d3lta 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Hello, we have about 300/400 concurrent users.. We are running a modified Plex Web Server right now, all clients access plex server by web with google chrome and our library is completly m4v h.264 aac. Plex doesn’t need to transcode (it’s disabled) because plex web and chrome support “direct play” Direct Streaming Now we want to use Mediabrowser because of the build in user management and better simple layout. but with same clients and library with mp4/m4v h.264 files, media browser 3 always transcodes the files??? Why can plex and chrome do this without transcoding? can i fix this for media browser 3? Edited January 8, 2014 by d3lta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37250 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Just haven't gotten to it yet for the web xlient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37250 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I will try to get it to into the next server release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 I will try to get it to into the next server release That would be great! Next stable release or beta release? Can you tell me here when it will be released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 You can track the projects and individual issues here: https://github.com/MediaBrowser If you have an account, you can watch projects and get updated when they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 That would be great! Next stable release or beta release? Can you tell me here when it will be released? Thanks alot! Newest Dev had direct stream option and is working perfect! Only one issues right now. If i have multiple users and library per user, if 2 users share same folder, the second users doesn't see any video's, even in library browser for that users there are no video's in that folder. if u understand what i mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) can someone tell me why direct stream is working but very inconsistent? i have a m4v file streaming optimized Plex plays it perfectly no transcoding, but mediabrowser transcode's it and no direct play option. why doesn't it just work ? mediainfo on file General Complete name : \\10.100.0.54\-Media-Share-\Video\Documentaires\World War II In HD\World War II in HD Colour.S01E01.The Gathering Storm.m4v Format : MPEG-4 Codec ID : M4V File size : 1.24 GiB Duration : 51mn 15s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 3 467 Kbps Writing application : Lavf55.10.1 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames Format settings, GOP : M=4, N=32 Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 51mn 15s Bit rate : 3 153 Kbps Width : 1 280 pixels Height : 720 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 25.000 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.137 Stream size : 1.13 GiB (91%) Tagged date : UTC 2014-01-23 11:15:05 Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format profile : LC Codec ID : 40 Duration : 51mn 15s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 160 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : Front: L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 58.8 MiB (5%) Tagged date : UTC 2014-01-23 11:15:05 Plex file information MEDIA Duur 51:16 Bitrate 3467 kbps Width 1280 Height 720 Aspect Ratio 1.78 Video Resolutie 720p Houder MP4 Video Frame Rate PAL Optimized For Streaming 1 BESTAND Accessible Yes Exists Yes Duur 51:16 Bestand M:\-Media-Share-\Video\Documentaires\World War II In HD\World War II in HD Colour.S01E01.The Gathering Storm.m4v Size 1.24 GB Houder MP4 Has 64bit Offsets 0 Optimized For Streaming 1 VIDEO Codec H264 Bitrate 3153 kbps Bit Depth 8 CABAC 1 Chroma Subsampling 4:2:0 Color Space yuv Duur 51:15 Frame Rate 25.000 fps Frame Rate Mode cfr Has Scaling Matrix 0 Height 720 Level 4.1 Profiel high Ref Frames 2 Scan Type progressive Width 1280 AUDIO Codec AAC Kanalen Stereo Bitrate 160 kbps Bitrate Mode VBR Duur 51:15 Profiel lc Sampling Rate 48000 Hz Edited January 23, 2014 by d3lta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37250 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 you need to give us more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 you need to give us more information. Tell me what you need then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37250 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 what app you're trying to use. steps to reproduce the problem. what exactly the problem is. and anything else you can possibly think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 what app you're trying to use. steps to reproduce the problem. what exactly the problem is. and anything else you can possibly think of. App? where are talking about web streaming with browser... See above for all media info, also tried H264 baseline profile... same issue no direct option in webplayer ( chrome ) With plex web client no issue, direct stream working no transcoding. need transcoding log ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Yes please Here are server and transcoding logs for 2 files First file is played by browser direct second file direct play isn't possible need mediainfo from both files? ffmpeg-d1754a78-3b2b-4b69-83c9-578d30638549.txt server-63526091114.log Edited January 23, 2014 by d3lta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Here are the media info data on both files Havo Engels 2014.m4v.txt World War II in HD Colour.S01E13.Victory in the Pacific.m4v.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Your video is over 3 megabits per second. On the MediaBrowser app for iPhone, this is the default bitrate that it will play locally without transcoding. Check your devices to see if you can set the bitrate a little higher without adverse affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37250 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37250 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 what's the media info on the detail page in the web client? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37250 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yea please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 24, 2014 Author Share Posted January 24, 2014 what's the media info on the detail page in the web client? Where can i find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted January 24, 2014 Author Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Your video is over 3 megabits per second. On the MediaBrowser app for iPhone, this is the default bitrate that it will play locally without transcoding. Check your devices to see if you can set the bitrate a little higher without adverse affect. This is pure web based, i don't know if there is a max bitrate in webclient when accessing mb3 with browser? @edit Have tried other file with bitrate 238kbps, same issue, so it is not bitrate thats causing it. see attachment for file info DeployWindows7TheEasyWay_2MB_edge.m4v.txt Edited January 24, 2014 by d3lta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) ** Update ** it seems like encoding with CABAC enabled makes option "direct" visable. is there a way that i can force the direct play option? or maybe disable transcoding ? Any updates on this issue? with new dev builds i still have same issue.. maybe there is a way that i can force "direct play" my complete library is "direct play" ready I really hope this issues can be fixed, we really need it i will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance Edited February 4, 2014 by d3lta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Why is this question ignored and nobody willing to answer it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikuf 663 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Just because no one has said anything for a few day doesn't mean it is being ignored. We are but a few and there are a lot of changes to transcoding coming. Please be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Just because no one has said anything for a few day doesn't mean it is being ignored. We are but a few and there are a lot of changes to transcoding coming. Please be patient. Thats good news.. in the mean time is there a option to force direct transcoding? by changing some server settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikuf 663 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I would suggest the best way for you to achieve what you want would be to customise the dashboard-ui\scripts\mediaplayer.js so that it plays all files static (direct stream). You are likely to run into a few hurdles but that would be your best bet to disable transcoding totally in the webclient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3lta 0 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 I would suggest the best way for you to achieve what you want would be to customise the dashboard-ui\scripts\mediaplayer.js so that it plays all files static (direct stream). You are likely to run into a few hurdles but that would be your best bet to disable transcoding totally in the webclient. Can you give me a hint/example what to change? so i can test it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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