Top Picks support thread

[Err0r0815 6]

it is set to mixed conten and i run the tests 100 times

[Err0r0815 6]

so, what does the log say?

 

and my other 2 questions wont be answered? with the loglevel and the complete uninstall?

 

are u even trying to help?

[chef 3808]

Okay,

 

After getting reacquainted with the code base, and running tasks on my server, the plugin initially begins my list of Top Pick Items with 5 items.

There are several reasons in the code that this is happening.

This is a fresh install.

The Plugin utilizes watched states from across the entire user base on the server from the last 10 days.

This means that users would have to have an item placed in  'played' state on their account, in the last 10 days.

The more you and your user base watch items, the more those items have the possibility to be placed in selection row of Top Picks.

 

Next, we look at when the item was added to the library. 

If the item was recently added, then it gets priority in the list. this is because the item is most likely watched by only a few of the server users and should be placed prominently in the list for other to choose.

 

Finally, we look at overall critic rating of the items that were selected. Items with higher critic ratings will all appear in a more prominent spot in the top pick list.

 

So just to reiterate, the more you user base watches, the more gets selected. Critic rating and watch status help sort the list.

 

Of course, this can also be edited and customized by you (the server admin) at any time in the plugin configuration page.

There you are able to add, remove, and change the position of media items in the list.

 

Please let me know if you have other questions. I'm eager to help you get the ball rolling here and see some success with the plugin.

 

Edited July 29, 2024 by chef

[chef 3808]

I've found room for improvement in the code. It may help fill the entire list initially when only one type of media is selected to be shown in the top pick library.

 

I'll work on this today, and see what comes of it.

[chef 3808]

In order to completely remove the plugin, go to the plugin page, uninstall it.

Go to the library page, and remove the Top picks library. 

You'll be good to go. 

 

[Err0r0815 6]

1 minute ago, chef said:

In order to completely remove the plugin, go to the plugin page, uninstall it.

Go to the library page, and remove the Top picks library. 

You'll be good to go. 

 

okay, this + delete the config file i have done in the last days maybe 1 million times

+ running the two tasks of the plugin

 

20 minutes ago, chef said:

Okay,

 

After getting reacquainted with the code base, and running tasks on my server, the plugin initially begins my list of Top Pick Items with 5 items.

There are several reasons in the code that this is happening.

This is a fresh install.

The Plugin utilizes watched states from across the entire user base on the server from the last 10 days.

This means that users would have to have an item placed in  'played' state on their account, in the last 10 days.

The more you and your user base watch items, the more those items have the possibility to be placed in selection row of Top Picks.

 

Next, we look at when the item was added to the library. 

If the item was recently added, then it gets priority in the list. this is because the item is most likely watched by only a few of the server users and should be placed prominently in the list for other to choose.

 

Finally, we look at overall critic rating of the items that were selected. Items with higher critic ratings will all appear in a more prominent spot in the top pick list.

 

So just to reiterate, the more you user base watches, the more gets selected. Critic rating and watch status help sort the list.

 

Of course, this can also be edited and customized by you (the server admin) at any time in the plugin configuration page.

There you are able to add, remove, and change the position of media items in the list.

 

Please let me know if you have other questions. I'm eager to help you get the ball rolling here and see some success with the plugin.

 

the only question is, what have i to do, that the plugin will work?

 

if i Calculate user engagement and Update Top Picks and get no new suggestions, then there is somethin wrong in the logic in the plugin. 

 

 

[chef 3808]

1 minute ago, Err0r0815 said:

 

if i Calculate user engagement and Update Top Picks and get no new suggestions, then there is somethin wrong in the logic in the plugin. 

 

 

No, the user engagement task will continue to return the same items repeatedly because it is a snap shot of the current state of the top picks at this moment.

In a couple days, when more of your users have watched more items, and more items have been added/removed (changed) to the libraries, the list will change.

 

It won't change just because you ran it again. The task calculation is not random. It is calculated based on the state of the server at this moment, right now. 

 

[chef 3808]

Should I add a random component to it? 

That is more of a random recommendation thing, but I could add functionality to randomly generate a list.

[Err0r0815 6]

if i dont watch 10 days a movie, i will get no new suggestions?

i have maybe 400 watched movies. why the heck does it dont use these?

why are only shown watched movies in the top picks? it should be not even ONE shown with the state "watched"

 

my goal is, that the plugin looks, what i have watched (all the time) and then gives me NEW suggestions out of my lybary with movies, that are like "the others", are no trash and that i might like. with NO watched in there. but this is not the way this works here?

[Err0r0815 6]

3 minutes ago, chef said:

Should I add a random component to it? 

That is more of a random recommendation thing, but I could add functionality to randomly generate a list.

 

look, im not ur master or something.

 

i thought i found a plugin, thas saves me 45 min to find a movie in my libary, that i could watch

this describes it:

3 minutes ago, Err0r0815 said:

my goal is, that the plugin looks, what i have watched (all the time) and then gives me NEW suggestions out of my lybary with movies, that are like "the others", are no trash and that i might like. with NO watched in there. but this is not the way this works here?

and also, if i dont watch 20 movies and will watch one. if there is no movie i like, is there a button to shuffle and get NEW suggestions?

Edited July 29, 2024 by Err0r0815

[chef 3808]

Just now, Err0r0815 said:

if i dont watch 10 days a movie, i will get no new suggestions?

i have maybe 400 watched movies. why the heck does it dont use these?

why are only shown watched movies in the top picks? it should be not even ONE shown with the state "watched"

 

my goal is, that the plugin looks, what i have watched (all the time) and then gives me NEW suggestions out of my lybary with movies, that are like "the others", are no trash and that i might like. with NO watched in there. but this is not the way this works here?

It isn't just watched states.

But, watch states is where Top picks excels when you have more then one user.

It chooses watched state for all users, and puts them in a list of items for the other users to select a watch also. 

If your user watches Deadpool, then it will probably show up in the list, then you watch it too, and magically you now have something to talk about around the water cooler at work on Monday. LOL.

[Err0r0815 6]

3 minutes ago, chef said:

It isn't just watched states.

But, watch states is where Top picks excels when you have more then one user.

It chooses watched state for all users, and puts them in a list of items for the other users to select a watch also. 

If your user watches Deadpool, then it will probably show up in the list, then you watch it too, and magically you now have something to talk about around the water cooler at work on Monday. LOL.

Then the name "top picks" is missleading

who cares about the other users?

 

am i seeing this right, that the plugin never would be like i described?

[chef 3808]

12 minutes ago, Err0r0815 said:

Then the name "top picks" is missleading

who cares about the other users?

 

am i seeing this right, that the plugin never would be like i described?

Alright, I can see that our conversation is going to consistently end up with you unhappy, and being argumentative.

But the plugin is NOT misleading at all.

 

I'm pretty sure I've explained how the backend of the USER ENGAGEMENT is calculated.

It is called user engagement, and that is EXACTLY what it does. It calculates how the USERS  have ENGAGED with items in the server.

You can also choose your own top picks by the way. 

There is more then one way to use the plugin.

I've been polite, and kept my cool for long enough. I've attempted to help you, I've offered you your money back.

I think we are done here.

Pm me your email for the refund.

Anyone else who has been follow this thread will have to agree the conversation is over.

Thanks for trying it out, sorry it wasn't what you expected. 

 

[Err0r0815 6]

U should name it „multi user top picks“

[chef 3808]

I moderate this thread. The comments from Err0r have been tolerated long enough.

Thanks for posting.

Edited July 29, 2024 by chef

[Bottles51 70]

@chefI had noticed my top picks was only generating 2 spots. So i proceeded to run a scan. After multiple scans and same results I uninstalled the app and deleted the library and all top pick files. I then reinstalled and now Top picks generates nothing and library item no longer shows on homepage. There is a library on my library settings page. I will pm you my log which will be after fresh install.

[chef 3808]

I have a something written that will ensure a complete list of items will be created.

In the meantime, can you fill the rest of the list with items manually, and make sure to have overwrite user options.

This will eventually create new items as users watch them.

 

[Bottles51 70]

I don't use the user engagement settings. I fill in my own using imdb most popular, Movies only

[chef 3808]

1 minute ago, Bottles51 said:

I don't use the user engagement settings. I fill in my own using imdb most popular, Movies only

Oh, so you make the list, but only two are being created?

Can I see a full log from when you ran the refresh task?

There is going to be an error there. Something is stopping the task from finishing I suspect.

Might be a piece of missing metadata.

[Bottles51 70]

Right now i have none being created. I pm you a log right after a fresh install. I do have the top pics flag on my manual entry's of the original movie posters.

[chef 3808]

14 minutes ago, Bottles51 said:

Right now i have none being created. I pm you a log right after a fresh install. I do have the top pics flag on my manual entry's of the original movie posters.

Cool. That helps me know where to look. 

I'll look asap.

[Bottles51 70]

@chef, I believe i figured out the bug. So in the movie Bad Boys Ride Or Die. The Logo artwork was showing on the movie detail page, but when i clicked to edit artwork it was blank in the logo section. This was the first Logo that Emby chose automatically.  So I replaced this with another Logo, and scanned. All went well. But one other bug I want to let you know of is, even when the option for enable first in library is ticked, I still had to go to each user profile and drag from last to first. Also another quality of life addition if you may, could we add a scroll bar when we are adding movies manually or possibly a search?

[Bottles51 70]

@chef, Also forgot to mention that I do store my images and nfo's with the video files. Hope this information helps.

Edited August 3, 2024 by Bottles51

[AgreeableZeus 0]

On 7/29/2024 at 8:11 AM, chef said:

Should I add a random component to it? 

That is more of a random recommendation thing, but I could add functionality to randomly generate a list.

 

@chefWould it be possible to use the trakt API filtered for media on the server to provide a top picks or trending list? I think this could be a very neat feature.

[chef 3808]

4 hours ago, AgreeableZeus said:

@chefWould it be possible to use the trakt API filtered for media on the server to provide a top picks or trending list? I think this could be a very neat feature.

I'll take a look.

That was the requested before.

I don't know to much about trakt.