2022 at 07:11, SamES said:

As this is the specification in the docs, we've limited the width to 7680 for DirectPlay, so we are forcing a transcode.  I'm not sure why the transcode is failing.  I can transcode and play the Nasa 8K video on my 2017 4K TV, and I don't have a GPU in my server, it's all software transcoding.

Please try these two tests:

  • Turn off all GPU transcoding options, let's see if it can play with only software transcoding.  The playback might be choppy as transcoding won't be quick, but the test is to see if it plays at all.
  • Turn off all the transcode options for the user, this will force DirectPlay and ignore the width limitation.  This will confirm whether DirectPlay is possible.

Don't forget to press Save at the bottom of the screen after making this change

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These are only temporary tests, make sure you set the options back after each test or else you will create new problems

 

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it fails

here is a portion of the log file :

2022-10-25 17:48:05.794 Info SessionManager: Playback start reported by app Emby for Samsung 1.4.3 playing ghost towns 8k. Started at 0 ms
2022-10-25 17:48:05.839 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 204 to host3. Time: 153ms. http://emby_remote_ip:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing?X-Emby-Client=Emby for Samsung&X-Emby-Device-Name=Samsung Smart TV (QE65QN800ATXXC)&X-Emby-Device-Id=15f78a35-c261-46c1-b225-af0c2c768d82&X-Emby-Client-Version=1.4.3&reqformat=json
2022-10-25 17:48:05.858 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://emby_remote_ip:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Stopped?X-Emby-Client=Emby for Samsung&X-Emby-Device-Name=Samsung Smart TV (QE65QN800ATXXC)&X-Emby-Device-Id=15f78a35-c261-46c1-b225-af0c2c768d82&X-Emby-Client-Version=1.4.3&reqformat=json. UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (SMART-TV; LINUX; Tizen 6.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) 76.0.3809.146/6.0 TV Safari/537.36
2022-10-25 17:48:05.861 Debug App: ReportPlaybackStopped PlaySessionId: 29d6ca7013174e00b75122ad062be33a
2022-10-25 17:48:05.861 Info SessionManager: Playback stopped reported by app Emby for Samsung 1.4.3 playing ghost towns 8k. Stopped at 0 ms

here is screenshot of  my parameters for transcoding you request . if you could check. I think it's ok

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Did both tests failed?  Did you try them one at a time?  ie: first turn off GPU transcoding and test, then turn off the user transcoding options and test?

Did you test with the Nasa 8K video?

Any ffmpeg logs?

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