mastrmind11 722 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Why not make it toggle-able? I'd love to know what the box is doing w/o having to tail the logs all the time.
FrostByte 5260 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Why not make it toggle-able? I'd love to know what the box is doing w/o having to tail the logs all the time. Some of the clients (Samsung SmartTV app for one) will tell you in the OSD when bringing up the controls if it's DPing, DSing, Transcoding audio only, etc
mastrmind11 722 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Some of the clients (Samsung SmartTV app for one) will tell you in the OSD when bringing up the controls if it's DPing, DSing, Transcoding audio only, etc Does ATV? If so, how do I access it?
Guest asrequested Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 I think it would good for the dashboard to provide a little more information on this. You know, for us geeks 2
CBers 7123 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 We are not pandering to Plex users. We are competing in an open marketplace. If you walk into a store and see two products that do the same basic thing and one of them says "this one is better" even though both of them do the exact same thing the exact same way, most people will pick the one that claims to be "better". And, in the world of the internet, they will then go out to every forum of which they are a member and post with authority the fact that the one they picked is better. Yes, but not stating exactly what is happening is a bit misleading. Most of us are long-time users, so know the difference, but new users will think one thing, only to find out down the line that it is in fact something else.
Guest asrequested Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Well, clearly there is confusion around this, based on what would seem to be ambiguity. I think if the dashboard reported exactly what it was doing, I think it would go a long way to resolving this. 2
legallink 187 Posted January 13, 2017 Author Posted January 13, 2017 While from the tech side of things I agree, I think sometimes from a product basis, you have to make choices on information overload to the end non-technical user. If they were going to get into specifics where the industry standard is not to give specifics, it would be an "advanced" dispaly of some sort in the dashboard.
Guest asrequested Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 While from the tech side of things I agree, I think sometimes from a product basis, you have to make choices on information overload to the end non-technical user. If they were going to get into specifics where the industry standard is not to give specifics, it would be an "advanced" dispaly of some sort in the dashboard. I agree. But how about something that an administrator can access quickly to check and see what is occurring.
speechles 2014 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 How about if logged in as an administrator we get that "advanced" display. Where it has the extra information shown on the tile when directstream/remux/transcode. presently: transcoding h264 aac ts possible future: ts v:trans h264 a:copy aac 2ch Also if the currently being played by whoever tile is clicked in the image area why doesnt it go to that item in the library? Clicking on the tile does nothing. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
ebr 15680 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Everyone who is making the decision of which product to use is an administrator.
speechles 2014 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Indeed, and the competition shows this information (copy/trans per stream) for administrators. Notice thats all that needs adding. I changed the ordering so audio could have channel count and not get confused with the container. Channel count isnt so important, but while you are there ya know how it goes. You ask for more than you expect to get. The click on tile and go nowhere. Can that go to whatever is playing? Edited January 13, 2017 by speechles
Guest asrequested Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) How about if logged in as an administrator we get that "advanced" display. Where it has the extra information shown on the tile when directstream/remux/transcode. presently: transcoding h264 aac ts possible future: ts v:trans h264 a:copy aac 2ch Also if the currently being played by whoever tile is clicked in the image area why doesnt it go to that item in the library? Clicking on the tile does nothing. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Or simply have an info button next to where it says direct streaming or transcoding, that has a popup with what is occurring? Edited January 14, 2017 by Doofus
legallink 187 Posted January 13, 2017 Author Posted January 13, 2017 Yowzas, who knew this topic would set off such a discussion....here I thought I was asking a simply benign question.
Guest asrequested Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Lol... It's not the first time this discussion has come up. Which speaks to having something done about it
MSattler 389 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Yowzas, who knew this topic would set off such a discussion....here I thought I was asking a simply benign question. This happens every 6-9 months. Thanks!
clarkss12 299 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk I want one, but will need a mirror (or two). Hard for me to remember what I have read on here today.
Midaz 3 Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 On 1/12/2017 at 9:16 PM, Luke said: Yes people thought we were inferior because ours said Transcoding and their said Direct Stream. Or ours said Direct Stream and theirs said Direct Play. In our case nowadays Direct Stream means a container swap is happening. I really dont understand it well . !! My emby say. Direct streaming . Files. In .mkv. ( But i run. .mkv on tv. By usb. Without problem ( emby is showing that. Is performing transcoding )??
ebr 15680 Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Midaz said: I really dont understand it well . !! My emby say. Direct streaming . Files. In .mkv. ( But i run. .mkv on tv. By usb. Without problem ( emby is showing that. Is performing transcoding )?? No. If it says Direct Streaming, it is not transcoding.
speechles 2014 Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) TransCODing means the video stream inside has an invalid CODec for the device you are attempting to play on (or the subtitle to be applied is burnt in, and many other reasons: bitrate restriction, playback error correction fallback, etc). You only see "cod" when converting the video codec(..or burn anything into it) is required. Anything with direct means the streams are all copied. Direct Stream means the container was not compatible. Remux means the container and audio codec were not compatible. Edited July 13, 2020 by speechles
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