runtimesandbox 152 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Can we get the ability to manage and edit actor metadata? Preferably the ability to merge duplicate actor entries in to a single "profile" for the actor. For example, a search for "David Tennant" returns four different david tennants making the feature to see what other shows he has been in useless. https://imgur.com/a/5OcAS0k 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36886 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 It's not a bad idea, however while the latest version of the server handles this much better than in the past, and generally speaking you shouldn't see many new duplicates created anymore,at least not unless there is a valid reason for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtimesandbox 152 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Is there a way to fix duplicates now? Any db command that can be run to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36886 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Without a full database rebuild, I suppose one approach would be to remove all of the David Tennant entries from all items, then run a full library scan to have the actor entries deleted from the database. Then add him back to the items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtimesandbox 152 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 This was a relatively new install, i think from about 4.0 at the oldest. Has that much changed that would affect this since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36886 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Since 4.0, nothing really. I can't imagine that all those duplicates would be created with 4.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtimesandbox 152 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 Weird, this was a fresh install on a new windows box just after 4.0 was released. If I get time i'll set up another box and see if I get the same results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36886 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbes 429 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Would this include the merging of actors with musicians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36886 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Would this include the merging of actors with musicians? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1ng_Lear 183 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Thumps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levander 96 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 ...while the latest version of the server handles this much better than in the past, and generally speaking you shouldn't see many new duplicates created anymore,at least not unless there is a valid reason for it.Can you please elaborate on this? What does “you shouldn’t see MANY new duplicates created anymore” mean exactly? I started noticing people duplicates creating in last few days and I haven’t noticed that before except when there are different characters used by source in some cases (that should be the only valid reason I guess). New duplicates happened with names: Joan Collins and Molly Parker for example. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8144 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) Can you please elaborate on this? What does “you shouldn’t see MANY new duplicates created anymore” mean exactly? I started noticing people duplicates creating in last few days and I haven’t noticed that before except when there are different characters used by source in some cases (that should be the only valid reason I guess). New duplicates happened with names: Joan Collins and Molly Parker for example. Why is that? I have only seen duplicates, but never more that two so far as there is no way besides using search to see this issue. In my case one will have a path to \metadata\people and the other doesn't have a path so the new way \metadata\library. Curious to know what shows in edit metadata on each entry and what external ids are listed. In the duplicate actor I just found, the one with path to people folder has imdb and tmdb ids listed and the one without a path has no external ids. But I think some of this is from upgrading/database migration, as none of this should happen on new installation/new database because of the changes done to how the server does People now. I know in my case with the duplication (same actor with different db ids) removing the actor from all the items that are listed when you open the actor, doing a library scan and re-adding the actor to those items and scanning again place the item in the existing actor id. But that can be a lot of manual editing. Edited June 26, 2019 by Happy2Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levander 96 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) I have only seen duplicates, but never more that two so far as there is no way besides using search to see this issue. In my case one will have a path to \metadata\people and the other doesn't have a path so the new way \metadata\library. Curious to know what shows in edit metadata on each entry and what external ids are listed. In the duplicate actor I just found, the one with path to people folder has imdb and tmdb ids listed and the one without a path has no external ids. But I think some of this is from upgrading/database migration, as none of this should happen on new installation/new database because of the changes done to how the server does People now. I know in my case with the duplication (same actor with different db ids) removing the actor from all the items that are listed when you open the actor, doing a library scan and re-adding the actor to those items and scanning again place the item in the existing actor id. But that can be a lot of manual editing. This I can confirm: 1. Only one has path visible, other two don't. 2. All of them have same imdb and tmdb values visible and are same. 3. Ones without path contains each one TV Show listed and both of those shows were added in last 10 days (beta 4.2....) 4. The one with the path contains Movies and TV Shows, some of them were imported before emby 4.0 but most of it after Questions: 1. What does it mean that duplicated people are created without path and at the same time new people (imported as well last week in beta 4.2...) has path and image in metadata/people? 2. What I can do to stop emby to maintain metadata/people folders as it is obviously has new and better way to store people data? Obviously migration to 4.0 didn't work for me as it should (I learned it has some other unwanted issues) and fixing duplicate actors manually is unacceptable so what are the steps to start fresh database and what I can expect? Edited June 26, 2019 by levander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8144 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 OT: Technically Emby no longer uses metadata\people for any new actor. It will use the existing people images do to them still existing in the database. If one where to delete the database those images would no longer be used. There is a plugin that can backup the images and metadata from database and metadata\library and the ability to restore what you have in metadata\people. https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/63331-how-to-backup-people-images-with-beta-going-onwards But we still haven't figured out the cause of the duplication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levander 96 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) But we still haven't figured out the cause of the duplication. Thanks for clearing that up. But do you at least know for sure that duplications are happening ONLY in migrated (upgraded from 3. to 4:) libraries or does it happen in newly created ones? I am asking because I would then like to solve that by recreating the library from scratch. So I want to be sure that will solve the problem for me. (?) Edited June 27, 2019 by levander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36886 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 What do you mean migrated libraries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levander 96 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 What do you mean migrated libraries? I meant library upgraded in emby 4+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 533 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 i have three David Tennant's all with different pictures, removing him from the media metadata, temporary solves the issues, but if i refresh the metadata from the provider the duplicates come back again. 4.2.0.25. FWIW i completely removed the tv library and then readded again, made no difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtimesandbox 152 Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Thanks for clearing that up. But do you at least know for sure that duplications are happening ONLY in migrated (upgraded from 3. to 4:) libraries or does it happen in newly created ones? I am asking because I would then like to solve that by recreating the library from scratch. So I want to be sure that will solve the problem for me. (?) Fresh install on the latest stable server didn't produce any duplicates for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 533 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) Fresh install on the latest stable server didn't produce any duplicates for me must be something to do with library content...ive now done a fresh build on 4.2.0.25 and still have 3 David Tennants FWIW only 1st has bios, imdbid and tmdbid....2nd has just a picture and the 3rd has no metadata at all the 2nd's picture is coming from tvdb it seems https://www.thetvdb.com/series/doctor-who-2005, the 3rd object with no picture is coming from ...https://www.thetvdb.com/series/w1a/actors no nfos on file system.. Edited July 8, 2019 by ginjaninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36886 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 @@Happy2Play are you able to reproduce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtimesandbox 152 Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) By fresh install i meant I created a new VM and started completely from scratch but used the same source media library (files) In the original library as it stands I have 6 david tennants https://imgur.com/a/1jNVxx7 Edited July 8, 2019 by spudd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8144 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I will test, but I would think content is a factor in this. I have yet to come across a person shown more then twice in my library, one to \metadata\people and the other to \metadata\library. @@Luke Would the ability to delete a person via the UI resolve this issues, since purging and re-adding the actor from specific content forces the person to the other listed person? I guess that would be the same as a merge, but that is still subjective to your installation date, as 99% of my actors still point to \metadata\people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36886 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 @@Luke Would the ability to delete a person via the UI resolve this issues, since purging and re-adding the actor from specific content forces the person to the other listed person? I guess that would be the same as a merge, but that is still subjective to your installation date, as 99% of my actors still point to \metadata\people. I'd rather learn why it's happening. Where they are pointing to doesn't/shouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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