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#21 mastrmind11 OFFLINE  

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:19 PM

For clarity, is this encrypted or copy protected?

They're not the same thing and I'm confused.

Generally the pay channels like HBO etc are consistent across providers, and he mentioned Showtime so I assume encrypted.

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:23 PM

oooo, nevermind... I see M3U tuner option. I will have to test it and see if it works... Don't know how it will handle using 2 tuners and only showing 1 channel though.

I played around with this awhile back as an attempt at channel management.

 

I have several HDHR tuners and I could not find a method for a single M3U solution to cover all the tuners. So with 1 M3U per tuner I ended up with duplicate channels.

 

Don't know if there is a way to do it with a single M3U and multiple HDHR tuners, I couldn't figure it out.



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:25 PM

Encrypted does not equal DRM, I have many encrypted channels and no DRM channels.

 

All my encrypted channels function great within Emby using my CableCard for decryption.


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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:26 PM

Encrypted does not equal DRM, I have many encrypted channels and no DRM channels.

All my encrypted channels function great within Emby using my CableCard for decryption.

But you know what I mean.

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:27 PM

But you know what I mean.

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I do, Others do not. Hence confusion between the two terms.


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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:45 PM

If they're merely encrypted and you're using a Prime with a CableCARD why complicate things?

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 07:52 PM

I played around with this awhile back as an attempt at channel management.

 

I have several HDHR tuners and I could not find a method for a single M3U solution to cover all the tuners. So with 1 M3U per tuner I ended up with duplicate channels.

 

Don't know if there is a way to do it with a single M3U and multiple HDHR tuners, I couldn't figure it out.

 

I know tvheadend handles this issue well. As I said earlier, I don't know yet how Emby via M3U tuner will handle it yet. Anyone already know the answer?



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:01 PM

I'm still not sure it will address the problem..   Today if you have ONE hdhomerunprime you have a three stream limit right?   If I add a second hdhomerunprime i now have a 6 stream limit right?  The channels dont double up,  so I dont have two channel 5 news in the EPG right?    this is good.

 

However if i have ONE IPTV M3u that has a 3 stream limit,  and add a SECOND iptv m3u tuner with a 3 stream limit (just like the example above) I now have two sets of all of the channels, each with three stream limits on each channel...     This is not the desired result...   I should have a single set of channels each with a SIX stream limit just like the hdhomerunprime example above.    

 

We need the ability to group, or say these two IPTV m3u's each with their own stream limit need to show as a single channel group just with more stream limits...  

 

 

I know tvheadend handles this issue well. As I said earlier, I don't know yet how Emby via M3U tuner will handle it yet. Anyone already know the answer?

 

Has this been addressed in the 4.0 release?


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Posted 18 January 2019 - 08:24 PM

I know tvheadend has a method to handle this...

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 04:43 PM

I know tvheadend has a method to handle this...
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Yea it groups them. But if each m3u is only allowed 3 streams how does it know that? And how does it monitor emby s usage of the streams If using m3u method to get streams into emby?


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Posted 19 January 2019 - 05:13 PM

Yea it groups them. But if each m3u is only allowed 3 streams how does it know that? And how does it monitor emby s usage of the streams If using m3u method to get streams into emby?


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When you create the network for each tuner, you specify the number streams... TVheadend manages the concurrent streams. once the max number of streams is reached, emby will give an error that there are no streams available.

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 05:17 PM

Waiting on confirmation this works wo tvheadend. Not urgent

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 08:08 PM

When you create the network for each tuner, you specify the number streams... TVheadend manages the concurrent streams. once the max number of streams is reached, emby will give an error that there are no streams available.

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Gotcha...  Thx

 

 

Waiting on confirmation this works wo tvheadend. Not urgent

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Yea me too... I don't want to have to install another server software when I think emby could do it out of the box... just a cleaner setup...     But ill keep TVHeadend in my back pocket for sure..



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Posted 19 January 2019 - 08:10 PM

Gotcha...  Thx

 

 

 

Yea me too... I don't want to have to install another server software when I think emby could do it out of the box... just a cleaner setup...     But ill keep TVHeadend in my back pocket for sure..

Agreed on all accounts, we only set this up to solve for our issue. If Emby can support "pooling" available streams to individual channels I'd be happy.



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Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:48 PM

@robrhedrick, got a few questions for you.
First I notice your Showtime East is using DTCP which is DRM.  If you look at this channel in the web app for the Prime in the Channel Lineup screen it says DRM to the right correct?
 
Do you have a sdv tuning adapter in your setup for each prime? This is a device plugged into the USB port on the back of the Prime that would be given to you by your cable company along with the Cable Card.
 
When you play this channel back (when it's working) and look at the tuner status for that specific tuner does it show:
Authorization subscribed
CCI Protection protected-copyonce
if not what does it show for those 2 lines?
 
Lastly, if you have VLC.  Try this for me.  Open a network stream (media menu) and paste in:
http://10.50.3.250:5004/auto/v578?CONTENTPROTECTIONTYPE=DTCP1&DTCP1HOST=10.50.3.250&DTCP1PORT=8888
 
Does this play?
 
Thanks for any of that info you can supply!
Carlo

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 06:35 PM

Adding 2 m3u tuners with identical channel information shows 2 channels for each :/

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 08:59 PM

Adding 2 m3u tuners with identical channel information shows 2 channels for each :/

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