Some fanart not downloading

December 27, 2015

Hi

Recently I noticed that some fanart is not downloading automatically, specifically cleararts,banners, discs. I checked the sever and metadata settings are they are all selcted accordingly.

Anyone have any ideas on this, maybe started about a month ago.

Thanks

Nick

December 28, 2015

I checked and it's also happening on my server, not sure if it makes a difference but I'm running the x64 version.

December 28, 2015

For secondary image types, basically everything aside from the poster and backdrop, we are now just saving the internet image url's and doing the downloading on demand when it's actually needed by an emby app.

December 28, 2015

Ok, so firstly who decided they are secondry images, as a fanart artist that is rather insulting considering the untold hours we spend making the art for EMBY and the coming EMBY THEATRE.

I am however not surprised considering the responses I got asking for cleararts to be included in the new Emby Theatre.

Why would you do this if the user can turn them on and of, lock them on the server if they don't want them to download.

For a fanarter, yes the people who actually create all the wonderful logo's and covers for the Emby it now just adds an extra process when updating movie folders.

Basically I would look in an old or new movie folder and check what art was there to decide what art we need to make to fill the set, ie; discs, cleararts etc. Now I will need to go on-line to fanart and search the actual art folder to understand if there is anything missing, just annoying.

This is the first time in 4 years that I am actually pissed about something which has happened on Emby, bad decision.

It needs to be changed back, seriously.

Still smiling a bit ;)

Nicks

December 28, 2015

We can always add a setting for this but this has to be the new default. We're under a lot of pressure from users to speed up the process of importing new content into the system.

December 28, 2015

When adding a movie it's pretty easy to check the images that were grabbed and download any missing ones. The new default makes sense to me. Plenty of clients don't use the extra images and the speed of downloading the images and metadata generates a lot of posts. Retrieving on request seems reasonable.

December 28, 2015

We can always add a setting for this but this has to be the new default. We're under a lot of pressure from users to speed up the process of importing new content into the system.

Fine with the default but would like a way to override it. Storage is cheap these days. For me, internet is cheap as well. I would rather have the images and not need them over needing them and not have them.

December 28, 2015

Fine with the default but would like a way to override it. Storage is cheap these days. For me, internet is cheap as well. I would rather have the images and not need them over needing them and not have them.

Agreed. I would also like the option to change this behavior as appropriate to the user.

There are those that have installs that will be running offline (no internet access once deployed). Saving the artwork into the media folders affords this installation option for those that do not have an always on Internet connection or none at all.

I get (and agree with) the reasons you would implement such a feature, but don't those URLs change over time?

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December 28, 2015

Hi all

When adding a movie it's pretty easy to check the images that were grabbed and download any missing ones. The new default makes sense to me. Plenty of clients don't use the extra images and the speed of downloading the images and metadata generates a lot of posts. Retrieving on request seems reasonable.

Sure it's easy to check what has not been downloaded when adding a movie, my point is more that as a fanart artist it adds another process. I am working on 10-15 movies a week both new and old and spending 20 hours a week, and like to work at speed, having to go online and check the fanart is just annoying and a waste of time.

I feel there has been an assumption that people don't want or need the art. The simple solution would be to make it an option on the server, keeps us all happy.

Thanks

Nick

December 28, 2015

Agreed. I would also like the option to change this behavior as appropriate to the user.

There are those that have installs that will be running offline (no internet access once deployed). Saving the artwork into the media folders affords this installation option for those that do not have an always on Internet connection or none at all.

I get (and agree with) the reasons you would implement such a feature, but don't those URLs change over time?

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Thanks, the option makes sense.

December 28, 2015

By the way if you want to check out my work you can see it below. I guarantee you have all got something of mine in your collection and considering the work that goes into it both by me and all the others on fanart you should be able to understand why we want it out there.

https://fanart.tv/members/nicks-mce/movie-images/

Later

Nicks

December 28, 2015

Fine with the default but would like a way to override it. Storage is cheap these days. For me, internet is cheap as well. I would rather have the images and not need them over needing them and not have them.

I agree. Instead of taking away something that's been there, make it an option to take it away for those that don't like it...

December 28, 2015

Unfortunately it's not that simple and that's why the default has changed, but yes an option can be added.

Maybe you guys could go over to other parts of the forum and defend the longer library scan and the benefits that it brings. But even that doesn't account for the people who never visit the community, never touch settings, then think it's slow and move onto something else. Blame the proliferation of mobile apps that put everything at user's fingertips, but user patience levels of waiting for anything are at all-time lows, which forces us to adapt. And yes, that means a trade-off decision was made, knowing that some would be upset, but the majority would never end up noticing as long the apps are displaying the images.

December 28, 2015

Unfortunately it's not that simple and that's why the default has changed, but yes an option can be added.

Maybe you guys could go over to other parts of the forum and defend the longer library scan and the benefits that it brings. But even that doesn't account for the people who never visit the community, never touch settings, then think it's slow and move onto something else. Blame the proliferation of mobile apps that put everything at user's fingertips, but user patience levels of waiting for anything are at all-time lows, which forces us to adapt. And yes, that means a trade-off decision was made, knowing that some would be upset, but the majority would never end up noticing as long the apps are displaying the images.

Points well taken... Never meant to imply that it was simple and I appreciate the difficulty of the decisions you need to make on where the product goes and what it does. So if it can be made an option that satisfies both sides of the issue, that works for everyone!

January 7, 2016

For secondary image types, basically everything aside from the poster and backdrop, we are now just saving the internet image url's and doing the downloading on demand when it's actually needed by an emby app.

At what point do the additional images download when accessing the content through the app? I tried this with Emby for WMC which does a rotating backdrop slideshow when viewing media and it did not get the extra backdrops for a newly imported movie. It did get a disc image, and a banner, but did not get additional backdrops. Where can I see the saved URL information? I even started another Library scan and they still did not pull down. My settings set a maximum of 10 backdrops for movies, so I know it should at least try to grab more than one.

Man. It's really gonna suck if those don't download. It's one of the main reasons why my associates and I continue to use Emby for WMC as our main theater software. For the art.

Edited January 7, 2016 by overClocked!

January 8, 2016

It has no effect on what gets downloaded, only when. What gets downloaded still depends on settings

January 8, 2016

It has no effect on what gets downloaded, only when. What gets downloaded still depends on settings

I have all items checked to be downloaded for the Movies content Type. So I expect for those types of available images selected to be downloaded when I view the content in the app. But they are not. It should download up to 10 backdrops but it's only grabbing 1. That's the problem.

Is this an issue with TMDB? Getting timeout errors like crazy.

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Edited January 8, 2016 by overClocked!

January 8, 2016

Tested on dev dropping test media Furious 7 into library with images set to 20.

Pulled 20 backdrops

January 8, 2016

Hi

On a clean install of latest emby server as of today shows with no metadata I have set emby to download 11 backdrops/fanart, but it only downloads 1.

if I select the top folder and do a refresh images it will download 1 more fanart to each folder, so i now have two extra fanarts but im not really keen on refresing 11 times.

is there something to do to fix this.

I read another post regarding this here on the forums, im sorry but i cant seem to find it again

January 8, 2016

What server version? What is your image fetcher order? I just changed for 1 image to 20 and chose Refresh-none-download missing images and got 19 more images.

January 8, 2016

What server version? What is your image fetcher order? I just changed for 1 image to 20 and chose Refresh-none-download missing images and got 19 more images.

Clean install, stable I would assume.

January 8, 2016

emby version 3.0.5785.0

Image fetcher order is tvdb, fanart, tmdb

I tried to change it to fanart first just downloaded one more fanart.

The reason i did a clean install of emby was that when adding a new show or deleting all info for a show emby would not download any images without a refresh so maybe these are related ?http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0F_0N-z5bbQSHFkdDNkREpRMVk/view?usp=sharing

Edited January 8, 2016 by KRONZO

January 8, 2016

the default order should be fine.

January 8, 2016

Actually I have the same issue, I have all the settings checked to download and backdrops at 10. I never get more than 1 and maybe 1 more in a folder. Aside from this no discs, no clearart and no banners anymore.

Bit frustrating as it all happened when it was changed to only download when needed.

When will the extra fanart download, what clasify's as "when Needed".

Maybe I am doing something wrong, but it shouldn't be that hard!!!, sometimes things are just tweeked beyond user friendly.

January 8, 2016

emby version 3.0.5785.0[/size]

Image fetcher order is tvdb, fanart, tmdb[/size]

I tried to change it to fanart first just downloaded one more fanart.[/size]

The reason i did a clean install of emby was that when adding a new show or deleting all info for a show emby would not download any images without a refresh so maybe these are related ?http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0F_0N-z5bbQSHFkdDNkREpRMVk/view?usp=sharing[/size]

Tested on stable 3.0.5785.0, beta 3.0.5802.0, and dev 3.0.5851.25344 - Refreshing media after changing backdrop number downloaded backdrops.

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