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otispresley

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The biggest issue is that sometimes it's multiple qualities and other times it's multiple cuts. The latter should be handled differently to the former.

 

They're easy enough to tell apart though. Something designating them as different cuts if the runtime differs by more than ten seconds should be sufficient.

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+1 for this feature.

I create at least 2 versions of a movie from my purchased DVDs, Blurays and UHDs ...

DVD = 1 version = SD (480p AAC)
Bluray = 2 versions = HD (720p AC3) + FHD (1080p DTS)
4K = 1 version = UHD (2160p Atmos)

... which are named as follows in the movie folder ...

Movie Name (YEAR) - SD.mp4
Movie Name (YEAR) - HD.mp4
Movie Name (YEAR) - FHD.mkv
Movie Name (YEAR) - UHD.mkv

... and which direct play on all my devices and for friends across the internet ...

... which is why I do it.

It would be great, if I could specify the default version of 'HD' (if it exists) otherwise 'the only one version found'.

Just thought - even better, would be the ability to specify in which order they are prioritised (based on the correct file naming convention).

e.g.

HD
FHD
SD
UHD

Please give it this idea some consideration and keep up the great work.

Regards,

😃

Paully

 

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I have a related concern to the multiple cuts or versions.  It would be great to have a way to specify which version of a film should appear as the default in the pulldown.

The automatic determination works okay for the situations where you have multiple resolutions of the same film.  In that case, Emby correctly selects the one with the highest resolution.  However I have the case where both versions of the same movie have the same resolution.  Emby seems to go with the lower quality version.

For instance I have 2 versions of the same movie:

Night of the Living Dead [1968] - Theatrical Version

Night of the Living Dead [1968] - Night of Anubis Workprint

 

They are both 1080p, but the theatrical version which I want to be the default is the higher quality version, so it always picks the Night of Anubis Workprint version instead.  I tried various tricks with the filenames but nothing gave me the desired behavior.  

I know this has been bantered about for years, but it would be great to have a way to flag the default version.

Thanks.

 

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13 hours ago, GothsterC said:

I have a related concern to the multiple cuts or versions.  It would be great to have a way to specify which version of a film should appear as the default in the pulldown.

The automatic determination works okay for the situations where you have multiple resolutions of the same film.  In that case, Emby correctly selects the one with the highest resolution.  However I have the case where both versions of the same movie have the same resolution.  Emby seems to go with the lower quality version.

For instance I have 2 versions of the same movie:

Night of the Living Dead [1968] - Theatrical Version

Night of the Living Dead [1968] - Night of Anubis Workprint

 

They are both 1080p, but the theatrical version which I want to be the default is the higher quality version, so it always picks the Night of Anubis Workprint version instead.  I tried various tricks with the filenames but nothing gave me the desired behavior.  

I know this has been bantered about for years, but it would be great to have a way to flag the default version.

Thanks.

 

I really don't think this particular request is the right answer to your issue.  The multi-version feature is designed for multiple qualities of the same item as opposed to different cuts.  While it can be used for different cuts, it has these types of limitations.  Instead of continuing to try and satisfy both of those situations with the same feature, I really think we need a different way to handle multiple cuts because marking one of these as "default" then negates some of the functionality that this feature is actually designed for.

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3 minutes ago, ebr said:

I really don't think this particular request is the right answer to your issue.  The multi-version feature is designed for multiple qualities of the same item as opposed to different cuts.  While it can be used for different cuts, it has these types of limitations.  Instead of continuing to try and satisfy both of those situations with the same feature, I really think we need a different way to handle multiple cuts because marking one of these as "default" then negates some of the functionality that this feature is actually designed for.

Fair comment.

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I've honestly not really had any issue with this now? It just won't show you 'cuts'. Everything will get dumped into the same piece of artwork. If you put a 4k copy of the movie and a 1080p copy of the movie (or really any two copies of the movie) in there if will pick them both up and lump them together and let you pick which file you want to play. Incidentally, this also lets you start the 4k version, pause it, and resume the 1080 version at the same place (presuming all the time stamps line up). 

If you wanted 'Extra Cuts' I don't think this would be a big deal. Just name your files as such and you'll see the file name in the little drop down list. If you want a completely separate copy of the movie you can just manually identify it as well and hit the little lock and it will make it a whole separate movie within emby.

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Yes, but then it sometimes selects a terrible special edition cut as the default, or you watch a shorter cut the entire way through but it shows up in "continue watching" because it's comparing the amount you watched to the longer cut, or you watch part of a longer cut and it doesn't show up in Continue Watching because it's comparing the amount you watched to the shorter cut. 

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4 hours ago, crusher11 said:

Yes, but then it sometimes selects a terrible special edition cut as the default, or you watch a shorter cut the entire way through but it shows up in "continue watching" because it's comparing the amount you watched to the longer cut, or you watch part of a longer cut and it doesn't show up in Continue Watching because it's comparing the amount you watched to the shorter cut. 

And that's because the feature wasn't really designed for that use (different cuts) as I've already explained.  This FR is the wrong way to solve that problem IMO (see above).

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15 hours ago, ebr said:

And that's because the feature wasn't really designed for that use (different cuts) as I've already explained.  This FR is the wrong way to solve that problem IMO (see above).

I'm only responding to @thelanranger's claim that it currently works just fine for alternate cuts. Which, as you say, it doesn't.

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I hope this is a ok place to ask this question but I was wondering if on the actual playing screen if the version could be displayed something like Netflix, Apple TV etc...

And if I'm thinking correctly because it's added to the play screen (media player) it should work for all devices correct? web browser, appletv, roku, shield tv etc... Screenshot_2.thumb.jpg.2e83427ab4c235247d95e3aae73f1a05.jpg

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23 hours ago, STR8 said:

I hope this is a ok place to ask this question but I was wondering if on the actual playing screen if the version could be displayed something like Netflix, Apple TV etc...

And if I'm thinking correctly because it's added to the play screen (media player) it should work for all devices correct? web browser, appletv, roku, shield tv etc... Screenshot_2.thumb.jpg.2e83427ab4c235247d95e3aae73f1a05.jpg

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The next release will have an info button with more detailed information about the source video.

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avitali

Wouldn't it be able to add the possibility to change what order multiple versions of the same movie should be in?

It's kind of annoying to see a lot of people request this feature, yet after years there's no change...

The way it's now is just pretty bad for people with different versions or encodes...

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2 hours ago, avitali said:

 

The way it's now is just pretty bad for people with different encodes...

If you use this for different encodes, then what exactly is the issue? It chooses the one that will be most efficient to play on the device you're playing from. How would alphabetical be an improvement over that?

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avitali
16 hours ago, Luke said:

If you use this for different encodes, then what exactly is the issue? It chooses the one that will be most efficient to play on the device you're playing from. How would alphabetical be an improvement over that?

It doesn't seem to work for me. In one example, I have an 8-GB H265 (mkv, AAC7.1) file, which I reencoded to an H264 mp4 AAC 2.0, with a file size of about 5GB. Still emby chooses the H265 version over the H264 one. Which I just don't understand...

Sometimes I have 720p as well as 1080p versions as well, where I'd always want emby to choose the 1080p one, as it has a higher resolution. I'd also like for emby to go for the better quality versions as well usually...

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RaptorCentauri

Adding my +1 for this feature. This would be especially useful for different version that vary greatly by run time. Think Snyder Cut of Justice League or the Extended LOTR compared to the theatrical cuts. Users aren't always aware of a multiple choices on the server, and they may end up watching a 4 hour movie instead of a 2 hour one. At minimum I would like to see some way for the server admin to designate the movie version that will be played by default.

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8 hours ago, RaptorCentauri said:

Adding my +1 for this feature. This would be especially useful for different version that vary greatly by run time. Think Snyder Cut of Justice League or the Extended LOTR compared to the theatrical cuts. Users aren't always aware of a multiple choices on the server, and they may end up watching a 4 hour movie instead of a 2 hour one. At minimum I would like to see some way for the server admin to designate the movie version that will be played by default.

Yes, we  understand that and it is discussed here already.  Please see:

 

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MrLinford

One of my TVs is 720p, and it defaults to the 4K version.

Maybe an option to be added so you can force a client to default to a version..

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3 hours ago, MrLinford said:

One of my TVs is 720p, and it defaults to the 4K version.

Does that version still direct play?  Or, if it transcodes, do all the versions transcode or can one of them direct play?

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MrLinford

I will double check but I think the 1080P would direct play where the 4K would need transcoded.

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8 minutes ago, MrLinford said:

I will double check but I think the 1080P would direct play where the 4K would need transcoded.

Please double-check because that should not be the case.

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2 hours ago, MrLinford said:

I will double check but I think the 1080P would direct play where the 4K would need transcoded.

It would need to be downscaled, no?

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