Happy2Play 8282 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) I'd rather learn why it's happening. Where they are pointing to doesn't/shouldn't matter. The only variable should be TVDB as every series has a different tvdbid for the person, as they have unique images for ever actor. IMDB and TMDB ids are uninversal. So they would have to linked via a TMDB or IMDB id as TVDB is never the same. Edited July 8, 2019 by Happy2Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 The only variable should be TVDB as every series has a different tvdbid for the person, as they have unique images for ever actor. So that's the problem then. That's unfortunate because it means we can no longer use tvdb id's with people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 That's really a shame. That means with tvdb we can only match actors by name. That means if you have two different actors of the same name using tvdb data, there's no way to know if they're different people or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8282 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 So that's the problem then. That's unfortunate because it means we can no longer use tvdb id's with people. Well you must do it behind the scenes as there is never a tvdb link shown. Only TMDB and if available IMDB. TVDB has always been this way as they show character images specific to the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtimesandbox 152 Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 This is an image of the search on the new VM (brand new install / same library) https://imgur.com/a/SFJr5eo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Well you must do it behind the scenes as there is never a tvdb link shown. Only TMDB and if available IMDB. TVDB has always been this way as they show character images specific to the series. Yea, I just didn't realize the id was unique per series, so that means we can't use it anymore. I just pushed an update to the tvdb plugin so that it won't capture that value anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8282 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 So basically what users are seeing could be persons for every series they have in there collection do to different TVDBids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 So basically what users are seeing could be persons for every series they have in there collection do to different TVDBids. They could, yes, but the fact that this has not been widely reported suggests to me that the Id's we get from Tmdb is helping to prevent this from being a major problem. If you have Tmdb disabled then you'll be more likely to see this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Even though I'd like to get 4.2 released very soon, this probably warrants updating the tvdb plugin for the stable server too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8282 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) They could, yes, but the fact that this has not been widely reported suggests to me that the Id's we get from Tmdb is helping to prevent this from being a major problem. If you have Tmdb disabled then you'll be more likely to see this. How often to people actually search Actors? And I see how disabled providers would affect people. That is one reason I liked People having their own metadata options. ginjaninja showed this above but here is another example Adrianne Palicki https://www.thetvdb.com/series/marvels-agents-of-shield/actors/457042 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/the-orville/actors/424500 oops broke the links but you get the point when you see the person image. Edited July 8, 2019 by Happy2Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8282 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Even though I'd like to get 4.2 released very soon, this probably warrants updating the tvdb plugin for the stable server too. Unless there is a fix behind the scenes, what will users need to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I'm not sure yet. I don't think refreshing metadata on the series will blank out the value on each person. So that could be tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8282 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) I'm not sure yet. I don't think refreshing metadata on the series will blank out the value on each person. So that could be tricky. So how does purging the person from all the item found under one entry force them to the other entry when actor is re-added to the items? Edited July 8, 2019 by Happy2Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 If you delete an actor from all media they are assigned to, then run a library scan, then yes, that will purge that person out of your database and then you'll be fine after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8282 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 If you delete an actor from all media they are assigned to, then run a library scan, then yes, that will purge that person out of your database and then you'll be fine after that. So would the ability to delete that duplicate actor do the same things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I suppose, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levander 96 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 In the meantime It is possible to scrape tv shows metadata (and actors) from tmdb or imdb with tinymediamanager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The updated tvdb plugin should be available to all versions of emby server now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 536 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 works for me, 1 david tennant after removing media from library and readding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickyrat 2 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Did a search of the forums because I have this same issue. Some are old shows and movies, some are things after I migrated server to a new install. I tried removing the actor from one movie, doing a refresh, and it worked...but what a pain to have to do it to some of my animated films where there are 15 or so actors that are showing up as multiple People when I do a search. It sounds like from this forum chain that an option to "merge" or "link" actors has been requested. Is this a possibility? Instead of having to manually search every actor, and deleting and re-adding and refreshing? Thanks so much for all of the hard work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37066 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 It's possible for the future, although generally speaking more effort will be placed onto preventing it from happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade005 172 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 How often to people actually search Actors? And I see how disabled providers would affect people. That is one reason I liked People having their own metadata options. I would guess that not many do a search directly for Actor and that is likely why not many have reported issues. But, selecting an Actor from a Movie or Series with duplicate entries means you are not seeing all of their content in your library. I have started to run across a number of these now that I am aware (and I can't UNSEE) what I now know! I have cleaned up just a handful of duplicates where either TV Series or Movies were not being shown for an individual based on which media I entered from. Quite a tedious task to identify a duplicate, figure out which one has the least entries in it and delete Actor from this entry, REFRESH PEOPLE, remember which items you removed them from and perform a REFRESH ALL METADATA and REFRESH PEOPLE again. I hope that eventually there could be a more automated process for cleaning any duplicates entries. The ability to DELETE one of the two duplicate Actor entries in the Emby UI and a subsequent REFRESH PEOPLE scan to clean it up would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 536 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 How often to people actually search Actors? frequently... esp. after watching a movie. emby has almost been caught up in the usefulness of the cast searching function. not the most critical of functions but certainly a very high reason to use emby rather than the competition. Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgworek 121 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 yay! I just came across this. I've been struggling having actors showing up 2-4 times sometimes ever since the db upgrade and moving where the people metadata were saved. I was dealing with this last week trying to fix a couple of actors. I just read this thread this morning and while doing some testing, a handful of actors I know were coming up multipole times are only coming up once and all of their movies/shows listed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One2Go 98 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) Like many others I landed on this thread because of the actor images not being filled on TV shows as well as some movies. I went from EMBY version 3.* to staying at Emby version 4.01.0 because the nested folders display fine and I don't want to risk it with an update. However I also disabled ALL meta-data obtaining through Emby. I add a complete TV series or Movie with meta data obtained using Media Center Master and having the settings using XML files first and NFOs second. I have not noticed the duplicate actor images but then like many I never search for them. In the EMC client using @@throgmorton themes I just click on the actor and it displays the biography as well as any content that is on my server as well as what is not on my server that is all I use that feature for. I checked yesterday my meta data and have come to the conclusion that I need to use a routine when entering new content: 1. For movies and TV shows I now have to check for actor images. If they exist they are being displayed. If not I import the images that MCM found from the location ProgramData/MediaBrowser/ImagesByName/people/.. 9 out of 10 times this is successful unless on a little known actor. 2. For movies and TV shows I check is a studio image in the directory .../metadata/General which will display in Throg's themes for EMC. 3. For TV shows I need to enter manually the role for the actor. Did this with Veronica Mars yesterday as I added the show. It had the actors and some of the images but not their roles plus some outdated images for actors. 4. Finally, I check the meta-data and images in the meta-data manager. If everything is to my liking I lock the content. It would be nice to automate this but I also realize that this may resemble a Swiss Army knife approach it does the job somewhat, but not as good as a single dedicated, focused function/program. All of this is not a big deal IF YOU REMEMBER to do it when you add a show or movie. This is especially true when adding foreign language shows that have English subtitles. I do not remember that I did this while being on server version 3.* Edited July 25, 2019 by One2Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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