Emby creating extra artists and misidentifying artists.

[Bigmack3000 84]

Hey, something odd is happening with some music artists in Emby.  Here's one Example:

You'll see that The Album artist is "Anderson .Paak".  Some tracks have a second artist on them, but Emby is renaming all of then as "Anderson .Paak".  If we click the first song, for example, "The Chase":

 

That picture is of the right artist, Kadhja Bonet.  But Emby is giving the name of the whole album artist.  If you click the metadata:

Every one of those links are correct and go to Kadhja Bonet.  Any ideas why is this happening? 

I've attached logs, and that one song if anyone wants to look at the metadata for it.

01 The Chase feat. Kadhja Bonet.aiff embyserver.txt ffmpeg-transcode-9ce25f60-2147-4f7e-a5b9-332f865ed509_1.txt

[Happy2Play 8296]

Have not actually tested but you have Artist "Anderson .Paak" with MBZArtistid for Kadhja Bonet

[Happy2Play 8296]

Retagged and delimited corrected the issue.  "feat." are automatically split in Emby.

[Bigmack3000 84]

So how does that compare to this one, which does work properly:

and when you click Michael McDonald:

Song file attached.

 

I like putting "feat." in the song label instead of the artist, because it keeps the "Artist" section cleaner.

Is there a way for Emby to read "feat" in a song title?

[Happy2Play 8296]

@Bigmack3000 That on drops Artist and uses Artists. Or should say Artists supersedes Artist.

Edited December 23, 2022 by Happy2Play
clarify

[Bigmack3000 84]

So if it uses "Artists" then Emby will ignore the artistID for secondary artists?  and If it uses "Artist" it forced the artistid on all artists?  Is this correct?

[Happy2Play 8296]

Just now, Bigmack3000 said:

So if it uses "Artists" then Emby will ignore the artistID for secondary artists?

No Emby reads the "/" or ";" delimited ids provider 3 Artists in last example as shown on the track.

 

1 minute ago, Bigmack3000 said:

and If it uses "Artist" it forced the artistid on all artists?

If only Artist then artistid must match or you are liking provider info to wrong person.

But same can be accomplished in Artist field delimiting as Artists field or ever three individual Artist files.  Really depends on your tagger on how it provides the info.

 

But from my edit above Artists will supersede Artist field if present.

Where your first example mis-matched Artist and artistID linking.

 

[Bigmack3000 84]

Why won't this one show up correctly?  both artist id numbers are in the metadata. I added them with picard.  but it still shows up like this:

[Bigmack3000 84]

This one does show up correctly. But I don't see what the difference is.

[Happy2Play 8296]

14 minutes ago, Bigmack3000 said:

Why won't this one show up correctly?  both artist id numbers are in the metadata. I added them with picard.  but it still shows up like this:

Did you look at it via ffrprobe?  You will see it does not see what Picard/MP3Tag sees

Yes MBZAid sees 2 but there is only one Artist or Artists via ffrprobe.

C:\Users\Media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\system>ffprobe -i "C:\Users\Media\Downloads\02Bubblin(Remix)Feat.BustaRhymesVR.m4a"
ffprobe version 5.1-emby_2022_11_29 Copyright (c) 2007-2022 the FFmpeg developers and softworkz for Emby LLC
  built with gcc 12.2.0 (Rev4, Built by MSYS2 project)
[mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 000001b61fd6ae40] stream 0, timescale not set
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'C:\Users\Media\Downloads\02Bubblin(Remix)Feat.BustaRhymesVR.m4a':
  Metadata:
    major_brand     : M4A
    minor_version   : 0
    compatible_brands: M4A mp42isom
    creation_time   : 2019-07-23T21:29:00.000000Z
    title           : Bubblin (Remix) Feat. Busta Rhymes {VR}
    artist          : Anderson .Paak
    album           : Bubblin 7" {VR}
    genre           : Hip Hop/Rap
    track           : 2/2
    date            : 2019
    compilation     : 0
    gapless_playback: 0
    encoder         : iTunes 12.8.2.3
    ~length         : 3:34
    ARTISTS         : Anderson .Paak
    Acoustid Id     : 4e7d6914-b88a-4311-abaa-e4fed90df7cc
    MusicBrainz Artist Id: d02dd67e-f655-4600-bc47-f789f59e7367/10a9ff92-9637-4498-afea-7044b2ab0dc0
    iTunNORM        :  0000023B 000002B3 0000132F 0000129C 00007C2C 00007C2C 00003C61 00003B36 00028670 00009C02
    Encoding Params : vers
    iTunSMPB        :  00000000 00000840 000003C0 00000000008FC000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
  Duration: 00:03:33.69, start: 0.047889, bitrate: 278 kb/s
  Stream #0:0[0x1](und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 272 kb/s, Start-Time 0.048s (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2019-07-23T21:29:00.000000Z
      vendor_id       : [0][0][0][0]
  Stream #0:1[0x0]: Video: mjpeg (Progressive), yuvj444p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 599x600 [SAR 1:1 DAR 599:600], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, Start-Time 0.048s (attached pic)

Potentially needs all tags removed and retagged but if it was rerun thru Picard it is missing a log to tags.

[Bigmack3000 84]

Hmm. when i put it in picard, it shows both under artits:

 

This release is not in mbz. So i had to add those tags myself.

[Bigmack3000 84]

Do you see the same tags missing for these two in ffprobe?  This release was on mbz, but the featured artists don't show up.  

[Happy2Play 8296]

@Bigmack3000 appears to be broken links.

[Bigmack3000 84]

did this work?

odd. I dont know why these won't load on here.

Edited January 1, 2023 by Bigmack3000

[Bigmack3000 84]

i compressed them into a zip. maybe this will work?  They are larger than the other music files, but under the limit for attachments.

Archive.zip

[Happy2Play 8296]

@Lukemay have to comment as having multiple Artists fields only reads one.

Where Picard shows them together

ffprobe only reads one not both

    artist          : Anderson .Paak

    ARTISTS         : Anderson .Paak

Fix was retagging Artists with both in one tag in MP3Tag.  Or full run through Picard.

Same for the additional files Dev will need to comment on multiple Artists fields as FFPROBE does not appear to read all, merging them works.

Merged Artists so it looks like Composer

 

Since these are M4A files it could be the something with format itself as each container has different restictions/requirements.

 

 

[Bigmack3000 84]

Do you find MP3Tag to be better than picard overall?

[Happy2Play 8296]

8 minutes ago, Bigmack3000 said:

Do you find MP3Tag to be better than picard overall?

It shows things a little different but easier to make edits.  Can't remember if it was a plugin/script or not but does MBZ queries also.  But is my primary go to.

Edited January 1, 2023 by Happy2Play

[Bigmack3000 84]

Ah, appears to not be free for mac.  

[Happy2Play 8296]

Looks like Picard makes a list vs one line.

Manual edit

[Bigmack3000 84]

So that manual edit in picard fixes the problem?

[Bigmack3000 84]

Interesting, that did fix it.  But there still must be something different with those files because I have plenty of other songs that list all the artists separately, and they show up in emby properly.

[Luke 37095]

2 hours ago, Happy2Play said:

@Lukemay have to comment as having multiple Artists fields only reads one.

Where Picard shows them together

ffprobe only reads one not both

    artist          : Anderson .Paak

    ARTISTS         : Anderson .Paak

Fix was retagging Artists with both in one tag in MP3Tag.  Or full run through Picard.

Same for the additional files Dev will need to comment on multiple Artists fields as FFPROBE does not appear to read all, merging them works.

Merged Artists so it looks like Composer

 

Since these are M4A files it could be the something with format itself as each container has different restictions/requirements.

 

 

Does that occur with other containers as well?

[Bigmack3000 84]

I'll keep a look out as a go through each album.  but I think both of those examples today were m4a

[Bigmack3000 84]

Just came across another and it was also m4a