Filter by Decade

[arrbee99 1560]

Oh believe me, I don't have any trouble confusing myself...but anyway, as of 5 minutes ago I see this in Movies -

As you can see its got Decade collections, ordinary collections and ordinary movies (with group Items into collections ticked). As far as I can see / remember, I created Decades collections by adding movies to them manually, so those Decades collections are out of date, the individual movies just appear cause I forget to add them to the Decade collections.

[arrbee99 1560]

7 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

 

 

At least that's how I understood this:

  38 minutes ago, arrbee99 said:

then the movies would only appear in my Decade Collections, so no Aliens, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, Spiderman etc collections, just those 11 decade ones would show.

Yes, that was just wrong.

[GrimReaper 3308]

2 minutes ago, arrbee99 said:

As you can see its got Decade collections, ordinary collections and ordinary movies (with group Items into collections ticked). As far as I can see / remember, I created Decades collections by adding movies to them manually, so those Decades collections are out of date, the individual movies just appear cause I forget to add them to the Decade collections.

So I don't quite understand what is the issue you're having?

[rbjtech 4286]

10 minutes ago, arrbee99 said:

Oh believe me, I don't have any trouble confusing myself...but anyway, as of 5 minutes ago I see this in Movies -

As you can see its got Decade collections, ordinary collections and ordinary movies (with group Items into collections ticked). As far as I can see / remember, I created Decades collections by adding movies to them manually, so those Decades collections are out of date, the individual movies just appear cause I forget to add them to the Decade collections.

So if you add 'The Abyss' into your 1980's collection - I'm presuming all 4 will disappear from the screen right ?

If yes, then that seems a very odd way to do this - other than by searching, you need to KNOW what decade a movie is in to browse it ?

Showing all movies - or existing collections - and then just applying a 'filter' for the decade you want (which will then show all the individual movies for that decade AND any collection where one or more movies is from that Decade) - is surely a better solution ?

Edited April 21 by rbjtech

[arrbee99 1560]

1 minute ago, GrimReaper said:

So I don't quite understand what is the issue you're having?

Good question...I think it was, there's no filter by decade (obviously), and the workaround helped but I wanted to have Decades collections (that being the workaround) plus ordinary collections plus individual items showing up in Movies. So I guess its having a movie showing up in its decade collection as well as showing up individually in Movies, not either / or.

[GrimReaper 3308]

8 minutes ago, arrbee99 said:

So I guess its having a movie showing up in its decade collection as well as showing up individually in Movies, not either / or.

Having movies shown both in any collection AND individually was never supported, when "Group items into collections" was selected, regardless is it Decades Collection or any other franchise collection - it was always or.

Edit: FWIW I never keep that grouping, as Collections tab is just a click away and Decades collections are listed first in the list, so: individual movies in main movies library, Decades collections a tab/single click away.

Edited April 21 by GrimReaper

[arrbee99 1560]

1 minute ago, rbjtech said:

So if you add 'The Abyss' into your 1980's collection - I'm presuming all 4 will disappear from the screen right ?

If yes, then that seems a very odd way to do this - other than by searching, you need to KNOW what decade a movie is in to browse it ?

Showing all movies - or existing collections - and then just applying a 'filter' for the decade you want (which will then show all the individual movies for that decade AND any collection where a movie is from that Decade also) - is surely a better solution ?

Hence (I thought) effectively having movies showing up in two places, in a collection and individually. Though you're right, maybe I was somehow expecting different treatment for movies depending on whether they end up in normal Indiana Jones type collections vs Decade collections.

So yes applying a filter as you described does sound much better.

[arrbee99 1560]

Yes, me and managing to think of all the possibilities for a situation, not gonna happen

[arrbee99 1560]

I think I'm just going to delete my Decades collections, I'm never going to remember to add stuff to them and it just confuses the issue (well OK, me).

[user24 100]

2 hours ago, arrbee99 said:

I think I'm just going to delete my Decades collections, I'm never going to remember to add stuff to them and it just confuses the issue (well OK, me).

Have you tried experimenting with the Smart Playlists 2.0 plug-in? It can auto-create collections as well as playlists. It also can be set to auto-update, so you don't need to remember to add new items to the collection, once set up. I just did a very quick movie test with the following rules:

With my very limited movie collection in Emby (at the moment), it returned the following "2010s" collection:

Check out the dedicated plug-in forum topic to find out a lot more. (In the latest version there are a few non-critical bugs and sometimes you need to refresh your page to get it to work).

I've been using it successfully for Music Playlists, but haven't got it work nicely for Music Album Collections, as yet...

[arrbee99 1560]

'Have you tried experimenting with the Smart Playlists 2.0 plug-in?'

- no I haven't but I'll certainly be giving it a good once over (possibly several times in fact...) now that you've mentioned it.

[denzoid 42]

On 4/21/2024 at 7:40 PM, arrbee99 said:

'Have you tried experimenting with the Smart Playlists 2.0 plug-in?'

- no I haven't but I'll certainly be giving it a good once over (possibly several times in fact...) now that you've mentioned it.

It really works quite well, definitely give it a try.

[arrbee99 1560]

20 minutes ago, denzoid said:

It really works quite well, definitely give it a try.

I was thinking maybe I'd end up with something similar to way I was doing things...auto updating is good, but I'd still end up with every movie in a decade collection if I enable the Group Items into Collections thing (which I'd prefer to do).

[Junglejim 352]

7 hours ago, arrbee99 said:

I was thinking maybe I'd end up with something similar to way I was doing things...auto updating is good, but I'd still end up with every movie in a decade collection if I enable the Group Items into Collections thing (which I'd prefer to do).

I think you will enjoy smart playlists but they are just playlists/collections after all. Plus they are not displayed as a filtered library would be (playlist view etc.).

Filtering with tags sound promising, I run docker so that could be somewhat confusing..

I wish the devs could just add this filter to core server.

Anzac Day tomorrow, have a good one! Up for the dawn service?

Edited April 24 by Junglejim

[arrbee99 1560]

Well, hopefully rbjtech will be working more magic soon with tags...

Anzac Day I must admit reminds me how brave others can be - me, I'm not so sure...

[Junglejim 352]

On 25/04/2024 at 06:30, arrbee99 said:

Well, hopefully rbjtech will be working more magic soon with tags...

Anzac Day I must admit reminds me how brave others can be - me, I'm not so sure...

Yeah war sucks.

Tags filter sounds good, or as good. Just wondering if I can get that plugin working with a docker install?

[arrbee99 1560]

I skimmed a bit about the plugin. To me it seems a bit complicated to add a few tags. Am wondering if I really need to install portable mkvtoolnix to add the Decade or year or whatever is needed. I already have mkvtoolnix, but not the portable version. Is it needed for any form of tag, or maybe just for things like adding that Dolby Vision type stuff...

[Junglejim 352]

9 hours ago, arrbee99 said:

I skimmed a bit about the plugin. To me it seems a bit complicated to add a few tags. Am wondering if I really need to install portable mkvtoolnix to add the Decade or year or whatever is needed. I already have mkvtoolnix, but not the portable version. Is it needed for any form of tag, or maybe just for things like adding that Dolby Vision type stuff...

Yeah it does seem a bit over the top for a simple library filter. Using mkvtoolnix/mediainfo to write the tag to the media file is a bit complicated.

I don't think we need something that permanent and a tag in emby's db would be enough for me personally.

@TeamBClassification Mapper could be a good example, it writes classifications to the db plus tags for backup/restore features. It has a nice interface showing what is current and has a schedule to keep things updated.

Edited Sunday at 07:45 AM by Junglejim

[rbjtech 4286]

Agree - the primary purpose of the Plugin (as it's name suggests) is to actually modify the MKV and auto-name it with the proper media info.   In order to do this, it does need the external tools, mediainfo itself to identify (because ffmpeg cannot do it) and mkvtoolnix to write the mkv files (emby cannot do this either).   I've been adding tag functionality as a bonus - but it's a fair point that this plugin is not required to do this - any normal plugin without the extra files can do this just fine.   Any tags are not written to the MKV anyway, they are only written to the emby db.

I may remove some of the tag parts and make it a stand alone Plugin instead (with all the non mediainfo tag stuff).

[Junglejim 352]

2 minutes ago, rbjtech said:

Agree - the primary purpose of the Plugin (as it's name suggests) is to actually modify the MKV and auto-name it with the proper media info.   In order to do this, it does need the external tools, mediainfo itself to identify (because ffmpeg cannot do it) and mkvtoolnix to write the mkv files (emby cannot do this either).   I've been adding tag functionality as a bonus - but it's a fair point that this plugin is not required to do this - any normal plugin without the extra files can do this just fine.   Any tags are not written to the MKV anyway, they are only written to the emby db.

I may remove some of the tag parts and make it a stand alone Plugin instead (with all the non mediainfo tag stuff).

Nice, I edited my above post. You could take a look at @TeamBClassification Mapper if you haven't already. That could give you some ideas.

[rbjtech 4286]

6 minutes ago, Junglejim said:

Nice, I edited my above post. You could take a look at @TeamBClassification Mapper if you haven't already. That could give you some ideas.

I was just going to keep the Plugin format, but take out the non mediainfo tagging ..

[Junglejim 352]

1 minute ago, rbjtech said:

I was just going to keep the Plugin format, but take out the non mediainfo tagging ..

Sounds good! If you know the code already work with that.

[rbjtech 4286]

Just now, Junglejim said:

Sounds good! If you know the code already work with that.

I should do - I wrote it ... 

[Junglejim 352]

Just now, rbjtech said:

I should do - I wrote it ... 

LOL, Sorry . Will we still need mediainfo for this to work?

[rbjtech 4286]

44 minutes ago, Junglejim said:

LOL, Sorry . Will we still need mediainfo for this to work?

No - it will be a stand alone plugin.