RFE - Missing Episodes TBA

[DarkStar1977 82]

Hi, I would like that the missing episodes are improved and stop considering TBA episodes as missing.

This is very common in Anime shows as you can see below:

If an episode is TBA is not missing, it has not yet been released.

This is as well creating false data of missing episodes on Statistics plugin @hackthis02

[Happy2Play 9142]

At the same time that is information that TVDB is providing.  As it returns everything list for the Show.

But I guess not showing items with no air date should be possible.

@GrimReapercan this be move to FR.

 

 

[Neminem 698]

Its not a FR I think it's a bug

 

[Neminem 698]

They should not show as missing if there is no air date.

No airdate should be disregarded.

No airdate is when nobody knows when it's going to be aired, or released. 

[Happy2Play 9142]

Questionable as it is how TVDB api works so the dev would have code around what TVDB is providing.  As Emby has alway gotten complete Series in one take.

[GrimReaper 3796]

6 hours ago, DarkStar1977 said:

If an episode is TBA is not missing, it has not yet been released.

That is actually incorrect, number of recently released/aired episodes either have TBA title (or other relevant data missing) or updated Title (or other data) hasn't been propagated yet to the API/TVDB cache updated. That's the primary reason Emby core periodic metadata refresh option or community plugins like this one exist:

Same goes for Release/Air Date, though it can be somewhat more accurate metric. Though some buffer should be allowed there, no aired/released date doesn't mean not aired/released.

12 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

@GrimReapercan this be move to FR.

Yeah.

Edited April 8, 2024 by GrimReaper

[Happy2Play 9142]

3 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

That is actually incorrect, number of recently released/aired episodes either have TBA title (or other relevant data missing) or updated Title (or other data) hasn't been propagated yet to the API/TVDB cache updated.

Catch 22 as that is incorrect also as this technically is Future/Upcoming unpropagated data as it is unknown.

Edited April 8, 2024 by Happy2Play

[GrimReaper 3796]

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

Catch 22 as that is incorrect also as this technically if Future/Upcoming unpropagated data as it is unknown.

I honestly did not understand what are you saying there.

[Happy2Play 9142]

Just now, GrimReaper said:

I honestly did not understand what are you saying there.

Well TBA on something that has aired would apply to what you posted TBA here is unknown title and unknown when it will air ie Future.Upcoming and technically not Missing so @Lukewould have to filter all the returned data and ensure no airdate does not show in Mising and ignore completely or only show in Upcoming.

[Neminem 698]

Ok Evil - Unknown - Season 4 - TheTVDB.com

Evil season 4 has no air date yet.

With no air date they should be under upcoming only.

 

[GrimReaper 3796]

Just now, Happy2Play said:

Well TBA on something that has aired would apply to what you posted TBA here is unknown title and unknown when it will air ie Future.Upcoming and technically not Missing so @Lukewould have to filter all the returned data and ensure no airdate does not show in Mising and ignore completely or only show in Upcoming.

That is exactly what I said, referring to and quoting:

7 hours ago, DarkStar1977 said:

If an episode is TBA is not missing, it has not yet been released.

No, it doesn't mean only that and TBA title cannot be the only metric. Aired/Released date somewhat can (although it also isn't always exclusive) with some buffer time added.

[Happy2Play 9142]

I guess in the end they will probably be ignored with no air date as they will not fail into any query data parameters.  As they are not missing and are not upcoming as there is no air date.  But this is totally up to the dev on how they want to handle this as it is what the api returns.

[GrimReaper 3796]

Yep, between the two it is certainly lesser evil to exclude items with no air dates returned - cases where that would actually impact released episodes should be negligible (I stumble upon 5-6-10 such episodes a month, more-or-less, mostly on some obscure Chinese series).

[ebr 15436]

I would think the safest bet would be to consider a null air date as future.

[Neminem 698]

Thank you, that's what I have been saying