Luke 37134 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Why exactly don't you like the convert feature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 its not a comparable function No way to mark chapters No control of ffmpeg options IIRC does not run straight away As i outlined back in the OP some channels (if we could easily identify which channel they were recorded from) benefit from different setting when converting/processing All i want is a single extra parameter returned that identifies the channel it was recorded on - should be simple and straightforward You agreed back in November that this option made sense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadHodge 1 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) its not a comparable function No way to mark chapters No control of ffmpeg options IIRC does not run straight away As i outlined back in the OP some channels (if we could easily identify which channel they were recorded from) benefit from different setting when converting/processing All i want is a single extra parameter returned that identifies the channel it was recorded on - should be simple and straightforward You agreed back in November that this option made sense Here is a sample of the info that hdhomerun tuner makes available to emby (and everyone): Available Channels: {"GuideNumber":"8.1","GuideName":"KFMB-DT","VideoCodec":"MPEG2","AudioCodec":"AC3","HD":1,"URL":"http://192.168.0.201:5004/auto/v8.1"} {"GuideNumber":"8.2","GuideName":"KFMB CW","VideoCodec":"MPEG2","AudioCodec":"AC3","HD":1,"URL":"http://192.168.0.201:5004/auto/v8.2"} {"GuideNumber":"8.3","GuideName":"Grit TV","VideoCodec":"MPEG2","AudioCodec":"AC3","URL":"http://192.168.0.201:5004/auto/v8.3"} So Im thinking if emby passed you a key or index they might enhance their API to provide you access to all this info and more, Edited February 27, 2019 by HeadHodge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Having the channel number would be extremely useful for comskip usage and would allow more powerful usage. Basically comskip allows the use of DIFFERENT settings based channel number. So you could use one set of settings for ABC and another set for Hallmark while BBC, HBO, Showtime, etc channels could skip detection completely as they have no typical commercials. Along the same lines. I would also like a PRE-Processing section just like post-processing. All the same info available (ie channel, path, etc). Reason is again due to functionality of comskip. Comskip can be setup to start scanning files while they are being recorded. It scans the files, catches up, waits, then continues until finished. Being able to start this commercial detection would save overall time in commercial detection. The post processing script would be setup to wait until the PRE process finishes (won't be long) then could start working with the fully written EDL files and start re-writing the file either without the commercials or with chapter marks. Another advantage of this is that it spreads out the comskip CPU use pretty evenly throughout the recording phase vs heavier processing after it's done recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2500 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Having the channel number would be extremely useful for comskip usage and would allow more powerful usage. Basically comskip allows the use of DIFFERENT settings based channel number. So you could use one set of settings for ABC and another set for Hallmark while BBC, HBO, Showtime, etc channels could skip detection completely as they have no typical commercials. Along the same lines. I would also like a PRE-Processing section just like post-processing. All the same info available (ie channel, path, etc). Reason is again due to functionality of comskip. Comskip can be setup to start scanning files while they are being recorded. It scans the files, catches up, waits, then continues until finished. Being able to start this commercial detection would save overall time in commercial detection. The post processing script would be setup to wait until the PRE process finishes (won't be long) then could start working with the fully written EDL files and start re-writing the file either without the commercials or with chapter marks. Another advantage of this is that it spreads out the comskip CPU use pretty evenly throughout the recording phase vs heavier processing after it's done recording. asked for pre processing for exactly that purpose 3-4 months ago. Was roundly ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I asked for it and mentioned it in other posts as well but don't think I ever made a formal request for it (shame on me). Got a link to your request? I'm sure we could rally support for this especially if we sweeten the deal. I'm sure a few of us could put together some sweet pre/post processing scripts that everyone could use which would essentially bring commercial cutting/marking to Emby. These could even be included. I'd certainly volunteer to take part or provide said scripts. I'd much rather have this "built in" vs using MCEBuddy which is finicky at times. I just haven't bothered because there is no motivation to move from MCEBuddy without the PRE option OR channel numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2500 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) I asked for it and mentioned it in other posts as well but don't think I ever made a formal request for it (shame on me). Got a link to your request? I'm sure we could rally support for this especially if we sweeten the deal. I'm sure a few of us could put together some sweet pre/post processing scripts that everyone could use which would essentially bring commercial cutting/marking to Emby. These could even be included. I'd certainly volunteer to take part or provide said scripts. I'd much rather have this "built in" vs using MCEBuddy which is finicky at times. I just haven't bothered because there is no motivation to move from MCEBuddy without the PRE option OR channel numbers. i think we have the scripts even, just not the functionality from emby to kick them off when a recording starts. Said at the time this could be used to replace the removed recordings conversion process as well as things like comskip for commercial detection. I’ll find the request Here it is https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/62996-Recorded-TV---In-Progress-Processing Edited February 28, 2019 by Spaceboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Here is a sample of the info that hdhomerun tuner makes available to emby (and everyone): Available Channels: {"GuideNumber":"8.1","GuideName":"KFMB-DT","VideoCodec":"MPEG2","AudioCodec":"AC3","HD":1,"URL":"http://192.168.0.201:5004/auto/v8.1"} {"GuideNumber":"8.2","GuideName":"KFMB CW","VideoCodec":"MPEG2","AudioCodec":"AC3","HD":1,"URL":"http://192.168.0.201:5004/auto/v8.2"} {"GuideNumber":"8.3","GuideName":"Grit TV","VideoCodec":"MPEG2","AudioCodec":"AC3","URL":"http://192.168.0.201:5004/auto/v8.3"} So Im thinking if emby passed you a key or index they might enhance their API to provide you access to all this info and more, yes - Ideally the Channel/Guide Number and the Name (Name on its own would not work as we might have the same "Channel" from multiple tuners/m3u's) - the PP script can then apply the appropriate options to the recording - based on a simple lookup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 i think we have the scripts even, just not the functionality from emby to kick them off when a recording starts. Said at the time this could be used to replace the removed recordings conversion process as well as things like comskip for commercial detection. I’ll find the request Here it is https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/62996-Recorded-TV---In-Progress-Processing Yes well it's no wonder it didn't go anywhere. I hijacked the crap out of it "over thinking" the very simple request you made. Sorry about that. I am however still very excited about the possibilities that the "Pre" and channel ID/station options would give us (for all kinds of things). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2500 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Yes well it's no wonder it didn't go anywhere. I hijacked the crap out of it "over thinking" the very simple request you made. Sorry about that. I am however still very excited about the possibilities that the "Pre" and channel ID/station options would give us (for all kinds of things). [emoji3] no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37134 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 its not a comparable function No way to mark chapters No control of ffmpeg options IIRC does not run straight away As i outlined back in the OP some channels (if we could easily identify which channel they were recorded from) benefit from different setting when converting/processing All i want is a single extra parameter returned that identifies the channel it was recorded on - should be simple and straightforward You agreed back in November that this option made sense When you say marking chapters, do you mean custom chapters, or do you want chapters from the source preserved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 no - they are from comskip - live tv does not have chapters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37134 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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