dibsta 0 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hi all My Boxsets are no longer grouped and I dont know why. When I open boxsets all I get Is all my films, non are grouped together (pic 1). Can anyone help Server Version 3.0.5572.0 Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6782 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Do you have the "Group movies in collections" option set in user preferences? "When displaying movie lists, movies belonging to a collection will be displayed as one grouped item." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibsta 0 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Hi Cbers Yes I have this option ticked Not sure what's happened they used to be grouped. Dave Edited April 5, 2015 by dibsta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5057 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) When using [boxset] it no longer groups movies in the webclient. There have been a couple threads on this and it seems this will not being supported anymore. I think they want you to use the plugin http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/15921-delayed-collection-group-display/ http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/19666-web-client-bug-group-movies-into-collections-dont-work/ Edited April 5, 2015 by FrostByte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6782 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Ah, tagged BoxSets. I was assuming Auto BoxSets was in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibsta 0 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Hi I'm not using [boxsets] I'm using collection.xml I will post some pics of my setup Dave Edited April 5, 2015 by dibsta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5057 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Putting boxset in the folder name creates a collection.xml also, it just doesn't group them in the webclient anymore. If you didn't use boxset then did you use the app or did you create the collection using the metadata manager? It should work if you checked that box which CBers mentioned then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibsta 0 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hi I used metadata manager Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibsta 0 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hi Here is a pic of my setup including collection.xml hope this helps Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hi Here is a pic of my setup including collection.xml hope this helps Dave That isn't supported anymore. You need to use the plugin or manually create your boxsets in the web client. I personally use the later. More time consuming but allows more control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardameus 220 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 In the movies tab you won't see them grouped together, but under the collections tab they are grouped together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibsta 0 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Hi Koleckai Silvestri Cheers for advice I'm doing it using Web client. Your right long winded but worth it Cheers Save Edited April 5, 2015 by dibsta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4uk 26 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Just noticed this behavior in the web client on the server (but NOT in the web client on other devices). This behavior does NOT affect MB Classic in WMC. This behavior DOES affect Emby for Android. In general, this new behavior and "structure" is problematic and extraordinarily annoying. Users like myself spent much time organizing our movies into folders, including certain folders that were [boxset], as per the MB instructions. I'd be interested in knowing the perceived benefits of rendering those structures useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Just noticed this behavior in the web client on the server (but NOT in the web client on other devices). This behavior does NOT affect MB Classic in WMC. This behavior DOES affect Emby for Android. In general, this new behavior and "structure" is problematic and extraordinarily annoying. Users like myself spent much time organizing our movies into folders, including certain folders that were [boxset], as per the MB instructions. I'd be interested in knowing the perceived benefits of rendering those structures useless. To be fair this isn't new. The web management of boxsets superseded folder-based management some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4uk 26 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 You're observation is of course perfectly fair, Deathsquirrel. But that has no impact on the peculiarities of the new way of organizing (inconsistent from device to device and client to client), nor on the much, much worse system it makes this media manager. (Nor, of course, on the pain it causes long-time users...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37214 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Using collections built with the web interface, I don't believe there is a major inconsistency from app to app (the android issue notwithstanding that will be resolved). In fact, I would say the inconsistency lies in the fact that there are multiple ways to create boxsets. And it is something we are cleaning up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 When using the current methodfor boxset management what inconsistencies are there? There are issues for users of the old method but the current one works fine in my experience. As for pain, it's a VERY short process, particularly with the autoboxset plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Using collections built with the web interface, I don't believe there is a major inconsistency from app to app (the android issue notwithstanding that will be resolved). In fact, I would say the inconsistency lies in the fact that there are multiple ways to create boxsets. And it is something we are cleaning up. Are y'all planning to remove support for folder-based plugins or instead ßupporting and testing both? I'm happy either way but if something wont be tested I'm a firm believer in removing it. Cant count the number of times I've politely shouted that at dev teams at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardameus 220 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I've had no issues still using the folder based [boxset] collections. I prefer grouping my collections together in my file system anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37214 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 no, we're not removing support for [boxset]...we're just not adding new features to them. so i think that's where a lot of the confusion is. we mention new features for collections and people using the old styles are expecting them to be supported (which i can understand). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardameus 220 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 That I get. For me, as long as emby collects my collection metadata, and groups them into collections somewhere, I'm happy. I also like having all my metadata on my media drives with the video files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4uk 26 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I've done some of the work now to eliminate my [boxset] folder designations and groupings. I installed Auto Box Sets, and will try it. But I read from dev Luke here, and from some others, that there may be differing behavior within clients based on whether the Collections/Boxsets are created using the plugin or using the web interface. If that is the case, I'd consider that inconsistency a problem. The metadata (or other info) created by the plugin ought to match the formatting and usage-by-clients of that created within the web interface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I've done some of the work now to eliminate my [boxset] folder designations and groupings. I installed Auto Box Sets, and will try it. But I read from dev Luke here, and from some others, that there may be differing behavior within clients based on whether the Collections/Boxsets are created using the plugin or using the web interface. If that is the case, I'd consider that inconsistency a problem. The metadata (or other info) created by the plugin ought to match the formatting and usage-by-clients of that created within the web interface. I assume any such differences would be treated as a bug. As I understand it the plugin is just supposed to automate the process. I prefer to manage my boxsets by hand since tmdb and I have differences of opinion on what should be a boxset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MndWrp 99 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) I prefer to manage my boxsets by hand since tmdb and I have differences of opinion on what should be a boxset. Yesssssss! Edited April 11, 2015 by MndWrp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14955 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 But I read from dev Luke here, and from some others, that there may be differing behavior within clients based on whether the Collections/Boxsets are created using the plugin or using the web interface. There aren't any that I'm aware of. The plug-in uses the exact same methods as the web client. If you find some, please report them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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