ivoidwarranties 15 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) I updated to the latest Android app and the latest version of Media Browser server. Videos that used to direct stream on the Android app are now being transcoded. I tried about 20 of the 300+ videos I have and all of them were transcoded... even though they were able to direct stream previously. I changed the local playback bitrate to the highest setting (21 Mb/s) and it did not help. Am I missing a setting or what can I do to not make it transcode the files? Attached is a screen shot of the media info of one of my file. Edited October 11, 2014 by ivoidwarranties 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halphpint 4 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Im having the same issue....wish there was a direct play option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 14 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 According to http://mediabrowser.tv/community/index.php?/topic/11297-transcoding-streamcopy-direct-play-direct-stream-help/ , only when the source video is mp4 / h264 - baseline / aac it will be direct played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoidwarranties 15 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) All my videos (mp4 / h264 / aac / unknown profile) were capable of direct play prior to the latest update. Edited October 11, 2014 by ivoidwarranties 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37057 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Please post a specific example. Please see: http://mediabrowser.tv/community/index.php?/topic/790-how-to-report-a-problem/ All videos is unfortunately not very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoidwarranties 15 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Updated original post with screen shot... all my videos are in that format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37057 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 According to android documentation high profile is not officially supported. Really the old version is what was not working correctly. The new version will support more devices. What is probably needed is an option to allow high profile content to direct stream. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoidwarranties 15 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 I vaguely remember another post where Redshirt had mentioned that it was a bug in the old version of the app..... and I remember asking if he could make it an option to direct stream instead of transcode. @@Redshirt... can you provide an option to allow high profile content to direct stream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade005 172 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Please post a specific example. Please see: http://mediabrowser.tv/community/index.php?/topic/790-how-to-report-a-problem/ All videos is unfortunately not very helpful. Redshirt, Opened the following file in Android client (Version 2.0.85) and it is showing as being transcoded in the Android player. A transcoding log was also created for this session. Should this media Direct Play in the Android App? Transcoding Log: http://paste2.org/ZkEWaf9D Media Info Video CodecH264ProfileMain Level22 Resolution720x406 Aspect ratio16:9 AnamorphicNo InterlacedNo Framerate23.97619 Bitrate927 kbps Bit depth8 bit Pixel formatyuv420p Ref frames4 Audio LanguageundCodecAAC Layoutstereo Bitrate124 kbps Sample rate48000 khz DefaultYes Containermp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshirt 1487 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Android client version prior to 2.0.x would allow H264 to direct stream regardless of the profile assuming all criteria were met. (resolution, bitrate, etc). The current version follows the official Android supported media formats to the letter. Increasing compatibility at the expense of the devices that could properly handle H264 high/main profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoidwarranties 15 Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Can there be an advanced option that will allow the app to direct stream h264 high/main profiles? An option a user would have to manually check / turn on? Edited October 18, 2014 by ivoidwarranties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtB45 2 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 The old version will also direct play (stream copy) h264 video in a mkv container while transcoding the audio when needed. I'd like to keep that feature. Video transcoding when all thatch needed is audio transcoding is undesirable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droolingmonkey 2 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Same goes for me - the client has become unusable as a viewer due to transcoding of content that played perfectly in the previous version of the client. Please provide an option to stream as we could before, or maybe provide a means of reversing the update or dloading the previous version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toys7505 8 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Have you tried turning off the HLS option under settings? Once i did that, I was able to play any movie without any hiccup........ Toys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWatson 62 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) You guys are aware that google (not Redshirt) broke hls in android 4.4.3. It is something beyond his control. https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=72875 and https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=70877 Edited October 18, 2014 by DrWatson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshirt 1487 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) @@Luke Post #17 and #23 from the first link above may be worth investigating. If slight alterations to the playlist metadata can resolve HLS playback stuttering I'll be tickled pink. Edited October 18, 2014 by Redshirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade005 172 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Have you tried turning off the HLS option under settings? Once i did that, I was able to play any movie without any hiccup........ Toys Toys, Playing a source and direct streaming it are two different things. Turning off HLS does provide for a smooth playback, but my experience has been that everything is transcoding now, which places an unnecessary burden on the MB Server. I posted in this thread a profile of a video that according to Redshirt should be able to play without transcoding. But, that is not the case. It would be nice if there was a configurable option in upcoming releases that would allow for direct streaming if you have a capable device, despite the restrictions that Google seems to want to place on all of us for the sake of 'compatibility'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toys7505 8 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Toys, Playing a source and direct streaming it are two different things. Turning off HLS does provide for a smooth playback, but my experience has been that everything is transcoding now, which places an unnecessary burden on the MB Server. I posted in this thread a profile of a video that according to Redshirt should be able to play without transcoding. But, that is not the case. It would be nice if there was a configurable option in upcoming releases that would allow for direct streaming if you have a capable device, despite the restrictions that Google seems to want to place on all of us for the sake of 'compatibility'. Yes, I too as well am having everything transcoded during playback. I have only recently started using MB Server and this stuff is still relatively new to me. I would be happy as well if I could direct stream vs. transcode as my test rig CPU is almost "pegged" at 100% everytime. Toys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halphpint 4 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Yes, I too as well am having everything transcoded during playback. I have only recently started using MB Server and this stuff is still relatively new to me. I would be happy as well if I could direct stream vs. transcode as my test rig CPU is almost "pegged" at 100% everytime. Toys I agree...even though I have pretty beefy i7 running server and transcoding is done in about 30 mins on larger HD movies (4 gigs or more in .mkv container) they still stutter during play back ever few seconds. Very distracting and has caused me to use the external player option as a result. Ironically when I do this it uses MX player and direct plays. Just seems silly not being able to direct play when my server is 15 feet from my android box that's running the client. So tired of having to sacrifice options for the sake of lower end P.O.S. android devices. If need be, make it like a PC...either you hit the requirements to use it or you don't. If you don't, pony up for a flagship phone/device...honestly not that expensive. Edited October 19, 2014 by halphpint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37057 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 We're working on it guys, not to worry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoidwarranties 15 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 I wonder how many Media Browser users have video in h264 base profiles.... I know the intentions were good (making it compatible with more devices).... but in doing so, did it "break" it for a good number of users that actually use Media Browser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37057 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Rule number one of any software application is you have to get it to work before you can optimize. But I thought I just covered the situation by letting you know we will be resolving it in a way that will work for everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade005 172 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Rule number one of any software application is you have to get it to work before you can optimize. But I thought I just covered the situation by letting you know we will be resolving it in a way that will work for everyone. Thanks Luke and Redshirt. You guys are great. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halphpint 4 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I wonder how many Media Browser users have video in h264 base profiles.... I know the intentions were good (making it compatible with more devices).... but in doing so, did it "break" it for a good number of users that actually use Media Browser? Vast majority of my files are h264...mostly tv shows. Thrilled to hear that this is being worked on as I love the app..literally bought an. Android box just to use it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoidwarranties 15 Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Rule number one of any software application is you have to get it to work before you can optimize. But I thought I just covered the situation by letting you know we will be resolving it in a way that will work for everyone. Sorry... I was on Tapatalk on my phone... was in the middle of posting it, something came up between the time I wrote my post and the time i actually posted it. Didn't see your post. Thanks for addressing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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