M3UTuner 1.0.32

[warrentc3 45]

Curious about what all changed in this plugin update.  I am seeing a big difference in connectivity between my manicured source and emby… as in concurrency appears to be handled internally by emby.  Please advise. 

[warrentc3 45]

And how can I roll back to the version that doesn’t force “tuner sharing” on me.

Not sure how this became a GA feature, especially one that the admin cannot control. 

I am completely fine with 5 live all watching the same channel making 5 connections.  That’s exactly why i have what i have in front of emby. 

Now I get all kinds of stutter and stream restarts on clients any time there’s concurrency. 

[warrentc3 45]

And I cannot roll back to previous versions because it autoupdates out of my control....

I've been getting the business all morning about the parade and both sets of parents having stream stutter.... but I've been observing this for weeks....

 

Maybe tuner sharing works fine for MPEGTS sources…. but it’s absolutely not prime time ready for HLS sources.  

Why can I not control my own server?

Edited November 28, 2024 by warrentc3

[warrentc3 45]

Zero chance that the only code change was around “tagging per source”

[Luke 38827]

23 minutes ago, warrentc3 said:

And I cannot roll back to previous versions because it autoupdates out of my control....

I've been getting the business all morning about the parade and both sets of parents having stream stutter.... but I've been observing this for weeks....

 

Maybe tuner sharing works fine for MPEGTS sources…. but it’s absolutely not prime time ready for HLS sources.  

Why can I not control my own server?

 

Hi there, let's look at an example. Please attach the information requested in how to report a media playback issue. Thanks!

 

[warrentc3 45]

@Lukei start playback on two different devices for the same channel… only one connection is made to my hls-proxy.

that’s pretty cut and dry.

play politics if you like, but there’s a significant undocumented behavior change that’s negatively impacted my performance that emby removed the capacity to control. 

[RobDenny 8]

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Edited November 29, 2024 by RobDenny

[Carlo 4478]

On 11/28/2024 at 9:54 AM, warrentc3 said:

Curious about what all changed in this plugin update.  I am seeing a big difference in connectivity between my manicured source and emby… as in concurrency appears to be handled internally by emby.  Please advise. 

On 11/28/2024 at 10:15 AM, warrentc3 said:

And how can I roll back to the version that doesn’t force “tuner sharing” on me.

Not sure how this became a GA feature, especially one that the admin cannot control. 

I am completely fine with 5 live all watching the same channel making 5 connections.  That’s exactly why i have what i have in front of emby. 

Now I get all kinds of stutter and stream restarts on clients any time there’s concurrency. 

On 11/28/2024 at 11:16 AM, warrentc3 said:

@Lukei start playback on two different devices for the same channel… only one connection is made to my hls-proxy.

that’s pretty cut and dry.

play politics if you like, but there’s a significant undocumented behavior change that’s negatively impacted my performance that emby removed the capacity to control. 

Yes, this is how Emby works in its core and has nothing to do with the m3utuner plugin which is only used to import the channel info.

If you have something else going on it's a coincidence.  Please provide the info Luke asked for so we can take a look at it and try to help you resolve this.

Carlo

[warrentc3 45]

12 minutes ago, Carlo said:

Yes, this is how Emby works in its core and has nothing to do with the m3utuner plugin which is only used to import the channel info.

If you have something else going on it's a coincidence.  Please provide the info Luke asked for so we can take a look at it and try to help you resolve this.

Carlo

There was a connection to source made for every individual active live tv channel viewer as prescribed, even after upgrading to emby server 4.8.10… and before m3u plugin 1.0.32 release.

If ‘tuner sharing’ is “core”, when did it become core?  Because prior to this month, that’s behavior I never observed in the years of me using Emby. 

 

Also, it’s pretty difficult to reproduce the behavior since Emby users no longer have the luxury of controlling which version of a plugin is installed on their own server. 

Edited November 30, 2024 by warrentc3

[Luke 38827]

On 11/28/2024 at 10:15 AM, warrentc3 said:

 

Now I get all kinds of stutter and stream restarts on clients any time there’s concurrency. 

Hi, are you saying you think this is due to the added disk I/O?

[warrentc3 45]

7 minutes ago, Luke said:

Hi, are you saying you think this is due to the added disk I/O?

if you want to workshop tuner sharing, happy to help…. my emby lxc has a 2tb pciex4 nvme wholly dedicated to it for cache / transcode. 

it’s not a matter of metal. 

tuner sharing has magically appeared, in GA.  my setup is finely tuned to cater to the absence of this functionality in emby. 

[Luke 38827]

2 hours ago, warrentc3 said:

if you want to workshop tuner sharing, happy to help…. my emby lxc has a 2tb pciex4 nvme wholly dedicated to it for cache / transcode. 

it’s not a matter of metal. 

tuner sharing has magically appeared, in GA.  my setup is finely tuned to cater to the absence of this functionality in emby. 

It's not a new thing though as the server has been doing it for years.

[warrentc3 45]

4 minutes ago, Luke said:

It's not a new thing though as the server has been doing it for years.

Then i’m perplexed, as that’s not the behavior i’ve ever had. 

[Carlo 4478]

@warrentc3Hi,

Out of curiosity, what clients are you normally using when you observed the separatee streams being used?

Do you happen to have any server logs we could take a look at when it was opening different streams?

Carlo

[warrentc3 45]

2 hours ago, Carlo said:

@warrentc3Hi,

Out of curiosity, what clients are you normally using when you observed the separatee streams being used?

Do you happen to have any server logs we could take a look at when it was opening different streams?

Carlo

I would love to give up logs from the time period where this occurred, however log retention is not a user controllable setting and the backup plugin does not backup logs.  even though txt files are highly compressable.